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@ChasKy53 wrote:



Whether you like it or not (and you more than obviously don't), they are free to choose whether or not they want to continue to America and seek entrance at our border.


They are free to choose of course, but unless they follow our immigration laws it does not matter what they want.  It's apparent that all they want is to come to this country in spite of being offered a life in Mexico. 

 

 

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None of those being discussed are "illegal aliens" - "right"?  They have a right to come to our border to seek asylum or admittance to our country, yet the right wants to pound on the term "illegal".  Yep, trump's lies have had their effect.


They would be 'illegal' aliens if they don't follow the legal procedures for entering and staying in this country.


"would be" says it all.  If pigs had wings to flap they "would be" flying.


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Mexico has offered all of these migrants residence, almost 3,000 have accepted, these people are welcomed there, but have their eyes on the 'promised land' of our country.


So they were welcomed in Mexico but shouldn't be welcomed here, right?


Illegal aliens who force their way into the U.S. are NOT welcome here - right?


None of those being discussed are "illegal aliens" - "right"?  They have a right to come to our border to seek asylum or admittance to our country, yet the right wants to pound on the term "illegal".  Yep, trump's lies have had their effect.


Maybe you had difficulty reading my previous post? People who are NOT citizens forcing their way into the U.S. are called illegal aliens. If you want to blame Trump for that definition, go ahead, since he and I are both correct!

Those that are orderly and queue up are legal prospective immigrants. Check with Obama on that!


Those in route here have not  tried to "force their way into the U. S.", so they are not "illegal aliens". Your continued use and obsession with the term seems to prove that trump's lies and distortions truly have had their effect.


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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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 If Mexico welcomed them, why shouldn't America?

Apparently they're not getting too good a welcome in Tijuana.  The mayor said they are no longer welcome.  Violence was breaking out there yesterday.


You are the one who siad that Mexico welcomed them and offered for them to stay - - - and that 3,000 of them accepted. Whether you like it or not, they are free to choose to come to our border. They are not "illegals" for doing so.


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@ChasKy53 wrote:


None of those being discussed are "illegal aliens" - "right"?  They have a right to come to our border to seek asylum or admittance to our country, yet the right wants to pound on the term "illegal".  Yep, trump's lies have had their effect.


They would be 'illegal' aliens if they don't follow the legal procedures for entering and staying in this country.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

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They are trained to do what they are directed to. 


Oh?  You mean like "treat rocks being thrown as if it were gunfire"?


I think they will use tear gas, smoke grenades, tasers, and the new active denial access system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmuyLIrSjxI

 

Getting shot is 1990s technology.


But trump said "as if it were gunfire". Smoke grenades are how they deal with gunfire?


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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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You are the one that said Mexico welcomed them and that 3,000 accepted. You didn't answer my question, not surprising.  If Mexico welcomed them, why shouldn't America?

 

Would you choose Mexico or America? They have the right to choose.

 



They claim to be economic refugees and fleeing gangs.  International conventions on refugees state they are to accept asylum in the first country that offers it.  Yet they turn down Mexico, a country similar in language and customs, for the United States.  So are they looking for the profit motive or for asylum; it appears like they think that they are entitled.  When someone offers assistance should they turn it down with eyes on a bigger prize?

 

They are aware of the immigration barriers of this country. 



Whether you like it or not (and you more than obviously don't), they are free to choose whether or not they want to continue to America and seek entrance at our border.


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 

Mexico has offered all of these migrants residence, almost 3,000 have accepted, these people are welcomed there, but have their eyes on the 'promised land' of our country.


So they were welcomed in Mexico but shouldn't be welcomed here, right?


Illegal aliens who force their way into the U.S. are NOT welcome here - right?


None of those being discussed are "illegal aliens" - "right"?  They have a right to come to our border to seek asylum or admittance to our country, yet the right wants to pound on the term "illegal".  Yep, trump's lies have had their effect.


Maybe you had difficulty reading my previous post? People who are NOT citizens forcing their way into the U.S. are called illegal aliens. If you want to blame Trump for that definition, go ahead, since he and I are both correct!

Those that are orderly and queue up are legal prospective immigrants. Check with Obama on that!

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 

Mexico has offered all of these migrants residence, almost 3,000 have accepted, these people are welcomed there, but have their eyes on the 'promised land' of our country.


So they were welcomed in Mexico but shouldn't be welcomed here, right?


Illegal aliens who force their way into the U.S. are NOT welcome here - right?


None of those being discussed are "illegal aliens" - "right"?  They have a right to come to our border to seek asylum or admittance to our country, yet the right wants to pound on the term "illegal".  Yep, trump's lies have had their effect.


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 If Mexico welcomed them, why shouldn't America?

Apparently they're not getting too good a welcome in Tijuana.  The mayor said they are no longer welcome.  Violence was breaking out there yesterday.

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