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Trump Cult members are blind to reality as they remain sheltered within their alternate reality as the layers are being removed around the Trump Criminal Conspiracy. There are so many people whom Comrade Trump hired were arrested and/or indicted, yet they see nothing wrong with that. Why are the oblivious to what's obvious to everyone else?

 

Do some research on cults and how cult members behave.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

So now the rabid RW claims Mueller (a life-long Republican) was given "marching orders" to GET TRUMP by Asst AG Rosenstein (another life-long Republican) who was able to do this only because Jeff Sessions (still one more life-long Republican) had recused himself from the Russia Investigation because of his lying to the FBI about his meetings with the Russian Ambassador.

 

And the Trumpettes believe this because...what?...that Trump has been a sort of Republican for only 2  years and therefore it's logical that all those OTHER Republicans would be out to get him?

 

Not sure even Giuliani (of the Truth isn't Truth TV interview) could deal with this one.


Forget all the complicated theories about the 'RABID RIGHTWING" and Trumpettes and remember back to when we had all the excitement about Russian collusion and the need to get to the bottom of it. And now, Manafort's tax records, Cohens taxi deals, a bunny, a porn queen, Flynn's consulting contract with Turkey - are you ready to accept that it's all about "get Trump" period, no more.


Sorry, but unlike Trump supporters and the Red Queen, I have no interest in "believing as many as six impossible things before breakfast", and  falling for the GOPermime about Mueller being "out to get Trump" would require being able to believe in dozens of impossible things constantly.

 

Why all these "diversions" you ask? First off, they are hardly "diversions".

Manafort was at the meeting with the KGB in Trump Tower, Flynn met with the Russian Ambassador and lied about it to the FBI, Cohen was Trump's VERY close associate and has many taped conversations with The Donald, perhaps some that prove Trump was directly involved with the Russian interference,  buying the hookers silence was to influence the election in an illegal manner AS WAS GETTING RUSSIAN HELP.

 

Now Manafort and Cohen are looking at what could amount to life sentences and their only hope is to give evidence against someone "further up the food chain" . Ummm who could that be?

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

So now the rabid RW claims Mueller (a life-long Republican) was given "marching orders" to GET TRUMP by Asst AG Rosenstein (another life-long Republican) who was able to do this only because Jeff Sessions (still one more life-long Republican) had recused himself from the Russia Investigation because of his lying to the FBI about his meetings with the Russian Ambassador.

 

And the Trumpettes believe this because...what?...that Trump has been a sort of Republican for only 2  years and therefore it's logical that all those OTHER Republicans would be out to get him?

 

Not sure even Giuliani (of the Truth isn't Truth TV interview) could deal with this one.


Forget all the complicated theories about the 'RABID RIGHTWING" and Trumpettes and remember back to when we had all the excitement about Russian collusion and the need to get to the bottom of it. And now, Manafort's tax records, Cohens taxi deals, a bunny, a porn queen, Flynn's consulting contract with Turkey - are you ready to accept that it's all about "get Trump" period, no more.

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So now the rabid RW claims Mueller (a life-long Republican) was given "marching orders" to GET TRUMP by Asst AG Rosenstein (another life-long Republican) who was able to do this only because Jeff Sessions (still one more life-long Republican) had recused himself from the Russia Investigation because of his lying to the FBI about his meetings with the Russian Ambassador.

 

And the Trumpettes believe this because...what?...that Trump has been a sort of Republican for only 2  years and therefore it's logical that all those OTHER Republicans would be out to get him?

 

Not sure even Giuliani (of the Truth isn't Truth TV interview) could deal with this one.

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The President of the United States goes on television and praises a convicted felon, Paul Manafort. If that wasn't bad enough, Trump praised Manafort for NOT cooperating with the law enforcement.

 

Are you serious? Did any of us ever imagine a President of the United States would praise a defendant for NOT cooperating with law enforcement?

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@Panjandrum wrote:

With the Manafort Convictions and Cohen Plea, President Trump Has Been Implicated in a Criminal Conspiracy

 

Limericky News @Limerick_News 4h4 hours ago

 
 

We're learning from Michael and Paul,

Who've had a precipitous fall,

That serving a chief Who's a liar and thief

Will only imprison us all


Well, that does it - the President has been convicted by Limmericky News. It's over now.

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@oceanedge2 wrote:

rk - I did not see any interference by the Russians in that. Did I miss something?

 

Order # 3915-2017, Rod J, Rosenstein to Robert S. Mueller III, dated 5/17/17

 

Could it be you are just becoming more forgetful with each passing day? I sure don't want to think the three previous times I posted Mueller's marching order to you, you didn't bother to read it at all.  Maybe you did but could simply not comprehend the words and their meaning.  So here is a review of Rosenstein's (15 months ago) referenced point-of-law that will fill in the blanks for you.  Specifically,  paragraph:

 

(b)(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. 600.4(a). 

28 CFR 600.4 - Jurisdiction.

(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

 

(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.

 

(c)Civil and administrative jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel determines that administrative remedies, civil sanctions or other governmental action outside the criminal justice system might be appropriate, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General with respect to the appropriate component to take any necessary action. A Special Counsel shall not have civil or administrative authority unless specifically granted such jurisdiction by the Attorney General.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4

 


I understand that his "marching orders" were written pretty much as "get Trump by whatever means necessary". But to the average man in the street and here and the MSM, it was supposedly about Russian collusion with regard to the elections.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I did not see any interference by the Russians in that. Did I miss something??


Of course you didn't.  They interfered with the trump campaign following election law and interfered with Donny Jr's and his daddy's ability to tell the truth.

 

I've alway's found that those with their heads buried in the sand often "miss something".  


And there are the clear thinkers who can look at the post and see nothing about Russian interference. Then there are those who make stuff up and try to justify it with "heads buried in the sand" type snarkiness.


So are all other illegal activities OK, except for Russian interference?  Hurry now ...... "make something up" !


Sorry I took so long, I was working on page 1.

 

A decade old affair, I don't know if it is O.K. but I do not see it's relevance. Manifort's decade old tax issues - same. Cohen's scam with a taxi company - same.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I did not see any interference by the Russians in that. Did I miss something??


Oh, that's coming, have patience grasshopper. Of course some hard core trump supporters wouldn't recognize it or acknowledge it if their faces were rubbed in it. Tic toc closer to trump, tic toc closer to trump, tic toc closer to trump ..............


O.K. - I can't wait to see the connection between the NY Madam, the Bunny, the porn star and Putin. 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

More Trump Cult redirection. Nobody's claimed anything yet about a conspiracy with Russia to impact the election. We'll find that out after the Mueller team completes its investigation. But talking about that makes his cult members feel better.

Was that not the supposed purpose of the Mueller investigation? Surely it wasn't porn stars, old tax records, lobbying for Turkey, etc.

 

For now, so many people in the Trump campaign and administration have pled guilty or been convicted of felonies, it's hard to keep track of them. But the key point here is none of the guilty please or convictions have any impact on how Trump Cult members perceive their Supreme Leader. In their eyes, Comrade Trump is still their hero and idol. What's a few hundred lies or indictments and convicitions mean anyway?

You have invented an entire world and planted it in your head. It is composed of Trump Cult, Supreme Leader, Comrade Trump, hero, and idol.

 

It is impossible to deal reasonably with your make believe world.


 

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