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Note: will need to check further, I did not see the actual figures on what is their normal snowfall for the season, or what what actuall fell this winter season. 

 

1. If you look closely at the photo in the article, you will notice that there is not 20

inches of snow on the ground

2. If they normally 10 feet of snow and there is an increase of 750%, did they have 75 feet this year?

3. They did mention an amount of .1 inch normal, versus 20 inches, which would a large percentage increase, but not earthshaking...is that the 4000% increase?

4. Is someone playing with the numbers?

 

I may have missed something, but is the total winter snowpack 40 times normal, or is this one time solstice event 40 times normal? 20 inches of snow at elevation is not earthshaking, 10 foot might be. Even if untimely, we get a lot of our fresh water from runoff. All things considered I would rather have a little more snowpack, versus less. 

Which ever it is, we need to pay close close attention to climate change, which will affect everyone. 

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@Panjandrum wrote:

ChasKy53:   The ignorance and denial about how Global Warming brings radical climate change and strange weather patterns is absolutely astounding.

 

 

True. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Their minds are made up and nothing will change it because they aren't interested in facts, just bias confirmation. They will forever be looking for any crumb that they agree with no matter how ridiculous it makes them look.


Our grandchildren are more informed.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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or how about making the oil companies pay for it, since they knew about this coming, going as far back as in the 80's in an Exxon study case.

 

 

My uninformed opinion is the fossil fuel industry knew carbon was a problem since at least 1965, and they knew all that carbon dumped in the atmosphere would have to be cleaned up someday.

 

The big money behind carbon capture is big fossil fuel. 

 

They sold Americans on the car culture, killed the rail and trolley systems, and made a fortune loading up the atmosphere with carbon.

 

Now they're going to make a fortune removing the carbon.

 

A carbon tax is going to happen, and when it does don't blame Democrats or big government, blame big fossil fuel.

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@Tom5678 wrote:
or how about making the oil companies pay for it, since they knew about this coming, going as far back as in the 80's in an Exxon study case.

Absolutily! Then use the carbon tax revenue to replant forests, especially Urban Forests (repealing the Reagan Scam will provide all the money needed to build Nuclear Reactors at all the existing coal fired electric generating plants)

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or how about making the oil companies pay for it, since they knew about this coming, going as far back as in the 80's in an Exxon study case.
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Nuclear power is the only solution in the time we have to solve the problem.

 

Replace the fossil fuel fired boilers with fail-safe nuclear reactors.

 

Then add storage batteries to all the wind and solar generators so they can operate when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow.

 

And to pay for it all, REPEAL THE REGAN TAX SCAM. The concentration of income and wealth Reagan created will allow our (inflation adjusted) 1980 tax brackets to erase the debt and put the money back where it belongs - in the pockets of the ones who produced it.

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Deniers really need to learn the difference between weather and climate. But of course that would deprive them of their only "observable" evidence to keep the GOPerBase ignorant concerning climate change.

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No one has ever answered this question for me.  If CO2 is so bad then why do many greenhouse growers add a CO2 generator to their greenhouse to enhance plant growth?  

 

To recycle carbon from existing carbon capture plants, the EU / Europe has a few, maybe half a dozen. Think of it like recycling backtop instead of making and using new black top. That will work but carbon capture loses money doing it. That is why the carbon tax is needed, to make recycling carbon viable. 

 

Avoid  the tax by not using carbon, electric cars, renewable energy, conservation, if I had my way growing trees. 

 

How much is too much and how do you control emissions from a volcano eruption?

 

A lot, what happens if we run CO2 way up and we get a big extended eruption?

 

We get cooling from the ash in the air for a few years, but all that carbon is still there. 

 

We run carbon up past 2C increase and we lose that buffer, we warm the oceans up, we lose that heatsink buffer, we melt all the ice, we lose that heatsink buffer.

 

Things could go the wrong way fast,  we are squandering the natural buffer protections we have by heating up oceans and melting ice,

 

We need to stop doing that, like now, but we can't do it now, even using direct capture it's going to take time, we need 40,000 direct air capture plants to reduce carbon back to the levels it was fifty years ago. 

 

It's going to take time to grow trees, to build renewables

 

We're out of time. 

 

 

 

 

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The idea that man made global climate change can be reversed by a heavy snowfall in one, tiny, part of the world shows how little actual reading on the subject the authors have done.  The increase in global temperatures is a few degrees BUT IT IS A BIG .PLANET and a few degrees increase is a lot of energy  To point out there was a huge dip in temperatures someplace then using it as an argument against MMCC is ignorant at best.  

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@gruffstuff What would you have Americans do that you think would make a difference? 

 

Direct air capture works, that is what Bill Gates is getting behind, but the whole world would need about 40,000 direct air capture plants.

 

There are already several direct air capture plants up and running around the world.

 

To make that work you have to tax carbon, use fossil fuels if you want, just pay the carbon tax. 

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