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@rk9152 wrote:

sp wrote - "Denying propaganda is propaganda is an old trick and is usually done by people who are trying to confuse the issue, or don't understand the issue.  You can decide what category you fall into."

 

No doubt they had an agenda but that does not fit the definition of propaganda. Speaking of trying to confuse the issue, how about all those posts about the good done by PP when the subject is really abortion - does that qualify as "propaganda"?


Since you don't seem to know, this is the definition of propaganda: "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

 

What they did IS propaganda.  As far as this subject being about abortion, good deflection, this thread and our discussions have not been about abortion, they have been about the supposed "selling" of body parts.

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   Another DISTRACTION Alert.      The hate of the right on claims that a zygote / blastual / gastula should have be protected like a function human being.

 

    So who should be held responsibe for more than 60% of all abortions?   That is the percent that are spontaneous...your "god"?   

 

    The point is that these 2 people used false information to gain access for  supposedly investigative reporting.    Instead, they lied and created false identities and companies.   

 

     The Detractors really don't want to admit that the video has been selectively edited.     The point that PP provides fetal tissue to researches has been blown up and some RW / RR idiots believe that tissue is not donated every day.    

      The fee that is paid is for all the processing and handling of the documentation....much like the fee that people pay every day that they receive a blood product transfusion.   ( reminder the blood is free)  the $200-$500 fee for which people are billed in the same processing and handling fee.   

 

      

PRO-LIFE is Affordable Healthcare for ALL .
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sp wrote - "Denying propaganda is propaganda is an old trick and is usually done by people who are trying to confuse the issue, or don't understand the issue.  You can decide what category you fall into."

 

No doubt they had an agenda but that does not fit the definition of propaganda. Speaking of trying to confuse the issue, how about all those posts about the good done by PP when the subject is really abortion - does that qualify as "propaganda"?

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

rk9152 wrote"But, how did those "darlings of the Consevatives (sic)" change anything said in other parts?"

 

If you truly don't see the difference between listening to an entire conversation verses an edited piece of propaganda, there is no point in continuing this discussion.


If you do not see the difference between the part of a discussion that settles people in ("How's the wife and kids". "How's the job going") and the meat about needing to make money to buy that new car or specifics of how you change your procedure so as to harvest organs to make money, you're right - this can go nowhere.


It goes somewhere very logical to those who don't look at and listen to small parts of a whole taken out of context.  Many on the Right are aware that a small pert is being used completely out of context and they use it to push forward their opinion and agenda. You may be aware of that and you may be blissfully unaware, it makes no difference to me.


Agreed - it was a small "pert" of the discussions that was relevant to the topic. "How's the wife and kids" parts were ignored as non-relevant.


I will gladly note your spelling errors in the future since you seem so fixated on them. 

 

Anyone who keeps dwelling on small parts of entire statements is doomed to being uninformed and mistaken. Unless of course they know that something was purposely taken completely out of context to promote a position or agenda. Anyone knowing that and using it to promote their position or agenda is supporting and using a lie.


No one is "dwelling on small parts of entire statements". The editing under discussion was done to bring out the elements about PP's selling of body parts. The "How's the wife and kids" type discussion was really not germane hence, were edited out.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

Since some believe a heavily edited video attacking PP, they must also believe Right-to-Life leaders support abortion.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/content/blogs/the-daily-briefing/2015/08/8-18-15-abortion-video.html

 


I don't see the point. The objection is to abortions, not PP. It has been said that PP does much good. As far as I know, that is not contested or even discussed by those "darlings of Conservatives".

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@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

rk9152 wrote"But, how did those "darlings of the Consevatives" change anything said in other parts?"

 

If you truly don't see the difference between listening to an entire conversation verses an edited piece of propaganda, there is no point in contnuing this discussion.


If you do not see the difference between the part of a discussion that settles people in ("How's the wife and kids". "How's the job going") and the meat about needing to make money to buy that new car or specifics of how you change your procedure so as to harvest organs to make money, you're right - this can go nowhere.


It would be nioce if you had the common courtesy to actually read what other post and read the links we are talking about.  What I posted had little to nothing to do with preliminary conversations.  Denying propaganda is propaganda is an old trick and is usually done by people who are trying to confuse the issue, or don't understand the issue.  You can decide what category you fall into.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

rk9152 wrote"But, how did those "darlings of the Consevatives (sic)" change anything said in other parts?"

 

If you truly don't see the difference between listening to an entire conversation verses an edited piece of propaganda, there is no point in continuing this discussion.


If you do not see the difference between the part of a discussion that settles people in ("How's the wife and kids". "How's the job going") and the meat about needing to make money to buy that new car or specifics of how you change your procedure so as to harvest organs to make money, you're right - this can go nowhere.


It goes somewhere very logical to those who don't look at and listen to small parts of a whole taken out of context.  Many on the Right are aware that a small pert is being used completely out of context and they use it to push forward their opinion and agenda. You may be aware of that and you may be blissfully unaware, it makes no difference to me.


Agreed - it was a small "pert" of the discussions that was relevant to the topic. "How's the wife and kids" parts were ignored as non-relevant.


I will gladly note your spelling errors in the future since you seem so fixated on them. 

 

Anyone who keeps dwelling on small parts of entire statements is doomed to being uninformed and mistaken. Unless of course they know that something was purposely taken completely out of context to promote a position or agenda. Anyone knowing that and using it to promote their position or agenda is supporting and using a lie.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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Since some believe a heavily edited video attacking PP, they must also believe Right-to-Life leaders support abortion.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/content/blogs/the-daily-briefing/2015/08/8-18-15-abortion-video.html

 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

rk9152 wrote"But, how did those "darlings of the Consevatives" change anything said in other parts?"

 

If you truly don't see the difference between listening to an entire conversation verses an edited piece of propaganda, there is no point in contnuing this discussion.


If you do not see the difference between the part of a discussion that settles people in ("How's the wife and kids". "How's the job going") and the meat about needing to make money to buy that new car or specifics of how you change your procedure so as to harvest organs to make money, you're right - this can go nowhere.


It goes somewhere very logical to those who don't look at and listen to small parts of a whole taken out of context.  Many on the Right are aware that a small pert is being used completely out of context and they use it to push forward their opinion and agenda. You may be aware of that and you may be blissfully unaware, it makes no difference to me.


Agreed - it was a small "pert" of the discussions that was relevant to the topic. "How's the wife and kids" parts were ignored as non-relevant.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

rk9152 wrote"But, how did those "darlings of the Consevatives" change anything said in other parts?"

 

If you truly don't see the difference between listening to an entire conversation verses an edited piece of propaganda, there is no point in contnuing this discussion.


If you do not see the difference between the part of a discussion that settles people in ("How's the wife and kids". "How's the job going") and the meat about needing to make money to buy that new car or specifics of how you change your procedure so as to harvest organs to make money, you're right - this can go nowhere.


It goes somewhere very logical to those who don't look at and listen to small parts of a whole taken out of context.  Many on the Right are aware that a small pert is being used completely out of context and they use it to push forward their opinion and agenda. You may be aware of that and you may be blissfully unaware, it makes no difference to me.


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