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Communism explained.

 

I'm sure many of you remember this commercial...

 

Wendy's explains communism....

 

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Communism is like Trump being faithful to one of his wives. It sounds really good but you just can't make it work.

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They all ended pretty much in failure for the same reason - they are unnatural - that is where the basic decency of Marx got clobbered by reality. 

 

That is true in any system of government where "reality"  overrules basic decency.

 

As Americans we don't know how ugly Capitalism can be, due largely to Progressive Era,  New Deal, and Great Society  reforms.

 

We temper Capitalism with Socialism, and there is plenty of precedent for that from our European Heritage.

 

The idea for the " commons ", public property, and public services,  is embedded in out culture, we take it for granted.

 

We shouldn't, it doesn't have to be that way. 

 

 

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To live under a communist moon...no way! To live under a fascist moon...no way! To live under a dictatorship...no way!

To me, these types of government are thinly disguised veils for the leaders. Many leaders have commonality...they are common criminals, sociopathic killers, and authoritarian figures who don’t give a crap about about those they pretend to say that they are making their lives better, when in reality making their lives much worse. 

Just look at their perks and lifestyles versus the lives of the common people. 

And we don’t have look any further than wanna be trump. He’s spending two weeks at his resort living the high life, while he is taking food support and healthcare away from kids or locking them up. He has his, let the rest eat cake crumbs!

No thanks communism

No thanks trump

 

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But I don't wanna be your equal, rk. I want to be treated a lot better than you. Smiley Very Happy

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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@rk9152 wrote:

Defitinely "yes". The concept of everyone being equal is unnatural. We have workaholics, we have schlumps - it's nature. To expect all to get the same rewards and everyone like the idea is very unrealistic.


It would probably be a good idea to have equal access to opportunity though.  Capable schools, no school debt, the possibility of upward mobility.  Canada beats the U.S. in economic mobility every year with its government paid tuition. Not communism but an investment just like roads or airports. 

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@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

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Obviously Trump thinks so, at least according to his fellow Republicans. I miss having a president who saved the economy and did not endanger it. 

 

 

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., lamented the Trump administration's increasing interference in the economy.

"This is becoming more and more like a Soviet-type of economy here," Johnson reportedly said, with "commissars" providing benefits.


That means you agree with Whoopi or that you disagree with Whoopi?


It means I think Trump is an idiot who keeps digging a bigger hole with his ill informed economic policies.   Is there anyone in the world besides Republicans who believe in a state managed economy? 


But that is not the topic. Come on, it's not all that hard - do you agree with Whoopi?


COmmunism has a few good POINTS..but overall i DONT agree with it. It has no incentive outside of the party itself. Is it better on paper than it has been in practice? yes. 


Capitalism has a few good points - only three or four more than trump's secret "ism" - Putinism...

 

Just as with all political, social, religious and governmental systems in the world - pure anything Has always been much less worthwhile and functional than a combination - synthesis - hybridization...

 

All living creatures - including humans - are "hybrid" evolutionary developments - of many good and and functional points that enhance survival...

 

Yep capitalism is an extreme that is not entirely functional all alone - and MUCH less worthwhile than a blend of the best parts of communism, socialism, and capitalism - as anyone - but profoundly deranged and delusional trump supporters (all trump supporters are clearly a bubble or two off of plumb) can clearly see when examining the nations/governments/societies of Northern European Nations.

 

Why can't trump supporters see that?

It has to do with the way trump supporters see things and do things - as illustrated in the following drawing showing  "the dim-witted trump supporter way of doing things"...

 

 

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Yes- quite unfortunately the vast majority of trump supporters are "that way"...

 

 

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@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Obviously Trump thinks so, at least according to his fellow Republicans. I miss having a president who saved the economy and did not endanger it. 

 

 

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., lamented the Trump administration's increasing interference in the economy.

"This is becoming more and more like a Soviet-type of economy here," Johnson reportedly said, with "commissars" providing benefits.


That means you agree with Whoopi or that you disagree with Whoopi?


It means I think Trump is an idiot who keeps digging a bigger hole with his ill informed economic policies.   Is there anyone in the world besides Republicans who believe in a state managed economy? 


But that is not the topic. Come on, it's not all that hard - do you agree with Whoopi?


COmmunism has a few good POINTS..but overall i DONT agree with it. It has no incentive outside of the party itself. Is it better on paper than it has been in practice? yes. 


Defitinely "yes". The concept of everyone being equal is unnatural. We have workaholics, we have schlumps - it's nature. To expect all to get the same rewards and everyone like the idea is very unrealistic.

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I think that means that you agree with Whoopi and (gasp) - me. True?

 

I all looks good on paper, it's the decisions people make and the actions they take that make what people do good or bad.

 

Government or what economic system that is used is no exception.

 

The US had many Utopian societies over the years, at least one still exists.

 Sure - they actually predated Marx and the rest of this Starbucks, latte sippin', hippy buds. The communes of the hippy-era also were an example.

 

They all ended pretty much in failure for the same reason - they are unnatural - that is where the basic decency of Marx got clobbered by reality. 

 

No doubt one can point to some that have had some success. I expect they are strongly religious - so the objective of the "hereafter" creates a willingness to overcome natural inclinations.

 

 

 


 

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@rker321 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

I never thought that I'd agree with Whoopi Goldberg, but she nailed it:

 

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2011/12/20/whoopi-goldberg-communism-great-conce...


Gee RK  if you really believe that communism is  great  even on paper, you should have told me a long time ago, I would'nt have bothered to come here, After all I should have known that I was living in paradise.


Gee 321 - you really didn't take the trouble to read her words before you expressed your meaningless opinion of them.

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