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The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??


Can you show us where anyone on this Forum has suggested turning our entire economy over to the Government and they distribute money as they see fit

There may be a rule about identifying a poster. Possibly he/she/it will 'fess up. But note that your title blamed Capitalism and affluence - how do you fix that?

 

This College Corruption simply puts the issue of how Rampant Crony Capitalism is in this Country in front of everyone in a easy to understand very close to home Scenario

Yes, it is obvious that the college admission system needs looking into.

 

Most of us have children - we have experienced first hand trying to save & sacrifice & ask our Children to do the same so they can be as competitive as possible

True.

 

After all that we learn - mick studers kids who actually played & excelled at sports - spent extra hours & hours to become excellent academically - got bumped by someone willing to put up Benjamin's in place of expecting hard work from their own children & Colleges who willingly colluded to receive the extra Benjamin's

We don't know that.

 

At the same time the mick studers of the world have to listen to those in the Trump Cult tell us - WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH WE CRAVE ENTITLEMENT

There is no "Trump Cult" involved in this. Remember, this was the Hollywood left that is constantly telling those you call the "Trump Cult" how bad we are.

 

 

 


 


Sometimes - MEH - is all anyone can reasonably respond with

 

This Photo is of - TPG Growth founder Bill McGlashan - Bill McGlashan, a founder and managing partner at TPG Growth — which has made landmark investments in companies like Uber and Airbnbindicted on fraud allegations for trying to engineer the admission of his son to the University of Southern California.

 

HARDLY A - HOLLYWOOD LEFTY

 

 

College Tuition Scam.png

 

What is particularly damaging for TPG is that McGlashan has positioned himself as a leading voice in Silicon Valley for social responsibility. In addition to overseeing TPG’s late-stage growth investing arm, McGlashan has partnered with other conscious leaders like Bono and Laurene Powell Jobs at The Rise Fund, a TPG investing arm that tries to make the world a better place through investments in things like dairy farms in India.

 

Others indicted included

 

Agustin Huneeus, who operates a vineyard in Napa Valley

 

Douglas Hodge, former CEO of Pimco investment

 

Manuel Henriquez, chairman of Hercules Technology Growth Capital

 

Robert Flaxman, founder of Crown Realty & Development;

 

Robert Zangrillo of the investment company, Dragon Global.

 

Source - https://www.kcet.org/shows/socal-connected/college-admissions-scandal-involved-bribery-cheating-and-...

 

So again you very colorfully seem to find the problem to be Capitalism and affluence - any solutions??



It's a US Cultural Issue - it revolves around the - Fracturing of American Civil Society beginning with the Election of Trump

 

Trump ran on Exposing the Crimes Against the Working Man by the Elite and the Trump Cult Bought it

 

Promising to Drain the Swamp - Put Some Accountability & Fairness Back into Wall Street The IRS and Big Business

 

Because Trump said - as a successful US Businessman he knew all the tricks and would expose & eliminate them and the Trump Cult Bought it

 

TRUMPS DONE NONE OF THAT - ALL HIS CABINET IS FROM - WALL STREET

 

Americans have been conditioned to accept Apathy as a illness who knows No Cure

 

This Apathy that allows 43% of the Country to Accept Anything Trump Does or Says Without Question - Even When They Would Never Accept Such Bad Behavior or Repeated Deceit From Their Own Family & Friends has destroyed Americans Independence

 

Right Here on this Forum - Trump Cult Members Lie & Deceive Their Fellow Americans Daily by trying to infect others with the Meme that Democratic Socialism is Marxism & Communism

 

It's Not - Republican President Eisenhauer and Reagan both supported Major Social Programs that are now being Demonized by Trump & parroted by the Trump Cult as Socialism

 

ONE SOLUTION - Demand Honesty & Fact Based Discussion & Debate

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@rk9152 I ask you, what are your ideas or suggestions?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??


Can you show us where anyone on this Forum has suggested turning our entire economy over to the Government and they distribute money as they see fit

There may be a rule about identifying a poster. Possibly he/she/it will 'fess up. But note that your title blamed Capitalism and affluence - how do you fix that?

 

This College Corruption simply puts the issue of how Rampant Crony Capitalism is in this Country in front of everyone in a easy to understand very close to home Scenario

Yes, it is obvious that the college admission system needs looking into.

 

Most of us have children - we have experienced first hand trying to save & sacrifice & ask our Children to do the same so they can be as competitive as possible

True.

 

After all that we learn - mick studers kids who actually played & excelled at sports - spent extra hours & hours to become excellent academically - got bumped by someone willing to put up Benjamin's in place of expecting hard work from their own children & Colleges who willingly colluded to receive the extra Benjamin's

We don't know that.

 

At the same time the mick studers of the world have to listen to those in the Trump Cult tell us - WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH WE CRAVE ENTITLEMENT

There is no "Trump Cult" involved in this. Remember, this was the Hollywood left that is constantly telling those you call the "Trump Cult" how bad we are.

 

 

 


 


Sometimes - MEH - is all anyone can reasonably respond with

 

This Photo is of - TPG Growth founder Bill McGlashan - Bill McGlashan, a founder and managing partner at TPG Growth — which has made landmark investments in companies like Uber and Airbnbindicted on fraud allegations for trying to engineer the admission of his son to the University of Southern California.

 

HARDLY A - HOLLYWOOD LEFTY

 

 

College Tuition Scam.png

 

What is particularly damaging for TPG is that McGlashan has positioned himself as a leading voice in Silicon Valley for social responsibility. In addition to overseeing TPG’s late-stage growth investing arm, McGlashan has partnered with other conscious leaders like Bono and Laurene Powell Jobs at The Rise Fund, a TPG investing arm that tries to make the world a better place through investments in things like dairy farms in India.

 

Others indicted included

 

Agustin Huneeus, who operates a vineyard in Napa Valley

 

Douglas Hodge, former CEO of Pimco investment

 

Manuel Henriquez, chairman of Hercules Technology Growth Capital

 

Robert Flaxman, founder of Crown Realty & Development;

 

Robert Zangrillo of the investment company, Dragon Global.

 

Source - https://www.kcet.org/shows/socal-connected/college-admissions-scandal-involved-bribery-cheating-and-...

 

So again you very colorfully seem to find the problem to be Capitalism and affluence - any solutions??



So, I ask, what is wrong with getting the money of corporations and the top wealthiest (limit the amount of campaign contributions one can make) out of our voting and government by Citizens United?  What power would super pac's have and lobbyist if they no longer rule the government and what about some more powerful regulations? I do believe that when institutions/corporations are given so much power over the people with their "affluence and influence" we will continue to find greed and corruption.  Maybe we have come to the time of a citizen controlled oversight establishment to report continually to the people where boundaries have been overstepped (keeping the right and left in check)? Why not stiff fines on any false propaganda/information that gets into our lives?

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

We all know that’s how Jared Kushner got into Harvard. Why isn’t his father charged for that? 


Statute of Limitations.

 

The lesson learned by looking at Jared is those "elite" schools do NOT provide a vastly superior EDUCATION. They provide an unparralled access to the CONTACTS that insure financial success no matter your academic achievements.

 

Which is an even bigger reason to end such practices - it sends the ignorant and willfully ignorant to the "head of the line" where they make disasterous decisions like the ones that destroyed the World economy in 2008.

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??


Can you show us where anyone on this Forum has suggested turning our entire economy over to the Government and they distribute money as they see fit

There may be a rule about identifying a poster. Possibly he/she/it will 'fess up. But note that your title blamed Capitalism and affluence - how do you fix that?

 

This College Corruption simply puts the issue of how Rampant Crony Capitalism is in this Country in front of everyone in a easy to understand very close to home Scenario

Yes, it is obvious that the college admission system needs looking into.

 

Most of us have children - we have experienced first hand trying to save & sacrifice & ask our Children to do the same so they can be as competitive as possible

True.

 

After all that we learn - mick studers kids who actually played & excelled at sports - spent extra hours & hours to become excellent academically - got bumped by someone willing to put up Benjamin's in place of expecting hard work from their own children & Colleges who willingly colluded to receive the extra Benjamin's

We don't know that.

 

At the same time the mick studers of the world have to listen to those in the Trump Cult tell us - WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH WE CRAVE ENTITLEMENT

There is no "Trump Cult" involved in this. Remember, this was the Hollywood left that is constantly telling those you call the "Trump Cult" how bad we are.

 

 

 


 


Sometimes - MEH - is all anyone can reasonably respond with

 

This Photo is of - TPG Growth founder Bill McGlashan - Bill McGlashan, a founder and managing partner at TPG Growth — which has made landmark investments in companies like Uber and Airbnbindicted on fraud allegations for trying to engineer the admission of his son to the University of Southern California.

 

HARDLY A - HOLLYWOOD LEFTY

 

 

College Tuition Scam.png

 

What is particularly damaging for TPG is that McGlashan has positioned himself as a leading voice in Silicon Valley for social responsibility. In addition to overseeing TPG’s late-stage growth investing arm, McGlashan has partnered with other conscious leaders like Bono and Laurene Powell Jobs at The Rise Fund, a TPG investing arm that tries to make the world a better place through investments in things like dairy farms in India.

 

Others indicted included

 

Agustin Huneeus, who operates a vineyard in Napa Valley

 

Douglas Hodge, former CEO of Pimco investment

 

Manuel Henriquez, chairman of Hercules Technology Growth Capital

 

Robert Flaxman, founder of Crown Realty & Development;

 

Robert Zangrillo of the investment company, Dragon Global.

 

Source - https://www.kcet.org/shows/socal-connected/college-admissions-scandal-involved-bribery-cheating-and-...

 

So again you very colorfully seem to find the problem to be Capitalism and affluence - any solutions??


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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??


Can you show us where anyone on this Forum has suggested turning our entire economy over to the Government and they distribute money as they see fit

There may be a rule about identifying a poster. Possibly he/she/it will 'fess up. But note that your title blamed Capitalism and affluence - how do you fix that?

 

This College Corruption simply puts the issue of how Rampant Crony Capitalism is in this Country in front of everyone in a easy to understand very close to home Scenario

Yes, it is obvious that the college admission system needs looking into.

 

Most of us have children - we have experienced first hand trying to save & sacrifice & ask our Children to do the same so they can be as competitive as possible

True.

 

After all that we learn - mick studers kids who actually played & excelled at sports - spent extra hours & hours to become excellent academically - got bumped by someone willing to put up Benjamin's in place of expecting hard work from their own children & Colleges who willingly colluded to receive the extra Benjamin's

We don't know that.

 

At the same time the mick studers of the world have to listen to those in the Trump Cult tell us - WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH WE CRAVE ENTITLEMENT

There is no "Trump Cult" involved in this. Remember, this was the Hollywood left that is constantly telling those you call the "Trump Cult" how bad we are.

 

 

 


 


Sometimes - MEH - is all anyone can reasonably respond with

 

This Photo is of - TPG Growth founder Bill McGlashan - Bill McGlashan, a founder and managing partner at TPG Growth — which has made landmark investments in companies like Uber and Airbnbindicted on fraud allegations for trying to engineer the admission of his son to the University of Southern California.

 

HARDLY A - HOLLYWOOD LEFTY

 

 

College Tuition Scam.png

 

What is particularly damaging for TPG is that McGlashan has positioned himself as a leading voice in Silicon Valley for social responsibility. In addition to overseeing TPG’s late-stage growth investing arm, McGlashan has partnered with other conscious leaders like Bono and Laurene Powell Jobs at The Rise Fund, a TPG investing arm that tries to make the world a better place through investments in things like dairy farms in India.

 

Others indicted included

 

Agustin Huneeus, who operates a vineyard in Napa Valley

 

Douglas Hodge, former CEO of Pimco investment

 

Manuel Henriquez, chairman of Hercules Technology Growth Capital

 

Robert Flaxman, founder of Crown Realty & Development;

 

Robert Zangrillo of the investment company, Dragon Global.

 

Source - https://www.kcet.org/shows/socal-connected/college-admissions-scandal-involved-bribery-cheating-and-...

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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" - Anonymous

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??


Can you show us where anyone on this Forum has suggested turning our entire economy over to the Government and they distribute money as they see fit

There may be a rule about identifying a poster. Possibly he/she/it will 'fess up. But note that your title blamed Capitalism and affluence - how do you fix that?

 

This College Corruption simply puts the issue of how Rampant Crony Capitalism is in this Country in front of everyone in a easy to understand very close to home Scenario

Yes, it is obvious that the college admission system needs looking into.

 

Most of us have children - we have experienced first hand trying to save & sacrifice & ask our Children to do the same so they can be as competitive as possible

True.

 

After all that we learn - mick studers kids who actually played & excelled at sports - spent extra hours & hours to become excellent academically - got bumped by someone willing to put up Benjamin's in place of expecting hard work from their own children & Colleges who willingly colluded to receive the extra Benjamin's

We don't know that.

 

At the same time the mick studers of the world have to listen to those in the Trump Cult tell us - WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH WE CRAVE ENTITLEMENT

There is no "Trump Cult" involved in this. Remember, this was the Hollywood left that is constantly telling those you call the "Trump Cult" how bad we are.

 

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??


Can you show us where anyone on this Forum has suggested turning our entire economy over to the Government and they distribute money as they see fit

 

This College Corruption simply puts the issue of how Rampant Crony Capitalism is in this Country in front of everyone in a easy to understand very close to home Scenario

 

Most of us have children - we have experienced first hand trying to save & sacrifice & ask our Children to do the same so they can be as competitive as possible

 

After all that we learn - mick studers kids who actually played & excelled at sports - spent extra hours & hours to become excellent academically - got bumped by someone willing to put up Benjamin's in place of expecting hard work from their own children & Colleges who willingly colluded to receive the extra Benjamin's

 

At the same time the mick studers of the world have to listen to those in the Trump Cult tell us - WE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES DEMONSTRATING HOW MUCH WE CRAVE ENTITLEMENT

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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" - Anonymous

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The issue is the ease with which seats in these colleges can be bought - certainly that has to be corrected.

 

But, interestingly some see it an issue of Capitalism and affluence. Certainly, one solution would be to follow the model offered by one poster in which the government owns all money and distributes it as it sees fit.

 

That would certainly screw up our very successful economic model and - can anyone guarantee that such a system would be corruption free??

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SURE - LETS FAKE A LEARNING DISABILITY AS WE BUY OUR WAY INTO COLLEGE
 
Worst of all, according to the charging documents, some parents worked with Singer to get their child falsely diagnosed with a learning disability so they could be provided with a reasonable accommodation for extra time and a quiet space for the test and Singer could swap out an official proctor with someone on his payroll.
 
For example, the complaint includes an alleged conversation between Singer and Gordon Caplan, the co-chair of a massive international law firm, Wilkie Farr & Gallagher.
 
Singer explained that Caplan's daughter would meet with a psychologist on his payroll, but that she would need to "be stupid" in order to get diagnosed with learning disabilities.
 
Then she would be able to fly out to Los Angeles and take the test with Singer's corrupt proctor. Best of all, Singer allegedly promised, Caplan's daughter would also then be able to use her fake diagnosis to get extra time throughout her college career.
 
According to the transcript released by the Justice Department, Singer told Caplan, "What happened is, all the wealthy families that figured out that if I get my kid tested and they get extended time, they can do better on the test. So most of these kids don't even have issues, but they're getting time. The playing field is not fair."
 
 
 

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