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JUST IN

 

TRUMP GROUNDS PLANES - NEVER ALERTED US AIRLINES - THEY HEARD IT ON THE NEWS

 

The abruptness of Trump's announcement was underscored by the reaction of Southwest Airlines, the nation's biggest user of 737 MAX jets, which said it "is aware of media reports" about the planes being grounded.

 

"We are currently seeking confirmation and additional guidance from the FAA," Southwest added.

 

Source - https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/13/boeing-737-max-8-canada-1220264

 

 

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he took the needed action - let it go.

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Trump just said - Boeing is a Great Company and they will get this all figured out & fixed ''

 

Nice Job - Trump - You Just Gave the over 500 Victims of these crashes grounds for a great Class Action Law Suit

 

 

Source - https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/politics/donald-trump-boeing-faa/index.html

 

 


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Yeah Trump just Caved

 

But read the Comments AGAIN from the Trump Cult in the Other Thread on this Issue about how it's not Trump Job - Chao would do something immediately if something was wrong etc etc

 

Trump Caved Because Progressive Democratic Socialists Never Stopped The Pressure

 

1. Yep, those Klepts got us again.

 

2. not only Klepts but acting Klepts - how will we survive??

 

3. No, I mock silly stuff like making "Klepts" a topic about a tragic plane crash.

 

As to investigating the plane crash - that is well above my pay grade and I am sure it is happening.

 

And speaking of mockable silly stuff - golf in a discussion of a plane crash???

 

4. If there is a cult involved, it is one that brings Klepts and golf into the issue of a plane crash.

 

5. Trump is NOT responsible for everything that goes wrong. By blaming him for everything, you are distracting from real issues.

One of my biggest problems with Trump is that he does not seem to listen to his subject matter experts, since he believes he knows more than they do.

It is up to the FAA to decide what to do about this, not Trump.

If Trump has overruled the FAA, or if the current FAA acting Director is not listening to their own experts, than that is a different story. But, you simply can't blame Trump for everything bad. Contrary to some beliefs it is actually impossible for the man to make an incorrect decision every single time, anymore than somebody can make the correct decision every time.

 

6. Then your argument should be that Trump has eliminated the FAA. Since there are still career people there, the question is has this been moved up the priority list or not. Again, by your blaming Trump for absolutely everything, you are watering down legitimate issues about him. If you are going to try to claim that EVERYTHING bad is Trump's fault, then you will be taken as a left wing Fox News that cannot be trusted.

 

7. Did Trump design or build the plane? Has Trump overruled any expert, or put a non-expert into the head position who refuses to listen to the real experts? Elwell worked for the FAA before Trump was elected.

All you are doing with this thread is being "petty", thus diluting valid arguments on why Trump is not the one to lead the Nation. I would recommend concentrating on real issues instead of going off on a tangent which looks like exactly what it is.

 

8. To follow their FAA recommendations.

 

9. Of course it is being petty. Do you really think one man is capable of doing everything? (as I said, that is an issue I have with Trump). We currently have an FAA. Elwell was the Deputy Administrator under Huerta and is quite capable of running the Department. If the FAA says to ground it and Trump says no, then you have an issue, otherwise this simply looks like the petty sniping that it is.

 

10. There is no question but that more Americans that you are ever so concerned about died in car crashes while driving Fords.

 

Any thoughts???

 

11. A full blown crisis for Boing - what has that to do with Klepts and the President??  

 

Try dealing with the logic of that instead of getting off on colors, caps, and font sizes

 

12. You mentioned various and sundry LAW SUITES and fining of Ford. But never MENTIONED the government removing ALL Fords from the roads ("grounding").

 

13. What has that got to do with Boeing?

 

nothing - it responds to your wild claims about why boeing should be shut down but not ford

 

14. PROFITS FOR COMPANIES ----------OR MAYBE CONVENIENCE OF PASSENGERS

 

I can't imagine that the temporary grounding of one version of one model of a company's fleet is anything to involve the Klepts or Plutos or Autos.

 

15. I would think that would be up to the Federal Aviation Administration not Trump. 

 

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) of the United States is a national authority with powers to regulate all aspects of civil aviation. These include the construction and operation of airports, air traffic management, the certification of personnel and aircraft, and the protection of U.S. assets during the launch or re-entry of commercial space vehicles.

 

16. Mick posted..

Under Trump The FAA has No Permanent Administrator & hasn't for over a year since the last one resigned - as has been discussed in multiple posts in this thread..............................No Acting Jack is going to make a Call Like This..............................to disrupt the Worlds Aviation

Y Hasn't Trump Grounded Boeing Aircraft? That is the subject of this thread.

I posted the answer to that question and as usual I got double talk from the author of this thread.

 

17. WOW!!! Eight miles long, "P", "L", "BPL", Legal precedent, and "36" - hopefully Boeing will figure it out. Such a shame to turn a technical problem into a partisan squabble. 

 

The analysis will be done soon and I hope the appropriate actions will be taken at that time.

 

18. 8 Americans are included in the Total of the Dead From The Second Unexplained Failure of a Boeing 747 Max

 

Trump should have had the FAA expedite a Investigation into the First Crash because so many American Airlines Fly So Many of these Planes - He Did Not

You Know That FOR a FACT?????

 

Now a Second Boeing 747 Max has crashed under similar unexplicable circumstances killing 8 Americans

 

Trump has still not acted

 

He Acted As Was Appropriate. 

 

 

That has everything to do with Kleptocracy

 

As I have POINTED out Grounding one Version OF  a successful Model would NOT gravely effect those Klepts.

 

19. Not complaining but stating something people have been concerned about since "fly by wire" was introduced probably about 30 years ago. How much does the pilot vs the computer control.

 

Snottiness about the Wright Brothers misses an important fact.

 

20. Mick posted..

Under Trump The FAA has No Permanent Administrator & hasn't for over a year since the last one resigned - as has been discussed in multiple posts in this thread..............................No Acting Jack is going to make a Call Like This..............................to disrupt the Worlds Aviation

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FYI Mick...The Secretary of Transportation is Elaine Chow...and she has the authority to ground Air Planes ...and she has been The Department of Transportation (DOT) since 2017 it is a cabinet-level agency of the federal government responsible for helping maintain and develop the nation's transportation systems and infrastructure.

 

21. Actually, if he bothered to look it up, he would have discovered that the safety record today is much better than it was 30 years ago. Since Trump is NOT a subject matter expert, he should be following the recommendations of the FAA.

If the three American lines that fly this plane (and not that many of them) are worried about safety the could ground the flights on their own. After all, it is far cheaper to cancel a few flights than to pay for a plane crash.

There is an awful lot being put on the fact that there have been two issues in two years. What is ignored in that is that they may or may not be the same problem. The first incident, Lion Air, was from a company with such a horrible record that it was banned from flying into the US until 2016 (it was founded in 1999).

Normally, when you talk about partisan issues, I disagree with your definition of what is and is not partisan. However, this particular thread seems to be about as partisan as you can get. To blame Trump for not taking action is ridiculous. As I said before, if he ignored his FAA recommendations, then I would hold him accountable. I for one, don't expect him to be an expert on everything. Personally, I have a problem with him not listening to his experts. If he chooses to ground the 737s without listening to the real professionals, then that action I would disagree with.

 

22. If the US pilots really felt the 737 Max was unsafe to fly, they could refuse to fly it and be protected by whistle blower laws. Again, FAA and airline decision on whether or not this model should continue to fly. If you are saying that has influenced the FAA, then you can question his motives. Otherwise, he should not pretend to be an expert and make a decision on it without looking at facts. That is what does entirely too often.

 

23. No, you seem to be missing the entire point.  How many times have you complained because has either not listened or overrode his subject matter experts?  Now you are complaining because he isn't doing the very thing that you have complained about before.  You are complaining because Trump isn't doing the "mom and pop" decision making that you are complaining about.  THAT LOOKS LIKE THE PETTY SNIPING THAT IT IS.  Pilots file incident reports all of the time.  If they really feel unsafe, they will refuse to fly the plane.

 

By the way, your rant is simply what Rachel Maddow had to say and she was being overly dramatic.  She didn't bother to say how many incidents reports were filed compared to the number of flights and what the average rates of incident reports are for all planes.

 

As I have said before, by trying to blame Trump for everything, you are simply watering down the real issues that are under his control.

 

24. I already know FACTS have no bearing on any of your commentary - but I'll keep trying

 

1. Successful Model - how long has this Model been flying 1 year 2 years 3 years ?

Since 1967.

 

2. My concern here is - we just received even more evidence today of how integral corruption is to not only our Politics & Business - but now even our Academic Infrastructure - is For Sale to those with the ability to pay

How is that connected?

 

How many billions are on the line when there are 5000 of these planes on order right now

They will still be produced. ho harm to the Klepts.

 

8500 flights per week

A lot of inconvenienced travelers if you ground all those people

 

3. It indefensible to watch the Majority of the Worlds Countries - Ground this Plane - and the USA Refuses

Why? Maybe we are right. When the information is fully in, decisions will be made.

 

Especially when Boeing itself has determined the Planes Software requires a patch after just investigation of the first crash

Software always needs patching. 

 

25. Since everything seems to boil down to money (usually other people's) to you, can you expand on your theory here? If there is (as you have suggested) a need for a software patch - it will happen - what is the cost in that?

 

And the truth about Trumps involvement & possible culpability is yet to be revealed

 

And yet, he is mentioned in each post - seems like a bit of bias in that....

 

26. Your long rant seems to be based on the incompetence of Daniel Elwell and (naturally) some as yet undefined ulterior motive on the part of the President. Any supporting material or is it just those rotten Kleptzs.

 

27. How does the physical location of Chou relate to the 737s???

 

28. Where is Elaine Chao?

 

FYI Mick...

Feeling pressure to ground Boeing planes, US Transportation Secretary flies on 737 Max 8
Elaine Chao and her staff flew on a Southwest Airlines 737 Max 8 from Austin, Texas to Washington, D.C. hours after the Transportation Secretary was emphatic in saying her department will ground Max planes if it's determined they are not safe to fly.
"The department and the FAA will not hesitate to take immediate and appropriate action," Chao said, as airlines and governments around the world shutting down Boeing 737 Max airplanes.
Phil LeBeau | @Lebeaucarnews
Published 14 Hours Ago Updated 13 Hours Ago
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U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao speaks during a meeting of the National Space Council at the East Room of the White House June 18, 2018 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump signed an executive order to establish the Space Force, an independent and co-equal military branch, as the sixth branch of the U.S. armed forces. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
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U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao speaks during a meeting of the National Space Council at the East Room of the White House June 18, 2018 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump signed an executive order to establish the Space Force, an independent and co-equal military branch, as the sixth branch of the U.S. armed forces. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
With airlines and governments around the world shutting down Boeing 737 Max airplanes after a second deadly crash of the aircraft, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao is not only resisting the calls to ground the plane, she even flew one of the planes back to Washington Tuesday afternoon.

Chao and her staff flew on a Southwest Airlines 737 Max 8 from Austin, Texas to Washington, D.C. just hours after the Transportation Secretary was emphatic in saying her department will ground Max planes if it's determined they are not safe to fly.

"The department and the FAA will not hesitate to take immediate and appropriate action," Chao said.

 

The needed information became available, the needed action was take, nobody died - let it go.

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Trump didn't cave. He made sure America came in dead last, again. Boeing is an American company. America should have been taking the lead. Instead, Trump made sure America looked as incompetent as his administration.

 

And just yesterday, Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chow, aka Mitch McConnell's wife, was blowgutting about booking flights home from Texas on a MAX. And now the very next day, the fleet is grounded. Given that brand of willful ignorance, it's no wonder that Ethiopia wants France to recover the data from the black boxes.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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  He finally said that the Boeing 737 Max are now grounded....a sore loser, after every other major country not only grounded the planes but also said none of them were allowed in those countries air space.    Maybe it was because Ethiopia refused to send the black boxes to USA for analysis....no sane country trusts the US or its agencies ( FAA) or Sec. of Transportation..   Why should they.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47562727


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Bravo for all of the countries around the world who are now beginning to realize that they can stand up and make decisions for themselves without the input of the know-it-all United States.  However, I hope once we have a Real President in office again,  America will be able to regain some of the respect around the world that it's lost while under the dictatorship of our current counterfeit president better known as The Man in the White House.  

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JUST IN

 

TRUMP GROUNDS PLANES - NEVER ALERTED US AIRLINES - THEY HEARD IT ON THE NEWS

 

The abruptness of Trump's announcement was underscored by the reaction of Southwest Airlines, the nation's biggest user of 737 MAX jets, which said it "is aware of media reports" about the planes being grounded.

 

"We are currently seeking confirmation and additional guidance from the FAA," Southwest added.

 

Source - https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/13/boeing-737-max-8-canada-1220264

 

 

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Trump just said - Boeing is a Great Company and they will get this all figured out & fixed ''

 

Nice Job - Trump - You Just Gave the over 500 Victims of these crashes grounds for a great Class Action Law Suit

 

 

Source - https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/politics/donald-trump-boeing-faa/index.html

 

 

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Yeah Trump just Caved

 

But read the Comments AGAIN from the Trump Cult in the Other Thread on this Issue about how it's not Trump Job - Chao would do something immediately if something was wrong etc etc

 

Trump Caved Because Progressive Democratic Socialists Never Stopped The Pressure

 

1. Yep, those Klepts got us again.

 

2. not only Klepts but acting Klepts - how will we survive??

 

3. No, I mock silly stuff like making "Klepts" a topic about a tragic plane crash.

 

As to investigating the plane crash - that is well above my pay grade and I am sure it is happening.

 

And speaking of mockable silly stuff - golf in a discussion of a plane crash???

 

4. If there is a cult involved, it is one that brings Klepts and golf into the issue of a plane crash.

 

5. Trump is NOT responsible for everything that goes wrong. By blaming him for everything, you are distracting from real issues.

One of my biggest problems with Trump is that he does not seem to listen to his subject matter experts, since he believes he knows more than they do.

It is up to the FAA to decide what to do about this, not Trump.

If Trump has overruled the FAA, or if the current FAA acting Director is not listening to their own experts, than that is a different story. But, you simply can't blame Trump for everything bad. Contrary to some beliefs it is actually impossible for the man to make an incorrect decision every single time, anymore than somebody can make the correct decision every time.

 

6. Then your argument should be that Trump has eliminated the FAA. Since there are still career people there, the question is has this been moved up the priority list or not. Again, by your blaming Trump for absolutely everything, you are watering down legitimate issues about him. If you are going to try to claim that EVERYTHING bad is Trump's fault, then you will be taken as a left wing Fox News that cannot be trusted.

 

7. Did Trump design or build the plane? Has Trump overruled any expert, or put a non-expert into the head position who refuses to listen to the real experts? Elwell worked for the FAA before Trump was elected.

All you are doing with this thread is being "petty", thus diluting valid arguments on why Trump is not the one to lead the Nation. I would recommend concentrating on real issues instead of going off on a tangent which looks like exactly what it is.

 

8. To follow their FAA recommendations.

 

9. Of course it is being petty. Do you really think one man is capable of doing everything? (as I said, that is an issue I have with Trump). We currently have an FAA. Elwell was the Deputy Administrator under Huerta and is quite capable of running the Department. If the FAA says to ground it and Trump says no, then you have an issue, otherwise this simply looks like the petty sniping that it is.

 

10. There is no question but that more Americans that you are ever so concerned about died in car crashes while driving Fords.

 

Any thoughts???

 

11. A full blown crisis for Boing - what has that to do with Klepts and the President??  

 

Try dealing with the logic of that instead of getting off on colors, caps, and font sizes

 

12. You mentioned various and sundry LAW SUITES and fining of Ford. But never MENTIONED the government removing ALL Fords from the roads ("grounding").

 

13. What has that got to do with Boeing?

 

nothing - it responds to your wild claims about why boeing should be shut down but not ford

 

14. PROFITS FOR COMPANIES ----------OR MAYBE CONVENIENCE OF PASSENGERS

 

I can't imagine that the temporary grounding of one version of one model of a company's fleet is anything to involve the Klepts or Plutos or Autos.

 

15. I would think that would be up to the Federal Aviation Administration not Trump. 

 

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) of the United States is a national authority with powers to regulate all aspects of civil aviation. These include the construction and operation of airports, air traffic management, the certification of personnel and aircraft, and the protection of U.S. assets during the launch or re-entry of commercial space vehicles.

 

16. Mick posted..

Under Trump The FAA has No Permanent Administrator & hasn't for over a year since the last one resigned - as has been discussed in multiple posts in this thread..............................No Acting Jack is going to make a Call Like This..............................to disrupt the Worlds Aviation

Y Hasn't Trump Grounded Boeing Aircraft? That is the subject of this thread.

I posted the answer to that question and as usual I got double talk from the author of this thread.

 

17. WOW!!! Eight miles long, "P", "L", "BPL", Legal precedent, and "36" - hopefully Boeing will figure it out. Such a shame to turn a technical problem into a partisan squabble. 

 

The analysis will be done soon and I hope the appropriate actions will be taken at that time.

 

18. 8 Americans are included in the Total of the Dead From The Second Unexplained Failure of a Boeing 747 Max

 

Trump should have had the FAA expedite a Investigation into the First Crash because so many American Airlines Fly So Many of these Planes - He Did Not

You Know That FOR a FACT?????

 

Now a Second Boeing 747 Max has crashed under similar unexplicable circumstances killing 8 Americans

 

Trump has still not acted

 

He Acted As Was Appropriate. 

 

 

That has everything to do with Kleptocracy

 

As I have POINTED out Grounding one Version OF  a successful Model would NOT gravely effect those Klepts.

 

19. Not complaining but stating something people have been concerned about since "fly by wire" was introduced probably about 30 years ago. How much does the pilot vs the computer control.

 

Snottiness about the Wright Brothers misses an important fact.

 

20. Mick posted..

Under Trump The FAA has No Permanent Administrator & hasn't for over a year since the last one resigned - as has been discussed in multiple posts in this thread..............................No Acting Jack is going to make a Call Like This..............................to disrupt the Worlds Aviation

=========================================================

FYI Mick...The Secretary of Transportation is Elaine Chow...and she has the authority to ground Air Planes ...and she has been The Department of Transportation (DOT) since 2017 it is a cabinet-level agency of the federal government responsible for helping maintain and develop the nation's transportation systems and infrastructure.

 

21. Actually, if he bothered to look it up, he would have discovered that the safety record today is much better than it was 30 years ago. Since Trump is NOT a subject matter expert, he should be following the recommendations of the FAA.

If the three American lines that fly this plane (and not that many of them) are worried about safety the could ground the flights on their own. After all, it is far cheaper to cancel a few flights than to pay for a plane crash.

There is an awful lot being put on the fact that there have been two issues in two years. What is ignored in that is that they may or may not be the same problem. The first incident, Lion Air, was from a company with such a horrible record that it was banned from flying into the US until 2016 (it was founded in 1999).

Normally, when you talk about partisan issues, I disagree with your definition of what is and is not partisan. However, this particular thread seems to be about as partisan as you can get. To blame Trump for not taking action is ridiculous. As I said before, if he ignored his FAA recommendations, then I would hold him accountable. I for one, don't expect him to be an expert on everything. Personally, I have a problem with him not listening to his experts. If he chooses to ground the 737s without listening to the real professionals, then that action I would disagree with.

 

22. If the US pilots really felt the 737 Max was unsafe to fly, they could refuse to fly it and be protected by whistle blower laws. Again, FAA and airline decision on whether or not this model should continue to fly. If you are saying that has influenced the FAA, then you can question his motives. Otherwise, he should not pretend to be an expert and make a decision on it without looking at facts. That is what does entirely too often.

 

23. No, you seem to be missing the entire point.  How many times have you complained because has either not listened or overrode his subject matter experts?  Now you are complaining because he isn't doing the very thing that you have complained about before.  You are complaining because Trump isn't doing the "mom and pop" decision making that you are complaining about.  THAT LOOKS LIKE THE PETTY SNIPING THAT IT IS.  Pilots file incident reports all of the time.  If they really feel unsafe, they will refuse to fly the plane.

 

By the way, your rant is simply what Rachel Maddow had to say and she was being overly dramatic.  She didn't bother to say how many incidents reports were filed compared to the number of flights and what the average rates of incident reports are for all planes.

 

As I have said before, by trying to blame Trump for everything, you are simply watering down the real issues that are under his control.

 

24. I already know FACTS have no bearing on any of your commentary - but I'll keep trying

 

1. Successful Model - how long has this Model been flying 1 year 2 years 3 years ?

Since 1967.

 

2. My concern here is - we just received even more evidence today of how integral corruption is to not only our Politics & Business - but now even our Academic Infrastructure - is For Sale to those with the ability to pay

How is that connected?

 

How many billions are on the line when there are 5000 of these planes on order right now

They will still be produced. ho harm to the Klepts.

 

8500 flights per week

A lot of inconvenienced travelers if you ground all those people

 

3. It indefensible to watch the Majority of the Worlds Countries - Ground this Plane - and the USA Refuses

Why? Maybe we are right. When the information is fully in, decisions will be made.

 

Especially when Boeing itself has determined the Planes Software requires a patch after just investigation of the first crash

Software always needs patching. 

 

25. Since everything seems to boil down to money (usually other people's) to you, can you expand on your theory here? If there is (as you have suggested) a need for a software patch - it will happen - what is the cost in that?

 

And the truth about Trumps involvement & possible culpability is yet to be revealed

 

And yet, he is mentioned in each post - seems like a bit of bias in that....

 

26. Your long rant seems to be based on the incompetence of Daniel Elwell and (naturally) some as yet undefined ulterior motive on the part of the President. Any supporting material or is it just those rotten Kleptzs.

 

27. How does the physical location of Chou relate to the 737s???

 

28. Where is Elaine Chao?

 

FYI Mick...

Feeling pressure to ground Boeing planes, US Transportation Secretary flies on 737 Max 8
Elaine Chao and her staff flew on a Southwest Airlines 737 Max 8 from Austin, Texas to Washington, D.C. hours after the Transportation Secretary was emphatic in saying her department will ground Max planes if it's determined they are not safe to fly.
"The department and the FAA will not hesitate to take immediate and appropriate action," Chao said, as airlines and governments around the world shutting down Boeing 737 Max airplanes.
Phil LeBeau | @Lebeaucarnews
Published 14 Hours Ago Updated 13 Hours Ago
CNBC.com
U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao speaks during a meeting of the National Space Council at the East Room of the White House June 18, 2018 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump signed an executive order to establish the Space Force, an independent and co-equal military branch, as the sixth branch of the U.S. armed forces. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
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U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao speaks during a meeting of the National Space Council at the East Room of the White House June 18, 2018 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump signed an executive order to establish the Space Force, an independent and co-equal military branch, as the sixth branch of the U.S. armed forces. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)
With airlines and governments around the world shutting down Boeing 737 Max airplanes after a second deadly crash of the aircraft, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao is not only resisting the calls to ground the plane, she even flew one of the planes back to Washington Tuesday afternoon.

Chao and her staff flew on a Southwest Airlines 737 Max 8 from Austin, Texas to Washington, D.C. just hours after the Transportation Secretary was emphatic in saying her department will ground Max planes if it's determined they are not safe to fly.

"The department and the FAA will not hesitate to take immediate and appropriate action," Chao said.

 

 

Source - https://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Y-Hasn-t-Trump-Grounded-Boeing-Aircraft/td-p/2...

 

 

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heard on the news today that there was some type of glitch in the software, and that it was ordered but got delayed by the 35 day government shutdown. Ooooops!!!!!
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The first sign of big problems for Boeing  to me was when China grounded that model. Boeing is the largest supplier of planes to China for its airlines. Boeing just opened a finishing plant in China for its planes. At one time China used all Russian aircraft. They replaced all of them with Boeing about 40 years ago, and have been close to Boeing  since then. As we learn more it seems there were comments from pilots here is the US about problems with that model. It looks like Boeing did not respond quick enough to get the fix ready. As pointed out by another poster Trump gets into this as the fix to the problem was held up for 5 weeks during the govt. shutdown. Could be most of the planes would have been fixed by now. Do all remember the post on the govt. shutdown that it did not effect the person posting in any way. Well that was from a far right poster and we now see it did as our country aircraft industry could be hurt badly.

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