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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@Laurie42010 wrote:
Olderscout...your last post speaks loud and thank you. What many of the boomers and republicans do not understand is that the jobs that the generations following them didn't have the benefits like retirement options...welcome the 401k type programs...but many no longer had paid or mostly paid health insurance benefits and therefore, had to have that taken out of the monthly budget...results being no money to put into the retirement accounts. It was taking all they had in their pay to live payday to payday. Now, with the millenials and younger, they have outrageous student loan debts to pay before they can even "start" living that so called American dream. Huh...nice set up for generations that follow, no?

Thanks for the support.

People refuse to see the connection between the drastic reductions in the top tax brackets and the fact those formerly in those brackets are simply keeping all the profits for themselves.

 

The Reagan taxscam and subsequent Republican moves to further reduce the taxes for the top 10% have not only shifted all the profits once shared by the workers into the pockets of the top 10%, it "starved" the Federal Government of the funds that had been keeping college affordable and State and local taxes low because of REVENUE SHARING. Republicans made sure State and Local taxes could never keep up with the lost Federal support, so all the things Government provided to our parents and Grandparents are GONE, and we now have each generation of Americans doing WORSE than the generation before.

 

I've yet to see anyone on the Right explain how things are better now for the bottom 90%, just that making them better (as We the People did from 1936 until 1980) was SOCIALIST and had to be stopped.

 

I cannot believe those folks actually think somehow increasing Corporate Profits will lead to a better life for all Americans. They calim to be "Capitalists", but they totally ignore the wise words of one of Capitalism's greatest pundits - Milton Freedman who pointed out long ago " The ONLY moral imparetive for the Corporate manager is to maximize profits for the owners."

 

Corporations are not people and THEY will NEVER make things better for the average American - in fact, for the last 43 years, they've made things decidedly WORSE. The only agent of Change that has improved things for all Americans is OUR GOVERNMENT. If we leave it in the hands of the Republicans, that will NEVER happen - its just totally opposed to their way of thinking and acting.


Do you disagree with Milton Friedman (or his cousin Milton Freedman)?


I do agree with Friedman's assertion that -"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand".

 

It's necessary to remember that Friedman was awarded the Nobel Prize back in the days when we had not yet learned that there was no necessity for a deity to start the process of creation - back when most did not realize that the bible was not absolutely inerrant - back when no right wingers had the intellect to realize that H.Sapiens and Chimpanzees are in fact 99% genetically identical - back before it was realized that there are more than a billion times more suns and many millions times more galaxies than imagined...

 

 In short - it was back when people still believed the same ludicrous and imaginary fairy tale nonsense that tRump and his backward Klan of droogs persist in believing today...

 

Yes - there are fools that implicitly believe Frieman's nearly half-century old ideas are accurate and truthful - 43 years later - yep - the description is fatuously credible...

 

Stupid is as trump Klan followers, supporters, and droogs believe...

 

 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@Laurie42010 wrote:
Olderscout...your last post speaks loud and thank you. What many of the boomers and republicans do not understand is that the jobs that the generations following them didn't have the benefits like retirement options...welcome the 401k type programs...but many no longer had paid or mostly paid health insurance benefits and therefore, had to have that taken out of the monthly budget...results being no money to put into the retirement accounts. It was taking all they had in their pay to live payday to payday. Now, with the millenials and younger, they have outrageous student loan debts to pay before they can even "start" living that so called American dream. Huh...nice set up for generations that follow, no?

Thanks for the support.

People refuse to see the connection between the drastic reductions in the top tax brackets and the fact those formerly in those brackets are simply keeping all the profits for themselves.

 

The Reagan taxscam and subsequent Republican moves to further reduce the taxes for the top 10% have not only shifted all the profits once shared by the workers into the pockets of the top 10%, it "starved" the Federal Government of the funds that had been keeping college affordable and State and local taxes low because of REVENUE SHARING. Republicans made sure State and Local taxes could never keep up with the lost Federal support, so all the things Government provided to our parents and Grandparents are GONE, and we now have each generation of Americans doing WORSE than the generation before.

 

I've yet to see anyone on the Right explain how things are better now for the bottom 90%, just that making them better (as We the People did from 1936 until 1980) was SOCIALIST and had to be stopped.

 

I cannot believe those folks actually think somehow increasing Corporate Profits will lead to a better life for all Americans. They calim to be "Capitalists", but they totally ignore the wise words of one of Capitalism's greatest pundits - Milton Freedman who pointed out long ago " The ONLY moral imparetive for the Corporate manager is to maximize profits for the owners."

 

Corporations are not people and THEY will NEVER make things better for the average American - in fact, for the last 43 years, they've made things decidedly WORSE. The only agent of Change that has improved things for all Americans is OUR GOVERNMENT. If we leave it in the hands of the Republicans, that will NEVER happen - its just totally opposed to their way of thinking and acting.


Do you disagree with Milton Friedman (or his cousin Milton Freedman)?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

Another trump supporter fantasy cartoon!

The reality is that trump has planted a number of land mines in our economic path for the future...which ones will go off first?

 

tax returns donnie


Just as it was with the last republican president we had, the housing market land mine will be the first to go off. That handwriting is on the wall.

 

Only if the Dems can, again, succeed in placing many thousands of people in houses they can't afford and have the bankers take big risks on the promise that the government will back them.

 

 


 


Uh huh. I don't think it was Democrats forcing Wall Street to ignore the risky subprime loans they were bundling as mortgage back securities, and then issued bonds using those mortgage back securities as their collateral. And while people were being thrown out of their homes, Wall Street was giving themselves bonuses with the TARP bailout money.

 

 


It was the Dems pushing for people unable to pay for homes to have them (and yes, Bush too). When Freddie and Fannie went too  far, it was the Dems (Maxine Waters etal defending them). When Bush warned about the potential coming problems in the housing he was ignored by the Dems.

 

Yes, there was TARP and there was Obama's near 100 billion dollar bail out package that gave us an understanding that those shovel ready jobs weren't all that shovel ready and the Tesla fiasco.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

That is quite deep (and accurate) for those willing to consider it with an open mind. But what are the odds?


To consider that a deep and accurate meme one would have to have such an open mind that the wind whistles through unabated.


And those without an open mind will just ignore the message and send out insults.


So why did you just ignore the real messsage?


So was the "real message" something about wind whistling?


So you did notice the wind whistling. 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

Another trump supporter fantasy cartoon!

The reality is that trump has planted a number of land mines in our economic path for the future...which ones will go off first?

 

tax returns donnie


Just as it was with the last republican president we had, the housing market land mine will be the first to go off. That handwriting is on the wall.

 

Only if the Dems can, again, succeed in placing many thousands of people in houses they can't afford and have the bankers take big risks on the promise that the government will back them.

 

 


 


The financial land mine comprised of bogus home loans and bundled bad loans went off on September 18, 2008 - that's about a month-and-a-half before the election that Obama won - and three and a half months before Obama took the reins of office and started to fix the "bleep-up" that Dubya and his dishonest republican/conservative buddies constructed and lit the fuse on during Dubya's administration...

 

Of course - the clinically fascinating memory processes of tRump cult "magats" will claim that things happened in a different way - as described in the alternative reality...

 

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@Laurie42010 wrote:
Olderscout...your last post speaks loud and thank you. What many of the boomers and republicans do not understand is that the jobs that the generations following them didn't have the benefits like retirement options...welcome the 401k type programs...but many no longer had paid or mostly paid health insurance benefits and therefore, had to have that taken out of the monthly budget...results being no money to put into the retirement accounts. It was taking all they had in their pay to live payday to payday. Now, with the millenials and younger, they have outrageous student loan debts to pay before they can even "start" living that so called American dream. Huh...nice set up for generations that follow, no?

Thanks for the support.

People refuse to see the connection between the drastic reductions in the top tax brackets and the fact those formerly in those brackets are simply keeping all the profits for themselves.

 

The Reagan taxscam and subsequent Republican moves to further reduce the taxes for the top 10% have not only shifted all the profits once shared by the workers into the pockets of the top 10%, it "starved" the Federal Government of the funds that had been keeping college affordable and State and local taxes low because of REVENUE SHARING. Republicans made sure State and Local taxes could never keep up with the lost Federal support, so all the things Government provided to our parents and Grandparents are GONE, and we now have each generation of Americans doing WORSE than the generation before.

 

I've yet to see anyone on the Right explain how things are better now for the bottom 90%, just that making them better (as We the People did from 1936 until 1980) was SOCIALIST and had to be stopped.

 

I cannot believe those folks actually think somehow increasing Corporate Profits will lead to a better life for all Americans. They calim to be "Capitalists", but they totally ignore the wise words of one of Capitalism's greatest pundits - Milton Freedman who pointed out long ago " The ONLY moral imparetive for the Corporate manager is to maximize profits for the owners."

 

Corporations are not people and THEY will NEVER make things better for the average American - in fact, for the last 43 years, they've made things decidedly WORSE. The only agent of Change that has improved things for all Americans is OUR GOVERNMENT. If we leave it in the hands of the Republicans, that will NEVER happen - its just totally opposed to their way of thinking and acting.

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When or IF     the economy is growing then , its leaders should cut back spending and raise taxes.  

      Economist agree on that.   

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UH ---- those "LIBERAL IDEAS "   About the Role of WE THE PEOPLE who are the GOVT. ruin everything  ! !      

  American  conservatives,   diverge from modern liberal thought, holding that economic freedom is more important than equality and that providing for the general welfare exceeds the legitimate role of government.       

Modern liberalism in the United States includes issues such as same-sex marriage, reproductive and other women's rights, voting rights for all adult citizens, civil rights, environmental justice and government protection of freedom from want.      National social services such as equal education opportunities, access to health care and transportation infrastructure are intended to meet the responsibility to promote the general welfare of all citizens as established by the Constitution.  

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@rk9152 wrote:

@BigLib wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

Another trump supporter fantasy cartoon!

The reality is that trump has planted a number of land mines in our economic path for the future...which ones will go off first?

 

tax returns donnie


Just as it was with the last republican president we had, the housing market land mine will be the first to go off. That handwriting is on the wall.

 

Only if the Dems can, again, succeed in placing many thousands of people in houses they can't afford and have the bankers take big risks on the promise that the government will back them.

 

 


 


Uh huh. I don't think it was Democrats forcing Wall Street to ignore the risky subprime loans they were bundling as mortgage back securities, and then issued bonds using those mortgage back securities as their collateral. And while people were being thrown out of their homes, Wall Street was giving themselves bonuses with the TARP bailout money.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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@BigLib wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

Another trump supporter fantasy cartoon!

The reality is that trump has planted a number of land mines in our economic path for the future...which ones will go off first?

 

tax returns donnie


Just as it was with the last republican president we had, the housing market land mine will be the first to go off. That handwriting is on the wall.

 

Only if the Dems can, again, succeed in placing many thousands of people in houses they can't afford and have the bankers take big risks on the promise that the government will back them.

 

 


 

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