From festivals to better food, amusement parks are adding features for older adults. Take a look at what's new!

Reply
Highlighted
Valued Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
646
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

646 Views
Message 1 of 48

@alferdpacker wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

In the interest of public safety, I think the Oregon gunnutters should be quarantined - nobody allowed in or out or within rifleshot of the occupied buildings, which would have utilities shut off. Then when they get hungry and try and sneak out to find food, shoot 'em.(just kidding - about the shoot 'em part).


A psych hold and examination would be a prudent course of action. 

 

Can't shoot 'em - they're currently out of season. 

 

Couldn't feed 'em to the dogs or put them in animal feed - cruelty to animals statutes and contaminated animal feed statutes, you know.


Have to check Oregon laws, but I'm pretty sure pernicious varmints are "open season, 24/7." If the agents stand back far enough, it would be excellent practice for their snipers.

 

True, the rendering company wouldn't touch 'em - just have to burn the carcasses to keep them away from the carrion feeders - prevent the spread of Mad Bubba Disease and all, doncha know?

 

ALL IN FUN RIGHTIES!

Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
646
Views
Treasured Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
677
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

677 Views
Message 2 of 48

@Olderscout66 wrote:

In the interest of public safety, I think the Oregon gunnutters should be quarantined - nobody allowed in or out or within rifleshot of the occupied buildings, which would have utilities shut off. Then when they get hungry and try and sneak out to find food, shoot 'em.(just kidding - about the shoot 'em part).


A psych hold and examination would be a prudent course of action. 

 

Can't shoot 'em - they're currently out of season. 

 

Couldn't feed 'em to the dogs or put them in animal feed - cruelty to animals statutes and contaminated animal feed statutes, you know.

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
677
Views
Valued Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
686
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

686 Views
Message 3 of 48

In the interest of public safety, I think the Oregon gunnutters should be quarantined - nobody allowed in or out or within rifleshot of the occupied buildings, which would have utilities shut off. Then when they get hungry and try and sneak out to find food, shoot 'em.(just kidding - about the shoot 'em part).

Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
686
Views
Valued Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
693
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

693 Views
Message 4 of 48

What are your actual thoughts on this?

 

What I think is that it is a serious issue deserving more adult and non-ideological posts than:

 

.....policies of the Right, like the policies in the RED states that cause those states to have more people receiving food stamps.....

 

These guys are a bunch of self-serving idiots.

 

BLOW THEM TO SMITHEREENS AND DEFILE THE PIECES

 

Vanilla ISIS - Y'ALL QAEDA - knuckledraggers - Talibanjo 

 

Something about a religion - something about Affluence boy - something about the "movement" - something about Tim McVeigh - something about Tamir Rice.

Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
693
Views
Treasured Social Butterfly
3
Kudos
709
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

709 Views
Message 5 of 48
Report Inappropriate Content
3
Kudos
709
Views
Valued Social Butterfly
1
Kudos
719
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

719 Views
Message 6 of 48

@rk9152 wrote:

 

runner - try to follow the conversation. The post you are talking about ........................


rk9152, what do you really think about these guys seizing a federal facility with assault weapons? You think they are within their rights and can correctly call it a reasonable protest?

 

Couldn't the act of overtaking and occupying a federal facility with weapons be considered as an 'act of war'?  What are your actual thoughts on this?


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
Report Inappropriate Content
1
Kudos
719
Views
Valued Social Butterfly
1
Kudos
722
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

722 Views
Message 7 of 48

"Political correctness" has NOTHING to do with STEALING. I mean, are you that GOP thick? These lands were STOLEN from these Indians originally. These extremist right wing "patriot" yokels think it should be THEIR grazing lands?..........EXCUSE YOU.. and THEM....the Feds should send in the National Guard, FBI, etc., and SQUASH THEM into the ground......HARD!......period. 

 

runner - try to follow the conversation. The post you are talking about asked if terms like "white boys" could be considered racist. And the follow up of stuff like "calling a Black man "boy" (never even suggested) and the usual fall-back "dog whistle" nonsense

 

Now, about your point - fine, when are you going to post funny cartoons or pictures about those Park Rangers and Teddy Roosevelt over the violation of the rights of the Paiute???

Report Inappropriate Content
1
Kudos
722
Views
Valued Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
740
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

740 Views
Message 8 of 48

@rk9152 wrote:

So now rk wants people to believe calling a Black man "boy" is exactly the same as calling a white man a "good ol' boy".

 

Actually rk is just trying to establish the ground rules.

 

Political correctness makes it very hard to follow. Sorta like "all lives matter" is something to apologize for, something about a "nuance", and possibly even racist.

 


 

 

"Political correctness" has NOTHING to do with STEALING. I mean, are you that GOP thick? These lands were STOLEN from these Indians originally. These extremist right wing "patriot" yokels think it should be THEIR grazing lands?..........EXCUSE YOU.. and THEM....the Feds should send in the National Guard, FBI, etc., and SQUASH THEM into the ground......HARD!......period. 

 

In case you didn't read it before, this is how RANCHERS treated those Indians....Woman Indifferent

 

Required Reading: The Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Was Taken Over Once Before, Back in the 19th Century

 

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2016/01/04/23341055/required-reading-the-malheur-national-wild...

 

You probably already know that an armed gang has taken over a federal building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon. According to Ammon Bundy, one of the leaders of the group, the so-called "militia men" are protesting the federal government's "taking of people's land and resources."

 

By "people," Bundy means ranchers. Bundy claims that his protest was spurred by the sentencing of two local ranchers to five years in prison for setting fire to federal land.

 

But long before Ammon Bundy and his friends arrived, the Paiute people had lived in the Malheur Basin for thousands of years. The process by which natives were dispossessed of their homeland follows a pattern that took place all across the West:dehumanization, pillaging, war, murder, theft, and rip-offs.

 

 

Here's the Burns Paiute Tribe's account of how ranchers took lands and resources from the Paiute, who now maintain a reservation in Harney County:

 

Settlers first moved into what is now Harney County as late as 1862, years after settlers poured into western Oregon. Cattlemen then quickly began to take land or buy up homesteads to run their huge herds of livestock over the land. The limits of the native ecology were severely stressed due to the grazing of livestock by the expanding foreign population and the increase in hunting and fishing by those same people. Resources depended upon by the Paiute people were depleted or destroyed.

 

During these years the fighting between the Indians and the encroaching Whites became bitter, with the raids on wagon trains and army surveyors increasing. Punishing parties were sent out by the Whites to kill any Indian seen, whether man, woman or child. The Indians were fighting for their land, culture and their very lives.

 

A century later, the Paiute received damages for the loss of some of their land. They were paid less than $0.50 an acre.

 

 

Environmental historian Nancy Langston has more detail on the ranchers, homesteaders, and natives in the Malheur Basin in her book, Where Land and Water Meet:

 

Ranchers and homesteaders found common cause not just in their economic shared interests but, even more powerfully, in their opposition to the Paiute, who had made the basin their home for some thirteen thousand years. For all their differences, hating the Paiute gave ranchers and homesteaders a powerful sense of shared identity as whites. To lay claim to the basin for themselves, they believed they had to deny the Paiute's claim to a home and physically expel them.

Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
740
Views
Treasured Social Butterfly
2
Kudos
733
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

733 Views
Message 9 of 48

It's what's been referred to as "dogwhistle" and "coded speech" for a number of decades now.

Just another attempt to disguise good 'ol conservative racism.

It's no longer called "jim crow laws" it's now disguised as allegations of voter fraud, legislation to control excessive costs of welfare SNAP and other assistance programs.

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
Report Inappropriate Content
2
Kudos
733
Views
Valued Social Butterfly
2
Kudos
743
Views

Re: Bundy's and those occupying federal building get government hand outs

743 Views
Message 10 of 48

So now rk wants people to believe calling a Black man "boy" is exactly the same as calling a white man a "good ol' boy".

 

Actually rk is just trying to establish the ground rules.

 

Not even close. rk is trying to use semantics to disguise racism. He didn't even bother to deny he wants to equate calling a Black man "boy" is no more racist than calling a White man a "good ol' boy" because "boy" is spelled the same in both instances.

Report Inappropriate Content
2
Kudos
743
Views