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Cult of not, Mormons tilt decidedly toward honesty and decency, so while conservative, they're probably the least likely Republicans to support child rapers for the Senate.

 

Very telling Franklin Graham is in total support of child raping Senators. Somebody might want to look into his World Wide camapign to offer treats to kids.

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@umbarch64 wrote:

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I'd really, really like to see this as a positive thing.  Years of experience cause me to wonder if these young folk committed themselves to doing the ethically 'right thing' or thought this to be a convenient way to get rid of a political millstone around their neck. Cynicism is not the sole province of advanced age, unfortunately.  And, of course elders do influence...sometimes toward conformity, sometimes toward rebellion.

 

A 'person of faith' once said to me that if he were given sole charge of a child until the child were three years old, he could predict with certainty what the child would become. 

 

Possible?  Probably.  Young folk growing up in a culture with a lot of teachers saying the same thing....over and over and over can come to think there is no other way.  That's sometimes called a litany, sometimes a mantra....same thing really.


There are four fairly recent examples that may be proof that being able to raise a child in a specific way cannot be depended upon to ensure that's how the child will remain as an adult and through the rest of their life...

 

Frank Schaeffer, the son of Francis Schaeffer, who was an ardent extreme fundamentalist, anti-abortion advocate - Frank was raised in the heart of the "moral majority" - but left the movement as a young adult - never to return.

 

Megan Phelps-Roper and Grace Phelps-Roper - granddaughters of Fred Phelps - the founder of westboro baptist church and daughters of Shirley Phelps-Roper - daughter of Fred and currently the head of the organization - have left the church and the organzation...

Libby Phelps Alvarez - another of Fred's descendants - left westboro in 2009, and provided a place for Megan and Grace to stay when they first left the church, and were deciding what to do next...

 

While those are only four relatively recent well known examples - there are literally many millions who, after critically examining how they were raised, and the things they were taught to believe, when they reached their teen years, or as young adults, rejected their upbringing and sought different paths in their lives...

 

 


Rationality counts. Brain washing doesn't always work.  Thanks for the examples.  They are all religious by coincidence to be sure.  'Belief' is not limited to the religious....well....maybe that depends just a bit on what one chooses to make their 'God'.  Thank you again.


Well, the fact that Roy Moore is a deranged religious crackpot....

 

 

 


....................Amen !

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@umbarch64 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@umbarch64 wrote:

I'd really, really like to see this as a positive thing.  Years of experience cause me to wonder if these young folk committed themselves to doing the ethically 'right thing' or thought this to be a convenient way to get rid of a political millstone around their neck. Cynicism is not the sole province of advanced age, unfortunately.  And, of course elders do influence...sometimes toward conformity, sometimes toward rebellion.

 

A 'person of faith' once said to me that if he were given sole charge of a child until the child were three years old, he could predict with certainty what the child would become. 

 

Possible?  Probably.  Young folk growing up in a culture with a lot of teachers saying the same thing....over and over and over can come to think there is no other way.  That's sometimes called a litany, sometimes a mantra....same thing really.


There are four fairly recent examples that may be proof that being able to raise a child in a specific way cannot be depended upon to ensure that's how the child will remain as an adult and through the rest of their life...

 

Frank Schaeffer, the son of Francis Schaeffer, who was an ardent extreme fundamentalist, anti-abortion advocate - Frank was raised in the heart of the "moral majority" - but left the movement as a young adult - never to return.

 

Megan Phelps-Roper and Grace Phelps-Roper - granddaughters of Fred Phelps - the founder of westboro baptist church and daughters of Shirley Phelps-Roper - daughter of Fred and currently the head of the organization - have left the church and the organzation...

Libby Phelps Alvarez - another of Fred's descendants - left westboro in 2009, and provided a place for Megan and Grace to stay when they first left the church, and were deciding what to do next...

 

While those are only four relatively recent well known examples - there are literally many millions who, after critically examining how they were raised, and the things they were taught to believe, when they reached their teen years, or as young adults, rejected their upbringing and sought different paths in their lives...

 

 


Rationality counts. Brain washing doesn't always work.  Thanks for the examples.  They are all religious by coincidence to be sure.  'Belief' is not limited to the religious....well....maybe that depends just a bit on what one chooses to make their 'God'.  Thank you again.


Well, the fact that Roy Moore is a deranged religious crackpot....

 

 

 

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@alferdpacker wrote:

@umbarch64 wrote:

I'd really, really like to see this as a positive thing.  Years of experience cause me to wonder if these young folk committed themselves to doing the ethically 'right thing' or thought this to be a convenient way to get rid of a political millstone around their neck. Cynicism is not the sole province of advanced age, unfortunately.  And, of course elders do influence...sometimes toward conformity, sometimes toward rebellion.

 

A 'person of faith' once said to me that if he were given sole charge of a child until the child were three years old, he could predict with certainty what the child would become. 

 

Possible?  Probably.  Young folk growing up in a culture with a lot of teachers saying the same thing....over and over and over can come to think there is no other way.  That's sometimes called a litany, sometimes a mantra....same thing really.


There are four fairly recent examples that may be proof that being able to raise a child in a specific way cannot be depended upon to ensure that's how the child will remain as an adult and through the rest of their life...

 

Frank Schaeffer, the son of Francis Schaeffer, who was an ardent extreme fundamentalist, anti-abortion advocate - Frank was raised in the heart of the "moral majority" - but left the movement as a young adult - never to return.

 

Megan Phelps-Roper and Grace Phelps-Roper - granddaughters of Fred Phelps - the founder of westboro baptist church and daughters of Shirley Phelps-Roper - daughter of Fred and currently the head of the organization - have left the church and the organzation...

Libby Phelps Alvarez - another of Fred's descendants - left westboro in 2009, and provided a place for Megan and Grace to stay when they first left the church, and were deciding what to do next...

 

While those are only four relatively recent well known examples - there are literally many millions who, after critically examining how they were raised, and the things they were taught to believe, when they reached their teen years, or as young adults, rejected their upbringing and sought different paths in their lives...

 

 


Rationality counts. Brain washing doesn't always work.  Thanks for the examples.  They are all religious by coincidence to be sure.  'Belief' is not limited to the religious....well....maybe that depends just a bit on what one chooses to make their 'God'.  Thank you again.

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@umbarch64 wrote:

I'd really, really like to see this as a positive thing.  Years of experience cause me to wonder if these young folk committed themselves to doing the ethically 'right thing' or thought this to be a convenient way to get rid of a political millstone around their neck. Cynicism is not the sole province of advanced age, unfortunately.  And, of course elders do influence...sometimes toward conformity, sometimes toward rebellion.

 

A 'person of faith' once said to me that if he were given sole charge of a child until the child were three years old, he could predict with certainty what the child would become. 

 

Possible?  Probably.  Young folk growing up in a culture with a lot of teachers saying the same thing....over and over and over can come to think there is no other way.  That's sometimes called a litany, sometimes a mantra....same thing really.


There are four fairly recent examples that may be proof that being able to raise a child in a specific way cannot be depended upon to ensure that's how the child will remain as an adult and through the rest of their life...

 

Frank Schaeffer, the son of Francis Schaeffer, who was an ardent extreme fundamentalist, anti-abortion advocate - Frank was raised in the heart of the "moral majority" - but left the movement as a young adult - never to return.

 

Megan Phelps-Roper and Grace Phelps-Roper - granddaughters of Fred Phelps - the founder of westboro baptist church and daughters of Shirley Phelps-Roper - daughter of Fred and currently the head of the organization - have left the church and the organzation...

Libby Phelps Alvarez - another of Fred's descendants - left westboro in 2009, and provided a place for Megan and Grace to stay when they first left the church, and were deciding what to do next...

 

While those are only four relatively recent well known examples - there are literally many millions who, after critically examining how they were raised, and the things they were taught to believe, when they reached their teen years, or as young adults, rejected their upbringing and sought different paths in their lives...

 

 

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I'd really, really like to see this as a positive thing.  Years of experience cause me to wonder if these young folk committed themselves to doing the ethically 'right thing' or thought this to be a convenient way to get rid of a political millstone around their neck. Cynicism is not the sole province of advanced age, unfortunately.  And, of course elders do influence...sometimes toward conformity, sometimes toward rebellion.

 

A 'person of faith' once said to me that if he were given sole charge of a child until the child were three years old, he could predict with certainty what the child would become. 

 

Possible?  Probably.  Young folk growing up in a culture with a lot of teachers saying the same thing....over and over and over can come to think there is no other way.  That's sometimes called a litany, sometimes a mantra....same thing really.

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Yay!  Young people with morals!   

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Once in a while individual groups of Republicans get something right. KUDOS to Birmingham Young Republicans.


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