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Panj wrote-Can you back that up with a credible source, or is it just rightwing talk radio heartburn?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified - Washington Times


Gee, everyone knows that. so what's new? he also turned his information to the FBI but when asked if Trump would do the same, you have no answre?

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Most people would recognize the difference between hiring a British detective and working directly with a foreign power to destabilize the American electoral system

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ATTENTION GOPers!

Emails are close to eternal - everything that was on Hillary's servers is someplace else, and most of them have been recovered and judged to be of no significance by the FBI. That's the same FBI populated by a group of people that skews VERY conservative, investigated Hillary and Bill for over 20 years and found NOTHING they could bring before a Grand Jury, which is lightyears from being evidence that would convict in a trial.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Untrue-Over 200 recovered were Classified or marked Top Secret. Over 30,000 were deemed recoverable. Many Hillary`s emails  were recovered from Podesta and Weiner`s computer and even Comey admitted they were highly sensitive.

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ATTENTION GOPers!

Emails are close to eternal - everything that was on Hillary's servers is someplace else, and most of them have been recovered and judged to be of no significance by the FBI. That's the same FBI populated by a group of people that skews VERY conservative, investigated Hillary and Bill for over 20 years and found NOTHING they could bring before a Grand Jury, which is lightyears from being evidence that would convict in a trial.

 

Donny Bonespurs on the other hand had HIS organization examined for 20 MONTHS, and FIVE of his most senior officials went to JAIL while HE remained unindited ONLY because of a DOJ Policy that said they could not indict a sitting President. The investigation did NOT say lil donny was INNOCENT, it said HE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED BY CONGRESS FOR AT LEAST 10 COUNTS OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

 

donny will lose in 2020, go to jail in 2021. Get used to it.

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Rker wrote-isn't is amazing when they blame Clinton for an issue that they think is bad enough to actually start a thread. when questioned if Trump did the same they will NOT answer?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe your question wasn`t answer because there was no comparison to what Trump did and what Hillary did. Trump did not do anything illegal. Hillary did!!! Trump did not destroy 33,000 emails from an illegal server .Trump did not pay for a fake dossier created from foreign sources. The list of what Hillary did should have been enough to send her to prison for 20 years.  The Mueller Report could not find anything that Trump did wrong or they would have revealed it.  The Barr investigation will reveal the truth and will probably also show that  even Obama knew  of the Russian Hoax.

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State Department identifies 23 violations, 'multiple security incidents' concerning Clinton emails

 

The State Department revealed Monday that it has identified "multiple security incidents" involving current or former employees' handling of Hillary Clinton's emails, and that 23 "violations" and seven "infractions" have been issued as part of the department's ongoing investigation.

 

The information came in a letter to Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, who is responsible for overseeing the security review.

 

"To this point, the Department has assessed culpability to 15 individuals, some of whom were culpable in multiple security incidents," Mary Elizabeth Taylor, the State Department's Assistant Secretary in the Bureau of Legislative Affairs, wrote to Grassley. "DS has issued 23 violations and 7 infractions incidents. ... This number will likely change as the review progresses."

 

The State Department, calling the matter "serious," said it expected to conclude the investigation by Sept. 1. The department acknowledged that the probe was unusually time-consuming.

 

"Given the volume of emails provided to the Department from former Secretary Clinton's private email server, the Department's process has been necessarily more complicated and complex requiring a significant dedication of time and resources," Taylor wrote.

Taylor also noted that disciplinary consequences were pending.

 

"In every instance in which the Department found an individual to be culpable of a valid security violation or three or more infractions, the Department forwarded the outcome to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security's Office of Personnel Security and Suitability (DS/PSS), to be placed in the individuals' official security file," Taylor wrote. "All valid security incidents are reviewed by DS and taken into account every time an individual's eligibility for access to classified information is considered.

 

"This referral occurred whether or not the individual was currently employed with the Department of State and such security files are kept indefinitely," Taylor added. "Consistent with the referral policy, for individuals who were still employed with the Department at the time of adjudication, the Department referred all valid security violations or multiple infractions to the Bureau of Human Resources."

 

The State Department declined to release the names of the employees, consistent with its procedures. The department promised another update once its review is completed.

 

Clinton's private email use has remained in the spotlight, as the DOJ looks into potential misconduct in the handling of federal authorities' surveillance and intelligence operations in 2016. Then-FBI Director James Comey said in 2016 that Clinton's handling of classified information was "extremely careless" -- remarks that were watered down from their original draft -- but that "no reasonable prosecutor" would bring charges.

 

It emerged earlier this year that then-FBI general counsel James Baker testified that he thought Clinton should have been prosecuted until he was convinced otherwise "pretty late" in the investigation.

 

Huma Abedin with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in June 2011. (REUTERS, File)

And, last month, a trove of partially redacted FBI documents from the agency's investigation into whether Clinton mishandled classified information -- a probe known as the "Midyear Exam" -- revealed that top Clinton aides were shocked at apparent attempts to hack her private email servers.

 

The document release revealed numerous episodes in which the Clinton team either suspected it had been hacked or seemingly acknowledged that security measures had come up short.

 

"omg," top Clinton aide Huma Abedin wrote to Justin Cooper, the technology pro overseeing Clinton's private home-based email servers, when he told her shortly after midnight on Jan. 9, 2011, that "someone was trying to hack us."

 

And in March, it was revealed that the Justice Department "negotiated" an agreement with Clinton's legal team that ensured the FBI did not have access to emails on her private servers relating to the Clinton Foundation. Former FBI Agent Peter Strzok testified about the arrangement during a closed-door appearance before the House Judiciary Committee last summer, according to a transcript released this year.

 

"A significant filter team" was employed at the FBI, Strzok said, to "work through the various terms of the various consent agreements." Limitations imposed on agents' searches included date ranges and names of domains and people, Strzok said, among other categories.

 

The agreement was reached, Strzok said, because "according to the attorneys, we lacked probable cause to get a search warrant for those servers and projected that either it would take a very long time and/or it would be impossible to get to the point where we could obtain probable cause to get a warrant."

 

Former Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who chaired the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee until 2017 and is now a Fox News contributor, said the arrangement signaled that agents wanted willful blindness.

 

"What's bizarre about this, is in any other situation, there's no possible way they would allow the potential perpetrator to self-select what the FBI gets to see," Chaffetz said, noting that the FBI was aware that the servers contained classified information in unclassified settings. "The FBI should be the one to sort through those emails -- not the Clinton attorneys."

 

The DOJ's goal, Chaffetz said, was to "make sure they hear no evil, see no evil -- they had no interest in pursuing the truth."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-state-department-violations-security-inciden...

 

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Stay tuned... Tic Toc...

 

 

 


This is about the 10th time you posted this. Why? It was not true the first time and will never be true. Now some real news. How about Trump going wild when he heard from the NY Times that his people were doing cyber warfare on the Russian electrical grid with out his ok. Why did not his people ask for the ok or is going rogue the only way they can defend the US with Trump in Office. Well lets get rid of Trump so they can defend the USA with The President in charge ok.

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State Department identifies 23 violations, 'multiple security incidents' concerning Clinton emails

 

The State Department revealed Monday that it has identified "multiple security incidents" involving current or former employees' handling of Hillary Clinton's emails, and that 23 "violations" and seven "infractions" have been issued as part of the department's ongoing investigation.

 

The information came in a letter to Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, who is responsible for overseeing the security review.

 

"To this point, the Department has assessed culpability to 15 individuals, some of whom were culpable in multiple security incidents," Mary Elizabeth Taylor, the State Department's Assistant Secretary in the Bureau of Legislative Affairs, wrote to Grassley. "DS has issued 23 violations and 7 infractions incidents. ... This number will likely change as the review progresses."

 

The State Department, calling the matter "serious," said it expected to conclude the investigation by Sept. 1. The department acknowledged that the probe was unusually time-consuming.

 

"Given the volume of emails provided to the Department from former Secretary Clinton's private email server, the Department's process has been necessarily more complicated and complex requiring a significant dedication of time and resources," Taylor wrote.

Taylor also noted that disciplinary consequences were pending.

 

"In every instance in which the Department found an individual to be culpable of a valid security violation or three or more infractions, the Department forwarded the outcome to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security's Office of Personnel Security and Suitability (DS/PSS), to be placed in the individuals' official security file," Taylor wrote. "All valid security incidents are reviewed by DS and taken into account every time an individual's eligibility for access to classified information is considered.

 

"This referral occurred whether or not the individual was currently employed with the Department of State and such security files are kept indefinitely," Taylor added. "Consistent with the referral policy, for individuals who were still employed with the Department at the time of adjudication, the Department referred all valid security violations or multiple infractions to the Bureau of Human Resources."

 

The State Department declined to release the names of the employees, consistent with its procedures. The department promised another update once its review is completed.

 

Clinton's private email use has remained in the spotlight, as the DOJ looks into potential misconduct in the handling of federal authorities' surveillance and intelligence operations in 2016. Then-FBI Director James Comey said in 2016 that Clinton's handling of classified information was "extremely careless" -- remarks that were watered down from their original draft -- but that "no reasonable prosecutor" would bring charges.

 

It emerged earlier this year that then-FBI general counsel James Baker testified that he thought Clinton should have been prosecuted until he was convinced otherwise "pretty late" in the investigation.

 

Huma Abedin with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in June 2011. (REUTERS, File)

And, last month, a trove of partially redacted FBI documents from the agency's investigation into whether Clinton mishandled classified information -- a probe known as the "Midyear Exam" -- revealed that top Clinton aides were shocked at apparent attempts to hack her private email servers.

 

The document release revealed numerous episodes in which the Clinton team either suspected it had been hacked or seemingly acknowledged that security measures had come up short.

 

"omg," top Clinton aide Huma Abedin wrote to Justin Cooper, the technology pro overseeing Clinton's private home-based email servers, when he told her shortly after midnight on Jan. 9, 2011, that "someone was trying to hack us."

 

And in March, it was revealed that the Justice Department "negotiated" an agreement with Clinton's legal team that ensured the FBI did not have access to emails on her private servers relating to the Clinton Foundation. Former FBI Agent Peter Strzok testified about the arrangement during a closed-door appearance before the House Judiciary Committee last summer, according to a transcript released this year.

 

"A significant filter team" was employed at the FBI, Strzok said, to "work through the various terms of the various consent agreements." Limitations imposed on agents' searches included date ranges and names of domains and people, Strzok said, among other categories.

 

The agreement was reached, Strzok said, because "according to the attorneys, we lacked probable cause to get a search warrant for those servers and projected that either it would take a very long time and/or it would be impossible to get to the point where we could obtain probable cause to get a warrant."

 

Former Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who chaired the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee until 2017 and is now a Fox News contributor, said the arrangement signaled that agents wanted willful blindness.

 

"What's bizarre about this, is in any other situation, there's no possible way they would allow the potential perpetrator to self-select what the FBI gets to see," Chaffetz said, noting that the FBI was aware that the servers contained classified information in unclassified settings. "The FBI should be the one to sort through those emails -- not the Clinton attorneys."

 

The DOJ's goal, Chaffetz said, was to "make sure they hear no evil, see no evil -- they had no interest in pursuing the truth."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-state-department-violations-security-inciden...

 

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Stay tuned... Tic Toc...

 

 

 

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Isn't is amazing when they blame Clinton for an issue that they think is bad enough to actually start a thread. when questioned if Trump did the same they will NOT answer?  I guess that  they are afraid to answer my question because it would put them in a bad position with their hero by even saying that if he behaved badly he would be accountable.

That is why to discuss anything with them is a gigantic waste of time.

The have not concept of truth and they will not deal with truth or facts. they are completely turned into robots that only spit what they hear without thinking one word that is said.

NO point in wasting time tying to make them see their errors. they have beocome blind.

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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Can you post a link to one of   of your many sources(TV) because I couldn`t find one. Waitinnnng!

I can but will not. You keep looking on TV to all stations but FOX and you will find it. The work will pay off for you in the long run as there is a good chance you will see Trump for what he is a mentally challenged person who is unfit to be President.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Please just One -If you can`t ,just admit it.


Not even 1/2 of one.

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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Can you post a link to one of   of your many sources(TV) because I couldn`t find one. Waitinnnng!

I can but will not. You keep looking on TV to all stations but FOX and you will find it. The work will pay off for you in the long run as there is a good chance you will see Trump for what he is a mentally challenged person who is unfit to be President.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Please just One -If you can`t ,just admit it.

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