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@Controlled42010 wrote:

Great points Olderscout.  Ahh, just part of that American dream....make money...so what if it is in the killing industry, no?


@Olderscout66 wrote:

The reason Republicans love War is the magical way it transfers money from the middle class into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

To begin, the Government gives TRILLIONS to the Death Merchants for the Weapons of War.

 

Death Merchants pay their workers not enough to have any savings and give all the profits to their Management. This has been going on since the early 1970's, back in 1964 the average worker's savings rate was 10% of income, today it's at or near ZERO, with Payday Loans and credit card usuary driving the rate for the bottom 40% into negative numbers.

 

NOTHING produced by the Death Merchants shows up in the consumer market, so all those dollars the workers spend are driving up prices for the goods that ARE available, creating inflation and causing the worker's real income to DECREASE.

 

The Management already had more than enough to cover their consumption spending, so all their income increase goes to sterile investments in existing stocks and realestate, further growing their Wealth.

 

The increased demand for the stocks bonds and realestate drive up those prices, reducing the ability of the middle class to make those "wealth inhancing" purchases. The increased profits from the higher prices for consumer goods also flow into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

Houses transform from Family Homes into Rental Property, the rents paid by the middle class go to the Uberrich

 

In short, the nice NO DRAFT Wars jrbush lied us into have been WONDERFUL for the top 10%, who seldom if ever show up to fight in those wars, because of how it drives up THEIR income AND wealth, and speeds the redistribution from the middle to the Top, driving us toward a neo-feudal State with workers dependant on their boss for their survival, and therefore in no position to demand a fair share of the profits they create.


 


Of course when a nation finds it necessary to go to war the tools of war will be needed and must be manufactured by those with the capability. But what has that to do with neo-feudal state, wealth distribution, Uberrich, rental homes, the end of the draft, the stock market, payday loans, workers pay in 1964?

 

At least he left out the "Reagan tax scam".

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rk9152 says ,"Just to clarify - I am a registered Republican and I do not "love War". To say such a thing is highly offensive."

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If that offends you , you better get ready to bury your head in the sand or at least only listen to Faux "news" because IF Mueller's and the SDNY findings get out , it may be very offensive to registered Republican's.


What has Mueller's report and what TV station a person watches have to do with loving war???

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Great points Olderscout.  Ahh, just part of that American dream....make money...so what if it is in the killing industry, no?


@Olderscout66 wrote:

The reason Republicans love War is the magical way it transfers money from the middle class into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

To begin, the Government gives TRILLIONS to the Death Merchants for the Weapons of War.

 

Death Merchants pay their workers not enough to have any savings and give all the profits to their Management. This has been going on since the early 1970's, back in 1964 the average worker's savings rate was 10% of income, today it's at or near ZERO, with Payday Loans and credit card usuary driving the rate for the bottom 40% into negative numbers.

 

NOTHING produced by the Death Merchants shows up in the consumer market, so all those dollars the workers spend are driving up prices for the goods that ARE available, creating inflation and causing the worker's real income to DECREASE.

 

The Management already had more than enough to cover their consumption spending, so all their income increase goes to sterile investments in existing stocks and realestate, further growing their Wealth.

 

The increased demand for the stocks bonds and realestate drive up those prices, reducing the ability of the middle class to make those "wealth inhancing" purchases. The increased profits from the higher prices for consumer goods also flow into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

Houses transform from Family Homes into Rental Property, the rents paid by the middle class go to the Uberrich

 

In short, the nice NO DRAFT Wars jrbush lied us into have been WONDERFUL for the top 10%, who seldom if ever show up to fight in those wars, because of how it drives up THEIR income AND wealth, and speeds the redistribution from the middle to the Top, driving us toward a neo-feudal State with workers dependant on their boss for their survival, and therefore in no position to demand a fair share of the profits they create.


 

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rk9152 says ,"Just to clarify - I am a registered Republican and I do not "love War". To say such a thing is highly offensive."

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If that offends you , you better get ready to bury your head in the sand or at least only listen to Faux "news" because IF Mueller's and the SDNY findings get out , it may be very offensive to registered Republican's.

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I wonder how many in Gov't bought Haliburton Stock before the Iraq Invasion ? Vice President Cheney's Haliburton Pension sure got a boost.

It's all about $$$ over Morality for some. 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

The reason Republicans love War is the magical way it transfers money from the middle class into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

To begin, the Government gives TRILLIONS to the Death Merchants for the Weapons of War.

 

Death Merchants pay their workers not enough to have any savings and give all the profits to their Management. This has been going on since the early 1970's, back in 1964 the average worker's savings rate was 10% of income, today it's at or near ZERO, with Payday Loans and credit card usuary driving the rate for the bottom 40% into negative numbers.

 

NOTHING produced by the Death Merchants shows up in the consumer market, so all those dollars the workers spend are driving up prices for the goods that ARE available, creating inflation and causing the worker's real income to DECREASE.

 

The Management already had more than enough to cover their consumption spending, so all their income increase goes to sterile investments in existing stocks and realestate, further growing their Wealth.

 

The increased demand for the stocks bonds and realestate drive up those prices, reducing the ability of the middle class to make those "wealth inhancing" purchases. The increased profits from the higher prices for consumer goods also flow into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

Houses transform from Family Homes into Rental Property, the rents paid by the middle class go to the Uberrich

 

In short, the nice NO DRAFT Wars jrbush lied us into have been WONDERFUL for the top 10%, who seldom if ever show up to fight in those wars, because of how it drives up THEIR income AND wealth, and speeds the redistribution from the middle to the Top, driving us toward a neo-feudal State with workers dependant on their boss for their survival, and therefore in no position to demand a fair share of the profits they create.


Just to clarify - I am a registered Republican and I do not "love War". To say such a thing is highly offensive. 

 

And that is a strange way to get into to the repetitive rant about payday loans.

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The reason Republicans love War is the magical way it transfers money from the middle class into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

To begin, the Government gives TRILLIONS to the Death Merchants for the Weapons of War.

 

Death Merchants pay their workers not enough to have any savings and give all the profits to their Management. This has been going on since the early 1970's, back in 1964 the average worker's savings rate was 10% of income, today it's at or near ZERO, with Payday Loans and credit card usuary driving the rate for the bottom 40% into negative numbers.

 

NOTHING produced by the Death Merchants shows up in the consumer market, so all those dollars the workers spend are driving up prices for the goods that ARE available, creating inflation and causing the worker's real income to DECREASE.

 

The Management already had more than enough to cover their consumption spending, so all their income increase goes to sterile investments in existing stocks and realestate, further growing their Wealth.

 

The increased demand for the stocks bonds and realestate drive up those prices, reducing the ability of the middle class to make those "wealth inhancing" purchases. The increased profits from the higher prices for consumer goods also flow into the pockets of the Uberrich.

 

Houses transform from Family Homes into Rental Property, the rents paid by the middle class go to the Uberrich

 

In short, the nice NO DRAFT Wars jrbush lied us into have been WONDERFUL for the top 10%, who seldom if ever show up to fight in those wars, because of how it drives up THEIR income AND wealth, and speeds the redistribution from the middle to the Top, driving us toward a neo-feudal State with workers dependant on their boss for their survival, and therefore in no position to demand a fair share of the profits they create.

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I am sure when we liberated Kuwait, that wasn't cheap either. I wonder if we ever saw any compensation for our efforts.

 

The cost of the war (Kuwait) to the United States was calculated by the US Congress in April 1992 to be $61.1 billion (equivalent to $96.5 billion in 2016).
About $52 billion of that amount was paid by other countries:

 

  • $36 billion by Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Arab states of the Persian Gulf
  • $16 billion by Germany and Japan (which sent no combat forces due to their constitutions).

About 25% of Saudi Arabia's contribution was paid in the form of in-kind services to the troops, such as food and transportation.
US troops represented about 74% of the combined force, and the global cost was therefore higher.

 

There were other "costs" of the war which included oil imports, remittance flows, re-settlement costs, loss of export earnings and tourism.

 

  • For Egypt, the cost totaled $1 billion, 3% of GDP.
  • Yemen had a cost of $830 million, 10% of GDP
  • It cost Jordan $1.8 billion, 32% of GDP.

In the case of the Iraq War (George W. Bush), I thought we should have paid reparations to Iraq along with a written apology since our invasion was based on false pretenses (lies):

 

  • There were no weapons of mass destruction.
  • There were no Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
  • Iraq was not part of the planned terrorist attack on 911.

 

 

"Powerful politicians dishonor the sacrifices made by every one of our service members, and their families - they are the ones who pay the price for these wars.

In fact, all Americans pay the price for these wars that have cost us trillions of dollars since 9/11.


Every dollar that we spend on regime change wars or the new cold war and nuclear arms race is a dollar coming from our pockets … dollars that should be used to meet the needs of our people and our communities here at home.
We must stand united and stand strong against those in both parties who never tire of war -- neolibs and neocons dragging us from one regime change war to the next, exacerbating the New Cold War, and pushing us to the brink of a nuclear war.
We deserve better. Our country deserves better." - Tulsi Gabbard

 

 

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@n566192l wrote:

I am sure when we liberated Kuwait, that wasn't cheap either. I wonder if we ever saw any compensation for our efforts.


I know they did. Just liked the pants on fire comment made when Trump said they didn't.

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I am sure when we liberated Kuwait, that wasn't cheap either. I wonder if we ever saw any compensation for our efforts.

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