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Why do Republicans claim "its the law" when poor people are taking it in the shorts but when Trump and his team are lying to Congress, meeting with Russians, and taking profits from foreign powers it is just the way of the world?


What poor people are taking it in the shorts???

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And....while we have the child in governmental custody, the government is responsoble for the child’s welfare. It provides health care, food, shelter, education. 100%.  Of something goes wrong, it’s the government’s fault. 

It is the responsibility of the medical professionals to do all they can but requiring miracles is going a bit far. Those kids were killed by the actions of the parent(s).


That’s an opinion. Not a fact.

 

Well, they were deathly ill when they crossed the border, they were brought by their parent(s). Those are facts. I have seen no facts indicating that the medical professionals did anything wrong.


 

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Why do Republicans claim "its the law" when poor people are taking it in the shorts but when Trump and his team are lying to Congress, meeting with Russians, and taking profits from foreign powers it is just the way of the world?

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I just do not understand why the RWNJs are so nuts because undocumented/illegal residents finally have a chance to get their kid's healthcare.  Weren't the two child deaths in CBP detention enough?  How many human sacrifices do you guys want?


Here in America, when parents put their children into a very dangerous situation, law enforcement arrests them for Child Endangerment.  Then our legal system prosecute those parents and if convicted the children are removed from the parents and placed in the custody of the state.  We are a nation of laws that govern our citizens.  Anyone that attempts to enter our country illegally are considered criminals.  Why is this concept beyond your comprehension?

 

 

 

 


And....while we have the child in governmental custody, the government is responsoble for the child’s welfare. It provides health care, food, shelter, education. 100%.  Of something goes wrong, it’s the government’s fault. 


It's the law...

 

 


Exactly. It’s the law that the government is responsible.

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@Richva wrote:

I just do not understand why the RWNJs are so nuts because undocumented/illegal residents finally have a chance to get their kid's healthcare.  Weren't the two child deaths in CBP detention enough?  How many human sacrifices do you guys want?


Here in America, when parents put their children into a very dangerous situation, law enforcement arrests them for Child Endangerment.  Then our legal system prosecute those parents and if convicted the children are removed from the parents and placed in the custody of the state.  We are a nation of laws that govern our citizens.  Anyone that attempts to enter our country illegally are considered criminals.  Why is this concept beyond your comprehension?

 

 

 

 


And....while we have the child in governmental custody, the government is responsoble for the child’s welfare. It provides health care, food, shelter, education. 100%.  Of something goes wrong, it’s the government’s fault. 


It is the responsibility of the medical professionals to do all they can but requiring miracles is going a bit far. Those kids were killed by the actions of the parent(s).


That’s an opinion. Not a fact.

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

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@Richva wrote:

I just do not understand why the RWNJs are so nuts because undocumented/illegal residents finally have a chance to get their kid's healthcare.  Weren't the two child deaths in CBP detention enough?  How many human sacrifices do you guys want?


Here in America, when parents put their children into a very dangerous situation, law enforcement arrests them for Child Endangerment.  Then our legal system prosecute those parents and if convicted the children are removed from the parents and placed in the custody of the state.  We are a nation of laws that govern our citizens.  Anyone that attempts to enter our country illegally are considered criminals.  Why is this concept beyond your comprehension?

 

 

 

 


And....while we have the child in governmental custody, the government is responsoble for the child’s welfare. It provides health care, food, shelter, education. 100%.  Of something goes wrong, it’s the government’s fault. 


It is the responsibility of the medical professionals to do all they can but requiring miracles is going a bit far. Those kids were killed by the actions of the parent(s).

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jimc wrote IP:  Anyone that attempts to enter our country illegally are considered criminals.  Why is this concept beyond your comprehension?

 

Mostly because the "crime" has no "victim", committing it has provided a net benefit to our Nation for the past 240 years, and in terms of National Security, enforcing it is harmful, not helpful.

 

From 1776 until the late 1990's millions of people went back and forth across the border to harvest our crops. Then to pretend to be concerned about "border security" jrbush "closed the border', and about 3.3 million of those seasonal migrants decided to stay in this country and send their paychecks back home.

Another 6.5 million came here legally and just overstayed their Visas, and a shade over a million came for jobs that Americans had advertised in the immigrant's local news media back home.

 

Reagan tried to solve the problem by giving green cards to the folks here without papers and tried to go after the ones offering the jobs, but GOPers refused to arrest other GOPers who were getting richer by exploiting the immigrants.

 

Since GOPers kept the jobs available, more people came here TO WORK, and the notion that somehow they "cost us money" is absurd because over half of them pay taxes they cannot file for a refund and FICA they can never collect on. The ones who complain about having immigrant kids in their schools do NOT complain about the huge profits they reap from the inexpensive and very productive labor their community businesses receive and ignore the fact those immigrant families are LESS likely to commit a crime than their native born neighbors.

 

The most ignorant claim from Republicans is that the immigrants TAKE AMERICAN'S JOBS. This ignores the fact it is the BOSS who GIVES the immigrant the job, the BOSS who sends other jobs to Commie slaves in Asia and it is the BOSS who decided to NOT give his American worker a real raise since 1970.

 

The ignorant claim is what scares the GOPerLords - if the GOPer base were to actually THINK, they would realize it was the Republican Establishment who was screwing them over and NOT immigrants. Seems the base had an inkling this was the case, and that's why they voted for Der Trumper. Its obvious Trump has no intention of making things better for workers, so he needs The Gross Wall of Trump to keep his base enraged about IMMIGRANTS, and as long as he can keep that rage going (by emphasizing the immigrants don't have the documents they need to be here legally) the GOPerLords don't have to worry about giving Americans a pay raise and can continue to reduce benefits and retirement and healthcare, robbing the 99% of the reward for their improved productivity to further enrich the already rich.

 

Why is it beyond your comprehension that YOU are being had BY THE BOSS, NOT THE IMMIGRANT?

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

I just do not understand why the RWNJs are so nuts because undocumented/illegal residents finally have a chance to get their kid's healthcare.  Weren't the two child deaths in CBP detention enough?  How many human sacrifices do you guys want?


Here in America, when parents put their children into a very dangerous situation, law enforcement arrests them for Child Endangerment.  Then our legal system prosecute those parents and if convicted the children are removed from the parents and placed in the custody of the state.  We are a nation of laws that govern our citizens.  Anyone that attempts to enter our country illegally are considered criminals.  Why is this concept beyond your comprehension?

 

 

 

 


And....while we have the child in governmental custody, the government is responsoble for the child’s welfare. It provides health care, food, shelter, education. 100%.  Of something goes wrong, it’s the government’s fault. 


It's the law...

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

I just do not understand why the RWNJs are so nuts because undocumented/illegal residents finally have a chance to get their kid's healthcare.  Weren't the two child deaths in CBP detention enough?  How many human sacrifices do you guys want?


Here in America, when parents put their children into a very dangerous situation, law enforcement arrests them for Child Endangerment.  Then our legal system prosecute those parents and if convicted the children are removed from the parents and placed in the custody of the state.  We are a nation of laws that govern our citizens.  Anyone that attempts to enter our country illegally are considered criminals.  Why is this concept beyond your comprehension?

 

 

 

 


And....while we have the child in governmental custody, the government is responsoble for the child’s welfare. It provides health care, food, shelter, education. 100%.  Of something goes wrong, it’s the government’s fault. 

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NYC mayor touted initiative for sanctuary city during gov't shutdown over border wall funding, immigration enforcement.

 

 

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) announced Tuesday that the city would roll out an unprecedented initiative offering free health care to all residents — including illegal immigrants.

 

New York City is a sanctuary city that defies U.S. immigration enforcement laws, protects illegal immigrants from deportation, and limits local cooperation with federal enforcement officers.

 


 


Exactly. It benefits business to have illegal immigrants. Which is why the feds don’t enforce laws 100% like they should.

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