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@Olderscout66  and @john258 

As always, thank you for providing historical perspectives, texture, and realism to what trump is actually doing, not what trump says he is doing. 
We are in a crisis, and it is not just the virus. I am certainly concerned about Our future. I think perhaps many of Us are asking: is trump really that big of a narcissistic fumble bum, or is he doing this intentionally and who might be pulling his strings. 
We need to pay very close attention. 

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I think anyone who believes this to be "overblown hysteria" should drop in on Boris Johnson during his visit to intensive care and give him a big kiss. 

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Overblown! 300,000+ infected, and 10,000 dead...what happened to "15 infections, it'll go away, we have it totally under control". Yes, before we have paid for, and expect our government to help in times of crisis...but, trump has thrown that out and expects Us to pay him in order for government to help out...maybe, as long as We pay homage to him and his greatness. This is who we have and he ain't much!

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For those of you complaining about Trump being blamed for the coronavirus/COVID-19 pandemic:

 

I thought I would post a little history lesson for everyone on both sides of the political divide. I think it’s important that we understand the truth, especially come November when it’s time to vote. Forgive the length, but hey, we all have time on our hands to read, correct?

 

In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat and died a brutal death a day later. After that, there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics, and communication.

 

Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the U.S.

 

Working with the U.N. and the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the U.S. through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

 

Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

 

Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30, 2014, we detected our first case in the U.S.A. A man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas and somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola but later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic, but thanks to the actions of our government under President Obama, it never did. Those THREE EBOLA CONFIRMED CASES were the ONLY cases of Ebola in the U.S.A. because Obama did what needed to be done THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST CASE.

 

Ebola is even more contagious than COVID-19. Had Obama not acted swiftly, millions of Americans would have died horrible, painful, deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you’ve never seen how Ebola kills, it’s horrific).

 

It is ironic because since President Obama acted decisively we forget about his actions since the disease never reached our shores BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID.

 

Now the story of COVID-19 and Trump’s response that we know about thus far:

 

Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC, and he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country - a position created by the Obama administration.

 

In June 2019, tRump cancelled the maintenance contrat for the supplies in the Strategic national Medical Stockpile, so today, a large number of the ventilators in the inventory DO NOT WORK BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT BEEN MAINTAINED. The stockpile includes many items with rubber and latex “seals” that deteriorate over time as well as medications that have expiration dates requiring that the expired stocks be disposed of AND REPLACED, but without the maintenance contract tRump cancelled none of that was done.

 

When the outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China’s problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?

In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn’t done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence. Insteaqd of believing our experts, Trump called Premier Xi and Xi told him everything was fine in China, and tRump sent China 17.4 TONS of PPE and other essential material even as he called Covid19 “the Chinese virus”.

 

When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a plethora of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests “better” if we needed them. However, he never ordered U.S. companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own. tRump’s imaginary travel ban on the EU EXCLUDED the UK and Ireland, places where tRump has income properties

 

According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump’s FDA.

 

When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a “liberal hoax” conjured up to try to make him “look bad after impeachment failed.”

 

The next time Trump spoke of COVID-19, we had SIXTY-FOUR CONFIRMED CASES but Trump went before microphones and told the American public that we only had FIFTEEN cases “and pretty soon that number will be close to zero.” All while the disease was spreading, he took no action to get more tests.

 

What Trump did was to PRETEND TO stop flights from China from coming here. In reality, he continued to allow travel BY AMERICANS and other groups so over 430,000 travelers FROM CHINA arrived in the US after tRump’s imaginary “travel ban” including over 4,000 who arrived in the USA DIRECTLY FROM WUHAN, the epicenter of the pandemic. tRump’s actions were too little and too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the U.S. by Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.

 

Trump has repeatedly REFUSED to purchase essential equipment and supplies on behalf of ALL th3e States, instead demanding each Governor bid against his neighbors, so the price of equipment is being bid up which slows the distribution of the equipment and maximizes the profits for the Corporate Oligarchs who control the supply.

 

Trump talked about the Defense Produiction Act for weeks before finally asking GM to manufacture ventilators. Ford and a few others have decided to begin making PPE and ventilators on their own, but TWO MONTHS have already elapsed since the need for these life saving devices was known and thousands will die needlessly because of fRumps inaction.

 

Because of tRump’s trying to blame Chinese for the disease, his supporters have been attacking Asian Americans all across our nation. Even more vile, his supporters are now making death threats against Dr Fauci because these cretins claim the good doctor is a member of the imaginary Deep State trying to undermine THEIR ToadPOTUS. The threats are serious enough that the Secret Service has added a personal protection detail to Dr Fauci. Trump has not spoken a WORD to denounce the murderous thugs who call him dear leader.

 

As of the moment I am posting this, the evening of April 6, 2020, we have 337,971 COVID-19 CONFIRMED CASES and 9,654 COVID-19 DEATHS in the U.S.A. The actual number is undoubtedly more than triple that amount.

 

As if you needed one more reason to vote out the psychopahic Toad, here it is.

 

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If you ever watch Fox News you will see they have been using Dr. Drew for some time now as their chief reference for Medical comment. Dr Drew does not tell out right lies but does give answers that on their own could be true, and then are taken by FOX and combined with other information some of which is also true, but become a lie when combined. This is a trick that the far right has used for years now. You see it here in the support articles used by the Trump enablers to start threads. The enablers do not understand the articles are not true, but those who take the time to learn the subject quickly realize it. One great thing is most non Trump enablers fit the group who take time to learn the subject.

When an enabler tells us about seeing tanks in our streets and or Marshall law here is what they are telling you. As I have posted for about 2 years if Trump thinks he will loose the election, or if he has lost it here is what could happen. 1. Trump declares Marshall Law and takes over all areas of the fed govt. he has not already taken over. He uses the military to enforce that so we will see tanks in the Street, and by Trump he will have followed the law as he interprets it.

You have seen Trump take over the JD with Barr, Make Congress close to useless, Take over the courts, and we have watched him take over the military  in total with the climax the firing of the Carrier Capt. for speaking out. He has in place his lackey as Sec. of Def., and acting Sec. of Navy, and I am sure he thinks the other 2 Sec. are the same. We see him use the Uniform Chiefs as dressing for his afternoon Dear Leader Talks to the his subjects. Sadly I think we very well could see tanks in the streets just as the enablers have told us. Keep in mind they only repeat what leadership tells them, and have never understood any of it. Our final hour could be Nov. then the USA dies as we have known it. I hope I am wrong.

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the biggest difference between the GOP and Dems. and most Indies is that with us we are all in this together. We take care of each other, where with most in the Trump Party, once again some deny this is a problem, but the feeling is like your on your own! The biggest job of the government in my opinion is to take care of the country AND IT'S PEOPLE. Case closed.
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absolutely William!! well said as usual.
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Moscow45:  What exactly do you suggest? Military tanks driving throughout the streets? Marshall law?

 

 

What makes you think we're going to see tanks in our streets or Marshall law?

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@Moscow45 wrote:

 

 

Here is Dr. Drew on the Coronavirus:

 

In two separate interviews, Dr. Drew Pinsky, M.D., said the liberal media are "over-reacting" to coronavirus, do not know how to report on it, and have created a "hysteria." The "press needs to shut up," he said, adding that the measures taken by President Trump, the CDC, and Dr. Anthony Fauci are "appropriate" and should be heeded.

 

The "right people" are combating this virus, he said, stressing that Dr. Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, "will tell you what's going on" and "when you need to worry." 

 

Dr. Drew on Coronavirus: Hysterical 'Press Needs to Shut Up,' Fauci, CDC, Trump Doing What's 'Approp... 

 

Dr. Drew is 100%. When you have magots on CNN, MSNBC, and ABC reporting medical stories, they simply do not know how to report these stories correctly.  

 

 


Dr. Drew has apologized for his ill-conceived comments.

 

NEW YORK (AP) — Celebrity doctor Drew Pinsky has apologized for a series of statements unspooled in a recent video where he downplayed the coronavirus and suggested that it was a “press-induced panic.”

“I wish I had gotten it right, but I got it wrong,” said Pinsky in a video posted over the weekend.

Read entire article.

 

Tell me again how Dr. Drew is 100% and the media do not know how to report it correctly.

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