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Alternately, we could see the armed, masked mobs taking over the streets to silence free speech as the rise of the fascists. 

 

We could also crush them with the power of the government and call that protecting free speech, while ignoring the KKK / Nazis, as we have been since the end of the Civil War.


What is your solution to the free speech issue? Obviously, I am referring to speech that we all find repulsive.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Spencer might be a fan of Trump but Trump isn't his fan.  Show proof otherwise.  Your party the Democrats started the KKK.  You had a Senator (Democrat) that pictured below was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and you are pointing fingers? 

 


I believe the gentleman shown is dead.  Now waiting for a Trump to be inagurated. He meets all the criteria.


Why, because YOU say so and the rest of the Antifa thugs?


Where is certification that you are a genuine trained and multiply degreed historian and multiply degreed political scientist capable of making such a determination - and being correct?

 


Seems to be  a lot interest in the KKK right now, and a lot of miss information. First lets get one fiction out of the picture the Antifa. This is a creation of FOX News and as usual its viewers think it is true and that will not change. If you want the real story on the KKK all you have to do is watch TV as it has been covered in detail along with the NAZI in Germany, by the US TV. AHC, C-Span, PBS have and are carrying the most programs on these subjects. Just this weekend we saw FOX business Channel carried the story on the Nazis in Germany, and a little about them here. Did you know before WW2 the pro Nazi here in the US were in working with the KKK as they both were for the superior race. Go watch it. C-Span carried a one hour program from 1965 on the KKK. It was the CBS News report shown on TV at that time. It was filmed with the KKK mostly in NC, and GA. They interviewed leaders in NC out from their hoods. They were all in with their hate. I was surprised at the hate they had for the RC Church, and jews. We all are aware of their black hate. There were not a lot of brown people but that was starting to show up. They showed a clan meeting with cross burning in NC. It was the same as what we saw in Va., only they used real torches then. They showed another rally and the main speaker who was the Chaplin. What a speaker he was. I now know where Donald learned to speak. It was what we today call a Trump rally. They interviewed this same speaker a few months later after he left the Clan. He then said the members were a bunch of losers, and the money they gave to the clan was taken by the leadership and used by the leaders for themselves. Now I know where Trump learned that. They showed how the Clan targeted people who attended MLK events in the south. They showed the new path the Clan was going to take moving North in to States like OH, PA, MICH., WISC, etc. They even showed some early outdoor events in the north. One 12 miles from Cleveland OH. There were protesters who showed up, and the program said this is what should happen at all their events. No real American should allow them to move north. These are the real Americans FOX News and far right Reb. call by another name for standing up against hate. The clan was correct in their plan to move north. It worked. They put Donald in the WH due to the states they targeted. They showed the American Nazi linking up  with the Clan as they both had the same objective. Now the KKK was started over 100 years ago by 6 men as a joke, that got out of hand. Now did you know that? Yes the KKK were all Dems until after WW2 when it started to change. When this program was made they had mostly became Reb. and that was covered in the program. Not only did they become Reb. but they took over the Reb. party, and made their views and goals main stream Reb. policy. Just look how they are defended, and how many real thinking Reb. are fighting them, or left the party. The truth is out go watch it, and end the really nonsense back and forth in here.


The above while interesting is based on at least three fallacies:

1) antifa is a creation of Fox News. antifa is a violent, anarchist group. 

2) "Reb." Party - no such thing.

3) The assumption that we to the right politically support the Nazis and Kluxers. We support the Constitutional rights of American citizens and believe that issues of rights should be settled in Court, not on the street.

 

If we can reach an agreement on the above, a rational discussion is possible. 

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 

 

 

Spencer might be a fan of Trump but Trump isn't his fan.  Show proof otherwise.  Your party the Democrats started the KKK.  You had a Senator (Democrat) that pictured below was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and you are pointing fingers? 

 


I believe the gentleman shown is dead.  Now waiting for a Trump to be inagurated. He meets all the criteria.


Why, because YOU say so and the rest of the Antifa thugs?


Where is certification that you are a genuine trained and multiply degreed historian and multiply degreed political scientist capable of making such a determination - and being correct?

 


Its those Glenn Beck history lessons.


We need Beck to find out what - Byrd is dead?? Or whatever that gobbygook in green is?


 

Thank you sincerely for the highly flattering and complimentary failed attempt at personal insult...
Here's the ode to trump supporters with music by John Prine.

    Some Humans Aint Human - John Prine - YouTube

 

   Remember back in the eighties, when John Prine recieved an ovation for singing - 

  "If President Reagan died, who would you vote for?"

  "If President Reagan died, how could you tell?"

 

Oh, BTW - gobbledygook - definition of gobbledygook in English | Oxford Dictionaries

Once again - We need Beck to find out what - Byrd is dead?? Or whatever that gobbygook in green is?

 

And now, do we need a John Prine song about President Reagan in order to determine that Sen. Byrd is dead??


"We"?

 

Wrong yet again...

 

I have never countenanced, never been part of the political right, and never will cooperate in any manner whatsoever with the corrupt and criminally dishonest political right...

 

That's my message here on this AARP message board...

 

 

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Politico has a good story on the ANTIFA today as applies to domestic terrorism, the FBI and Homeland Security. It also notes some are joining the ANTIFA in turkey fighting ISIS. WOnder if the alt right is doing this?

You are asking the question on the WRONG forum.  I rather doubt that there is any support for "Alt Right" here or most anywhere.  You are talking about a small fraction of the nutty population as is Antifa.


But there are one or two here that fervently support and defend the Alt-Right KKK Neo-Nazis.


I know of one poster here who tried to find a commonly understood definition for "alt-right" and had the effort shut down by the "question game". There are several here who seem to think that anyone to the right of Che Guevara is "alt-right".

 

Now, the other part of the post above - there seems to be several posters here unable to separate support for free speech, our Constitution, the Courts, and the police authorities from support for groups such as the Kluxers.

 

And, unfortunately, the post quoted above is an example of why we are unable to actually discuss issues, people refuse to get past some "point system" (often scored by kudoes) to head for an actual understanding of our differences and our commonalities.

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 

 

 

Spencer might be a fan of Trump but Trump isn't his fan.  Show proof otherwise.  Your party the Democrats started the KKK.  You had a Senator (Democrat) that pictured below was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and you are pointing fingers? 

 


I believe the gentleman shown is dead.  Now waiting for a Trump to be inagurated. He meets all the criteria.


Why, because YOU say so and the rest of the Antifa thugs?


Where is certification that you are a genuine trained and multiply degreed historian and multiply degreed political scientist capable of making such a determination - and being correct?

 


Its those Glenn Beck history lessons.


We need Beck to find out what - Byrd is dead?? Or whatever that gobbygook in green is?


 

Thank you sincerely for the highly flattering and complimentary failed attempt at personal insult...
Here's the ode to trump supporters with music by John Prine.

    Some Humans Aint Human - John Prine - YouTube

 

   Remember back in the eighties, when John Prine recieved an ovation for singing - 

  "If President Reagan died, who would you vote for?"

  "If President Reagan died, how could you tell?"

 

Oh, BTW - gobbledygook - definition of gobbledygook in English | Oxford Dictionaries

Once again - We need Beck to find out what - Byrd is dead?? Or whatever that gobbygook in green is?

 

And now, do we need a John Prine song about President Reagan in order to determine that Sen. Byrd is dead??

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Alternately, we could see the armed, masked mobs taking over the streets to silence free speech as the rise of the fascists. 

 

We could also crush them with the power of the government and call that protecting free speech, while ignoring the KKK / Nazis, as we have been since the end of the Civil War.

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Spencer might be a fan of Trump but Trump isn't his fan.  Show proof otherwise.  Your party the Democrats started the KKK.  You had a Senator (Democrat) that pictured below was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and you are pointing fingers? 

 


I believe the gentleman shown is dead.  Now waiting for a Trump to be inagurated. He meets all the criteria.


Why, because YOU say so and the rest of the Antifa thugs?


Where is certification that you are a genuine trained and multiply degreed historian and multiply degreed political scientist capable of making such a determination - and being correct?

 


Seems to be  a lot interest in the KKK right now, and a lot of miss information. First lets get one fiction out of the picture the Antifa. This is a creation of FOX News and as usual its viewers think it is true and that will not change. If you want the real story on the KKK all you have to do is watch TV as it has been covered in detail along with the NAZI in Germany, by the US TV. AHC, C-Span, PBS have and are carrying the most programs on these subjects. Just this weekend we saw FOX business Channel carried the story on the Nazis in Germany, and a little about them here. Did you know before WW2 the pro Nazi here in the US were in working with the KKK as they both were for the superior race. Go watch it. C-Span carried a one hour program from 1965 on the KKK. It was the CBS News report shown on TV at that time. It was filmed with the KKK mostly in NC, and GA. They interviewed leaders in NC out from their hoods. They were all in with their hate. I was surprised at the hate they had for the RC Church, and jews. We all are aware of their black hate. There were not a lot of brown people but that was starting to show up. They showed a clan meeting with cross burning in NC. It was the same as what we saw in Va., only they used real torches then. They showed another rally and the main speaker who was the Chaplin. What a speaker he was. I now know where Donald learned to speak. It was what we today call a Trump rally. They interviewed this same speaker a few months later after he left the Clan. He then said the members were a bunch of losers, and the money they gave to the clan was taken by the leadership and used by the leaders for themselves. Now I know where Trump learned that. They showed how the Clan targeted people who attended MLK events in the south. They showed the new path the Clan was going to take moving North in to States like OH, PA, MICH., WISC, etc. They even showed some early outdoor events in the north. One 12 miles from Cleveland OH. There were protesters who showed up, and the program said this is what should happen at all their events. No real American should allow them to move north. These are the real Americans FOX News and far right Reb. call by another name for standing up against hate. The clan was correct in their plan to move north. It worked. They put Donald in the WH due to the states they targeted. They showed the American Nazi linking up  with the Clan as they both had the same objective. Now the KKK was started over 100 years ago by 6 men as a joke, that got out of hand. Now did you know that? Yes the KKK were all Dems until after WW2 when it started to change. When this program was made they had mostly became Reb. and that was covered in the program. Not only did they become Reb. but they took over the Reb. party, and made their views and goals main stream Reb. policy. Just look how they are defended, and how many real thinking Reb. are fighting them, or left the party. The truth is out go watch it, and end the really nonsense back and forth in here.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@MIseker wrote:
Politico has a good story on the ANTIFA today as applies to domestic terrorism, the FBI and Homeland Security. It also notes some are joining the ANTIFA in turkey fighting ISIS. WOnder if the alt right is doing this?

You are asking the question on the WRONG forum.  I rather doubt that there is any support for "Alt Right" here or most anywhere.  You are talking about a small fraction of the nutty population as is Antifa.


But there are one or two here that fervently support and defend the Alt-Right KKK Neo-Nazis.


"The only thing that man learns from history is that man learns nothing from history."
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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

 


 

History says so.

 

So what "speaking from the posterior" RWNJ organization staffed with with Trump University at Bowling Green graduates will you cite for the amusement of everyone that's not a right wing crackpot?

 

Heritage?   Hoover?   Right wing crackpots.


"Speaking from the posterior" - really???

 

Again, stick with your comfortable level, "Trump sucks".


According to most all of the polls, Trumps approval rating is about the lowest in history, so to the majority, Trump does "suck" !!!


When the ultra liberal media calls 1000 people up in the city (where most all the Democrats congregate), would you expect the polls to say otherwise.  I personally don't answer unknown callers or blocked caller id and most thinking do the same.  That leaves your side to answer the polls.


WWith T-Rumps approval rating being among the lowest in history, the pollsters didn't have to cherry pick by calling those in big cities because even most not-so-smart rural Trump supporters now realize how much Trump sucks. Of course, there seems to be a few here that are in the minority.


"The only thing that man learns from history is that man learns nothing from history."
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@fangoh45 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

 


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Spencer might be a fan of Trump but Trump isn't his fan.  Show proof otherwise.  Your party the Democrats started the KKK.  You had a Senator (Democrat) that pictured below was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and you are pointing fingers? 

 


I believe the gentleman shown is dead.  Now waiting for a Trump to be inagurated. He meets all the criteria.


Why, because YOU say so and the rest of the Antifa thugs?


Where is certification that you are a genuine trained and multiply degreed historian and multiply degreed political scientist capable of making such a determination - and being correct?

 


Its those Glenn Beck history lessons.


At lest Beck is still attempting to teach American history...quite unlike the socialists, Marxists, communists, who are doing all possible to subvert or eradicate our wonderful history.


Indeed - attempting to teach - and failing...

 

It's the profound lack of republican/conservative student perspicacity...

 

 

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