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Yes ,you have a big problems and your posts show that over and over.


So you cannot logiclly a rationally debate or defend your point so you restort to personally attacking Alferpacker?  Doesn't surprise me in the least, it's what Right Wingers do daily here.

 

Please explain why you think the the 49ers organization should punish Kaepernick for exercising his Constitutional right to peacefully protest ?????

 

If an employer prohibited you from exercising any of your constitutional rights would you think that to be OK ?????

 

You don't have to answer, I'm used to Right Wingers (you) not answering me because the questions I ask are difficult for them to answer without incriminating their selves.  The truth hurts sometimes.


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Yes I do think that it's a very good thing.

I have always rejected the opinions of right wingers - McCarthy, Nixon, and so on right up to and most specifically el pendejo naranjo.

Chip on my shoulder?

The chip I got from Samuel Osgood who led minutemen from Andover in support of rebels who had taken up arms against the British at Lexington and Concord?

The chip I got from another Osgood ancestor who wrote in 1789 that only the fact that the colonists won kept them from being hanged?

The chip I passed on to my son, an ACLU attorney, and his youngest daughter - who at the age of eleven successfully invoked her Fifth Amendment right to be silent and her sixth Amendment right to not be required to answer any questions from the school principal, and the police officer assigned to the school until after she had spoken to her father and the attorney he retained?
PS - the school district was required to destroy all records and mentions of disciplinary actions and settled out of court for a significant sum that will comfortably fund her undergraduate and masters degrees.

The chip that says that right wingers have neither the right nor the authority to tell me what is right and what is wrong?

Yeah - that chip.

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right winger...1789...ACLU..fifth amendment & out of court settlement

chip..yes a very big chip

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Colin Kaepernick gets his pay from his employer. His employer should have rules that forbid him from showing disrespect toward our country.  Really?  You think employers should be forced to act on your views?  OMG!

Its sad that we have people that think Kaepernick is doing is a good thing....  Nope.  It's sad that some want to control other's behavior.  It seems like mostly the White Conservatives here on this forum.
probably the same people that do not care that some members of the BLM group destroy public and private property....they think that's their right..its not.  Or probably not.

I worry about the direction our country is going...am I alone on this?  The direction?  Peaceful, non-violent, lawful protest?  OMG!  One must assume you must prefer unlawful and violent protest.

Its also insane that we have a group of posters that are trying to make this a political issue...it is not.\Hmmm, and all these years I never considered the Constitution to be a "political issue".

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fangohn45 posted..

So, Colin is just exercising his constitutional rights , yet the police are using "Strong arm tactics (pouring coal on the fire) with their peaceful protest?? Hmmmm, sure seems like a typical left wing double standard.
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So typical of the people that want to condone what Colin Kaepernick has done and why.
I certainly condone what he did.  Any "good American" who supports the Constitution would condone peaceful protest.  It's not surprising to see that only White Conservatives here don't.



 


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Even grade school athletes are following Kaepernick's example of Constitutionally Protected First Amendment Free Speech and taking a knee in a display of complete lack of support for white cops who are getting away with the completely unjustified murders of unarmed unresisting black citizens.

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And you think that is a good thing...reading your posts you seem to be against respect for our country...you take the side of the anti American nuts...what is with that chip on your shoulder? What?

Yes I do think that it's a very good thing.

 

I have always rejected the opinions of right wingers - McCarthy, Nixon, and so on right up to and most specifically el pendejo naranjo.

 

Chip on my shoulder?

 

The chip I got from Samuel Osgood who led minutemen from Andover in support of rebels who had taken up arms against the British at Lexington and Concord?

 

The chip I got from another Osgood ancestor who wrote in 1789 that only the fact that the colonists won kept them from being hanged?

 

The chip I passed on to my son, an ACLU attorney, and his youngest daughter - who at the age of eleven successfully invoked her Fifth Amendment right to be silent and her sixth Amendment right to not be required to answer any questions from the school principal, and the police officer assigned to the school until after she had spoken to her father and the attorney he retained?

PS - the school district was required to destroy all records and mentions of disciplinary actions and settled out of court for a significant sum that will comfortably fund her undergraduate and masters degrees.

 

The chip that says that right wingers have neither the right nor the authority to tell me what is right and what is wrong?

 

Yeah - that chip.

 

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And you think that is a good thing...reading your posts you seem to be against respect for our country...you take the side of the anti American nuts...what is with that chip on your shoulder? What?

Sorry, he sat during the anthem.  Did you notice what us Vietnam War protesters were doing in the late sixties? Your opinion of that?

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Even grade school athletes are following Kaepernick's example of Constitutionally Protected First Amendment Free Speech and taking a knee in a display of complete lack of support for white cops who are getting away with the completely unjustified murders of unarmed unresisting black citizens.

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And you think that is a good thing...reading your posts you seem to be against respect for our country...you take the side of the anti American nuts...what is with that chip on your shoulder? What?

WE have yet to hear your explanation as to how Kaepernick is doing anything against the Constitution. You want the 49ers to infringe on Kaepernick's Constitutional rights and that is DEPLORABLE. Do you have a "chip on your shoulder? What ?????

 


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Even grade school athletes are following Kaepernick's example of Constitutionally Protected First Amendment Free Speech and taking a knee in a display of complete lack of support for white cops who are getting away with the completely unjustified murders of unarmed unresisting black citizens.

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And you think that is a good thing...reading your posts you seem to be against respect for our country...you take the side of the anti American nuts...what is with that chip on your shoulder? What?
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Kaepernick's action is Constitutionally Protected First Amendment Free Speech.

 

It's said that Kaepernick's employer's ticket sales have risen and it must be noted that sales of Kaepernick Jerseys have risen to number one position because of his action.

 

Wonder if the media will have the cojones to play their cameras over the crowds during the playing of the anthem - many of whose members will also not be standing for the anthem...

Bet the cowards don't do it.

 

Even grade school athletes are following Kaepernick's example of Constitutionally Protected First Amendment Free Speech and taking a knee in a display of complete lack of support for white cops who are getting away with the completely unjustified murders of unarmed unresisting black citizens.

 

It's also an open and very public repudiation of the speech and opinions of the head deplorable - Trump - and his deplorable sub-median followers...

 

 

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Colin Kaepernick gets his pay from his employer. His employer should have rules that forbid him from showing disrespect toward our country.

Its sad that we have people that think Kaepernick is doing is a good thing....probably the same people that do not care that some members of the BLM group destroy public and private property....they think that's their right..its not.

I worry about the direction our country is going...am I alone on this?

Its also insane that we have a group of posters that are trying to make this a political issue...it is not.

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Pat Tillman
Corporal Patrick Tillman.jpg
Tillman in 2003, as a specialist
Birth name Patrick Daniel Tillman
Nickname(s) "Pat"
Born November 6, 1976
Fremont, California, U.S.
Died April 22, 2004 (aged 27)
Spera, Afghanistan
Allegiance United States of America
Service/branch United States Army
Years of service 2002–04
Rank Army-USA-OR-04a-2015.svg Corporal (posthumously)
Unit
2 Ranger Battalion Shoulder Sleeve Insignia.svg 2nd Ranger Battalion
75 Ranger Regiment Shoulder Sleeve Insignia.svg 75th Ranger Regiment
Battles/wars
Global War on Terrorism

Iraq War
War in Afghanistan (KIA)
Awards
Silver Star ribbon.svg Silver Star
Purple Heart BAR.svg Purple Heart
Meritorious Service ribbon.svg Meritorious Service Medal
Football career
No. 40
Position: Safety
Personal information
Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Weight: 202 lb (92 kg)
Career information
High school: San Jose (CA) Leland
College: Arizona State
NFL draft: 1998 / Round: 7 / Pick: 226
Career history
Arizona Cardinals (1998–2001)
Career highlights and awards
Arizona Cardinals No. 40 retired
Arizona Cardinals Ring of Honor
Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year (1997)
Arizona State Sun Devils No. 42 retired
Career NFL statistics
Tackles: 238
Interceptions: 3
Sacks: 2.5
Forced fumbles: 1
Player stats at NFL.com
College Football Hall of Fame
Patrick Daniel Tillman (November 6, 1976 – April 22, 2004) was a professional American football player in the National Football League (NFL) who left his sports career and enlisted in the United States Army in June 2002 in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. His service in Iraq and Afghanistan, and subsequent death, were the subject of much media attention.[1]
Tillman joined the Army Rangers and served several tours in combat before he died in the mountains of Afghanistan. At first, the Army reported that Tillman had been killed by enemy fire. Controversy ensued when a month later, on May 28, 2004, the Pentagon notified the Tillman family that he had died as a result of a friendly fire incident; the family and other critics allege that the Department of Defense delayed the disclosure for weeks after Tillman's memorial service out of a desire to protect the image of the U.S. military.
Tillman was the first professional football player to be killed in combat since Bob Kalsu, who died in the Vietnam War in 1970. Tillman was posthumously laterally promoted from specialist to corporal. He also received posthumous Silver Star and Purple Heart medals.
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