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Ridiculous.

 

Does this baker question ALL of his customers about their sexual practices before allowing them to purchase wedding cakes?

 

Of course not.

 

The baker isn't expected to participate in or celebrate any of his customers' events. He is only expected to bake.

 

He can do business with paying customers, abide by the law, and freely practice his religion all at the same time. Instead, he chooses to discriminate under the guise of religion. I don't feel sorry for him at all.

 

And yes, he can be sued again and again and again. Capitalism 101 😁


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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:


So - does that mean that the BATF is a Communist/Marxist organization because it tells firearms manufacturers, firearms dealers and firearms owners what they can and can't do?


No.  Their regulation is to assist federal, state, and local law enforcement in the ongoing effort to reduce crime and violence.  Basically a law enforcement function.  


That's your opinion in support of law enfarcement...

He (tRump) is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages...
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@alferdpacker wrote:


So - does that mean that the BATF is a Communist/Marxist organization because it tells firearms manufacturers, firearms dealers and firearms owners what they can and can't do?


No.  Their regulation is to assist federal, state, and local law enforcement in the ongoing effort to reduce crime and violence.  Basically a law enforcement function.  

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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Hey, Marxists can suggest any plan they like.  I am just saying that when someone goes to the hospital, they must be treated.  When they want to buy a home, they must be able to buy it. When they want to buy groceries, they have to be allowed to do so


Wouldn't the government telling owners how to run their business be a feature of Marxism?  In the free enterprise system it is the customer determining the success of a business...if they are turned off by the policies and actions of the ownership they shop elsewhere. 

 

You have basically described a communistic socialistic state where the government dictates social and business practices.  Let the customer decide by their feet...if they aren't happy with the policies of a business, there are others who would probably be happy to EARN it.

 

 


So - does that mean that the BATF is a Communist/Marxist organization because it tells firearms manufacturers, firearms dealers and firearms owners what they can and can't do?

He (tRump) is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages...
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@Richva wrote:


Hey, Marxists can suggest any plan they like.  I am just saying that when someone goes to the hospital, they must be treated.  When they want to buy a home, they must be able to buy it. When they want to buy groceries, they have to be allowed to do so


Wouldn't the government telling owners how to run their business be a feature of Marxism?  In the free enterprise system it is the customer determining the success of a business...if they are turned off by the policies and actions of the ownership they shop elsewhere. 

 

You have basically described a communistic socialistic state where the government dictates social and business practices.  Let the customer decide by their feet...if they aren't happy with the policies of a business, there are others who would probably be happy to EARN it.

 

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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When a vendor opens their shop, they should be required to serve all patrons.

 


Better still why not just do away with private enterprise and have all businesses owned and operated by the government?  Didn't that work out very well in the Soviet Union; and look how well its working out in other countries around the world.


Hey, Marxists can suggest any plan they like.  I am just saying that when someone goes to the hospital, they must be treated.  When they want to buy a home, they must be able to buy it. When they want to buy groceries, they have to be allowed to do so. 

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@Richva wrote:

 

When a vendor opens their shop, they should be required to serve all patrons.

 


Better still why not just do away with private enterprise and have all businesses owned and operated by the government?  Didn't that work out very well in the Soviet Union; and look how well its working out in other countries around the world.

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@Richva wrote:

When a vendor opens their shop, they should be required to serve all patrons.  I don't care if it is against your religion or your family customs, or you just don't feel like it. You either serve all the public or get out of the way for someone who will. 


No doubt there were bakers quite willing to get the business. But this (like the Indiana pizza case) seem more like the Smollett case of looking for an issue to get publicity.

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@Richva wrote:

When a vendor opens their shop, they should be required to serve all patrons.  I don't care if it is against your religion or your family customs, or you just don't feel like it. You either serve all the public or get out of the way for someone who will. 


Exactly. Legal discrimination is still discrimination. Jim Crow laws were once legal in this country, too.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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When a vendor opens their shop, they should be required to serve all patrons.  I don't care if it is against your religion or your family customs, or you just don't feel like it. You either serve all the public or get out of the way for someone who will. 

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