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@jj4783 wrote:
Then why was he taking information from his wife on a source that had been fired (Steele) by the FBI?

Steele is a former British Intelligence operative now working as a private investigator who was and is considered a credible source by the FBI.  His information was sufficiently good the FBI paid him for it, but he never was employed by the FBI, so it is impossible for him to have been fired by the FBI.

 

Steels gave his information to an FBI agent (NOT the agent's wife) because he was concerned a Russian mole was running for POTUS. Thanks to a massive Russian espinoge effort, that mole was elected.

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Drunk people are always the lefts biggest friends. No one brags or makes outlandish claims when they have been drinking. Where is the collusion by Trump himself?

Gigantic problem with the basic premis here - When you're drunk, you don't have the ability to construct elaborate fantasies and as a result, you are VERY likely to be more truthful drunk than when you're sober.

 

This fact has been noted for thousands of years - IN VINO, VERITAS - has been around for a VERY long time, and the sentiment it expresses exists in virtually every ancient language.

 

So yes, drunk neoRepublicans are VERY useful- it's the only time they're likely to be telling the truth.

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I have known a few FBI agents and the only bias they have is against people who are guilty of committing crimes.  That alone should tell you something about this thread. 


I too know a few agents, some still on the job and can aver that their only bias is against criminals. The fact is, the FBI workforce is the most CONSERVATIVE bunch in the Federal Government - they just refuse to adhere to any political dogma, which is a big reason neoRepublicans hate them, that, and the fact the FBI is REALLY good at catching criminals, including those who rely on political connections to advance their crimes, like neoRepublicans are wont to do.

 

They are also part of the Intelligence Community, the only part of the Government that has not been permiated by neoRepublican "moles" who burrow into the Civil Service when their presidential appointsments expire so they can continue to influence how things are done after they lose and election. This too is a reason neoReps want them discredited - they cannot be controlled by political hacks.

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@jj4783 wrote:
Well it is now proven that some in the FBI are fired by there actions. They were involved with the Hillary investigations and many Americans have lost faith in that agency.

No Americans have "lost faith" in the FBI, but lots of Republicans are terrified at how good those guys really are, and see trying to discredit the finest investigative teams on the planet is their only hope of saving the morally deprived Trump Administration and all the hate they produce.

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@oceanedge2 wrote:

Bruce Genesoke Ohr (born March 16, 1962) is a United States Department of Justice official.

A former associate deputy attorney general

and former director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF),[1]

as of February 2018 Ohr was working in the Justice Department's Criminal Division.[2]

 

He is an expert on transnational organized crime and has spent most of his career overseeing gang- and racketeering-related prosecutions,[3] including Russian organized crime.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ohr

 

“With Paul Manafort in jail, Michael Cohen in court, and a host of longtime Trump confidants cooperating with federal prosecutors,.....Republicans are increasingly desperate to create a distraction and undermine the Department of Justice as a hedge against what the investigators may find,....

 

“Over the years, when Mr. Steele had information he felt he needed to provide to the FBI, he often reached out to Mr. Ohr, a trusted contact,” they said, noting Ohr had notified Department of Justice’s Criminal Division aware of these contacts. “When Mr. Steele subsequently reached out to Mr. Ohr with additional information, Mr. Ohr appropriately handed it off to FBI investigators to assess its credibility and potentially corroborate with other evidence.”.....

 

Democrats, who disputed the “allegations” of several GOP members, defended Ohr — saying he didn't break any laws and followed the proper protocol with his back-and-forth contacts with Steele, who he knew before the Russia probe began.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/404284-democrats-defend-ohr-following-house-testimony

 

There are just too many good, intelligent people for dt and his cult to successfully destroy them all. Tick tock, Tick tock, the clock does not stop.

Image result for image baby nasty baby trump 

 


Republicans can only rant about how the disclosure of all Trump's numerous Russian connections is wrong because Trump's lying about it should have been accepted as Truth by the FBI, just as they accept it.

 

Great picture of lil. donny throwing another tantrump. 100 criminal charges, 31 criminal indictments, FIVE guilty already - yep, that diaper is getting really ripe - no wonder he's upset.

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The FBI got a FISA warrent because:

 

Carter Page had established numerous professional and financial contacts with Russian Oligarchs and Government officials, including meetings with members of the Russian Intelligence service (nee' KGB) during the four years he lived in Moscow.

 

Carter Page had written an academic paper in which he stated he was an "informal Kremlin adviser", and described why this was so.

 

Carter Page had become a senior official in the Trump campaign and had all the signs the FBI looks for in someone who has become susceptible to Russian Government control.

 

Turns out it was Trump who is most likely to be under Kremlin control, but the FBI did what they are there to do - Protect us from foreign attacks on our democracy.

 

Republicans are out to discredit Fusion GPS because they worked with Planned Parenthood to expose groups planning to attack Women's heath care clinics.

 

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jimc posted a sarah carter propaganda article. freedom caucus trump reps made up a story about what Ohr said in their closed door meeting. trump has gone after Stozrk and Ohr, who were versed in russian criminal activities. trump and russia, a continuing trend, dishonest and criminal. More than sad!

 

trump: believe nothing, question everything

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Bruce Genesoke Ohr (born March 16, 1962) is a United States Department of Justice official.

A former associate deputy attorney general

and former director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF),[1]

as of February 2018 Ohr was working in the Justice Department's Criminal Division.[2]

 

He is an expert on transnational organized crime and has spent most of his career overseeing gang- and racketeering-related prosecutions,[3]including Russian organized crime.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ohr

 

 

Yes he is, Republicans are blatantly trying to disassemble the organized crime ability of the FBI.

 

Obviously they're trying to protect Trump, but I also suspect they are trying to protect themselves.

 

I think Republicans in Congress are up to their ears in Russian connections and Russian organized crime.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Trump's Cult members claim the Mueller investigation is all about nothing, yet they stay awake at night worrying about it. Fox, Trump, and his Cult followers do everything they can to sabotage the investigation. They utilize right wing conspracy theories which use partial truths but are usually based on false premises. This thread is an example. 

 

FISA warrants have a large number of cross checks and numerous judges who must review them. That doesn't mean the system is perfect, but don't fall for the false premises Trump Cult members try to push on everyone. Oh wait a second, didn't they say the Mueller investigation is a waste of time?


I have seen no one say that the Mueller investigation is "all about nothing". So it would appear that despite your constantly repeated mantra, there are no Cult members here.

 

On the other hand, you seem to know the sleeping habits of some posters. How do you know????

 

Let's all agree that the Mueller fishing expedition is "all about" - "Get Trump by any means necessary".

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I have known a few FBI agents and the only bias they have is against people who are guilty of committing crimes.  That alone should tell you something about this thread. 


Every government agency has two key elements - the career employees and the political appointees. And usually a third element, the internal politics players.  Which did you know?

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