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@Tom5678 wrote:
looking forward to finding out just how deeply she penetrated the NRA and her close ties to some Republicans along the way. Russia just keeps on doing dirty work in the country in many interesting areas.

How can an Honest, Honorable and Patriotic American Citizen tell whether or not a republican/conservative/trump supporter isn't an in-the-closet supporter of trump/Putin/Butina?

 

Answer - an Honest, Honorable, and Patriotic American Citizen cannot tell for sure...

 

As the entire world has seen - the prez lies shamelessly - as does Sirah Huckstering Slanders, and a great many of his staff...

 

How many of his "best people" have admitted to lying?

 

Is there any reason not to conclude that lying is a republican/conservative/trump supporter value?

 

Nope - no reason...

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   The millenials are great !    

 

    David Hogg sent his 'thoughts and prayers to the NRA PR team. 

 

  https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/421291-parklands-hogg-sends-thoughts-and-prayers-t...

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@Tom5678 wrote:
looking forward to finding out just how deeply she penetrated the NRA and her close ties to some Republicans along the way. Russia just keeps on doing dirty work in the country in many interesting areas.

They may have "got some". What do you care how close they got (unless you are married to one of them)?

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looking forward to finding out just how deeply she penetrated the NRA and her close ties to some Republicans along the way. Russia just keeps on doing dirty work in the country in many interesting areas.
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mickstuder:  Yes - Very True - The Russian Spy Butina Started Her Activities Grooming Republicans Way B4 Trump was Elected............................

 

 

 

Yep, the Rebuplican/Russia association didn't begin with Trump. The Russians knew who was for sale and went after them. I guess the next question should be, is were they unknowingly infiltrated, or were the Russians invited?

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@Panjandrum wrote:

mickstuder:  WHY ARE THE RUSSIANS ONLY TARGETING REPUBLICANS?

 

 

Good question and I think it has an obvious answer.....if Russia wants to gain a toehold in American government, they will seek the people open to their advances.


Yes - Very True - The Russian Spy Butina Started Her Activities Grooming Republicans Way B4 Trump was Elected............................

 

 

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

 

WHY ARE THE RUSSIANS ONLY TARGETING REPUBLICANS?

 

 
  I COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE REPRESENTATION OF RUSSIAN SPY BUTINA WITH A DEMOCRAT ANYWHERE EXCEPT POSSIBLY THE FBI AGENT TAKING HER MUG SHOT AFTER HER ARREST MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE - "ANGRY DEMOCRATS"
 

That's because republicans are as inherently corrupt and corruptible as trump has shown himself to be for his entire lifetime...

 

Like trump and the NRA, the GOP is unquestionably corrupt and corruptible and both the NRA and the GOP were perfect targets for Butina...

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mickstuder:  WHY ARE THE RUSSIANS ONLY TARGETING REPUBLICANS?

 

 

Good question and I think it has an obvious answer.....if Russia wants to gain a toehold in American government, they will seek the people open to their advances.

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Different reports are Putin says he knows nothing about her or what she has done, and then that he wants her to be released.

Jason Matthews has written the trilogy:  The Red Sparrow, Palace of Treason and The Kremlin's Candidate.  I started this read because of Matthews's CIA career bona fides and wanted to understand more of the world of spycraft and am now reading the second book.

Right now I believe if Butina returns to Russia she would be tortured and eventually killed.  I don't think the US is going to send her home to die but will keep her jailed with continued pressure for her cooperation.  I do believe this woman was a trained Sparrow.

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The conspiracy, as prosecutors described it in court, kicked off no later than March 2015 with a draft proposal Butina wrote to Torshin and others called the "Description of the Diplomacy Project."

 

WHY ARE THE RUSSIANS ONLY TARGETING REPUBLICANS?

 

It described her plan to become an unofficial conduit of communication between Russia and the US, especially through the Republican Party, at a time when the two governments were less willing to negotiate formally.
 
She had also planned to use $125,000 from Torshin to attend conferences associated with the GOP -- particularly the NRA, which she believed "had influence over" the Republican Party, she admitted.
 
NRA members also received her invitation to visit Moscow and meet with high-ranking Russian politicians. Torshin and "US Person 1", whom CNN identified as Butina's boyfriend Paul Erickson, a GOP political operative, helped her prepare for the trip.
 
After the trip in December 2015, she said to her Russian backer, "We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later."
 
She helped a US citizen host "friendship dinners" with other wealthy and influential Americans to talk about US-Russian policy, prosecutors said and Butina admitted in court.
 
Butina organized a delegation and oversaw invitations to attend the National Prayer breakfast in 2017. She noted to Erickson at the time that the people were "coming to establish a back channel of communication."
 
She also admitted that Torshin "did not believe" the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs would "go for it" when she asked him in November 2016 "how to create a dialogue with the then President-elect's advisers," prosecutors said in court, referring to advisers of Donald Trump.
 
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said Thursday that Butina took the deal "to survive."
 
"She used this option to survive," Zakharova told CNN. She has described Butina's arrest as politically motivated.
 
Erickson's defense attorney, William Hurd, attended the plea hearing. After the hearing, he said he would speak to his client before deciding whether to make a public statement.
 
He said he did not know in which jurisdiction Butina would be helping a criminal investigation, if she does indeed cooperate with one involving Erickson.
 
 
 

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