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This article is yet another example of the alternate reality bubble of Trump World where fiction becomes truth. I read this article and had to stop myself from LOL at the sheer hypocrisy of the author. 

Trump supporters are NOT conservatives. Do you remember what real conservatives stand for? 

  • Smaller government
  • Reducing the Deficit
  • Reducing the Debt
  • Free Trade / No Tariffs
  • 100% support for our NATO Allies
  • Support for law enforcement as opposed to non stop attacks against the FBI
  • Support for the Rule of Law
  • Loyalty to the Constitution as opposed to loyalty to Comrade Trump
  • Support for our Intelligence Agencies
  • And this last one is kind of weak, "Family Values". Republicans can't even pretend about this one any more. 

The All White Republican Party has turned into a CULT where real conservative principles no longer exist. Today's Republican Party allows Trump to do or say whatever he wants with those once cherished principles I outlined above. 

 

Today's Republicans don't believe in conservative principles, they believe in whatever Trump tells them to believe in.


Yep, and the gutless 52 in the Senate are leading their lemming-like pack over the cliff. And as for somehow exonerating the ToadPOTUS, Senators representing 151.5 million Americans outvoted senators representing 169.5 million Americans to acquit President Donald Trump in his Senate impeachment trial.

 

Voters will expurgate the Toad in November and he'll be in jail by midsummer. Everything the gutless draft dodger has touched during his adult life has been exposed as a fraud.

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Many true Conservatives, who have not aligned themselves with trump, have become pillars of common sense. They call trump out for who he is, what he has done, how he is affecting our system of laws, and what harm he will do.

Thanks Bill, and other true Conservatives, for being honest and still having a personal moral code!

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Sorry Jim he is still a conservative just simply not a Trump follower

 

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you in the Trump Cult Party do not like him because he is what you used to be, a REPUBLICAN before you guys went off the cliff with Trump, that is why you don't like him. For shame!!!
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CriticalThinking:   Trump supporters are NOT conservatives. 

 

No they are not, and never were. They're like Dead Head groupies cheering for their guy and they don't really have an ideology beyond whatever Trump belched out durng his last press conference.

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"Bill Kristol, once a conservative icon, is now shilling for a leftist agenda."

 

 

Ridiculous assertion that Bill Kristol is shilling for a leftist agenda, but I guess they feel the need of an excuse for trashing him.The truth is that Bill Kristol is refusing to throw out his integrity and principles to suck up to Trump and his crowd. Therefore he must go. I know that those who now call themselves "conservatives" don't have such worries, but it's a safe bet that by the time Trump is gone they'll regret selling out to a degenerate stain like Trump. But maybe not.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

This article is yet another example of the alternate reality bubble of Trump World where fiction becomes truth. I read this article and had to stop myself from LOL at the sheer hypocrisy of the author. 

 

Trump supporters are NOT conservatives. Do you remember what real conservatives stand for? 

  • Smaller government
  • Reducing the Deficit
  • Reducing the Debt
  • Free Trade / No Tariffs
  • 100% support for our NATO Allies
  • Support for law enforcement as opposed to non stop attacks against the FBI
  • Support for the Rule of Law
  • Loyalty to the Constitution as opposed to loyalty to Comrade Trump
  • Support for our Intelligence Agencies
  • And this last one is kind of weak, "Family Values". Republicans can't even pretend about this one any more. 

The All White Republican Party has turned into a CULT where real conservative principles no longer exist.. Today's Republican Party allows Trump to do or say whatever he wants with those once cherished principles I outlined above. 

 

Today's Republicans don't believe in principles, they believe in whatever Trump tells them to believe in.


The far right trump supporters will turn like a snake on their own if they criticize trump in any way.


Let's test that theory.

 

When Trump had both houses, he should have made English the official language of the United States.

 

You are getting sleepy.
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@CriticalThinking wrote:

This article is yet another example of the alternate reality bubble of Trump World where fiction becomes truth. I read this article and had to stop myself from LOL at the sheer hypocrisy of the author. 

 

Trump supporters are NOT conservatives. Do you remember what real conservatives stand for? 

  • Smaller government
  • Reducing the Deficit
  • Reducing the Debt
  • Free Trade / No Tariffs
  • 100% support for our NATO Allies
  • Support for law enforcement as opposed to non stop attacks against the FBI
  • Support for the Rule of Law
  • Loyalty to the Constitution as opposed to loyalty to Comrade Trump
  • Support for our Intelligence Agencies
  • And this last one is kind of weak, "Family Values". Republicans can't even pretend about this one any more. 

The All White Republican Party has turned into a CULT where real conservative principles no longer exist.. Today's Republican Party allows Trump to do or say whatever he wants with those once cherished principles I outlined above. 

 

Today's Republicans don't believe in principles, they believe in whatever Trump tells them to believe in.


The far right trump supporters will turn like a snake on their own if they criticize trump in any way.


Democrats in 2020
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This article is yet another example of the alternate reality bubble of Trump World where fiction becomes truth. I read this article and had to stop myself from LOL at the sheer hypocrisy of the author. 

Trump supporters are NOT conservatives. Do you remember what real conservatives stand for? 

  • Smaller government
  • Reducing the Deficit
  • Reducing the Debt
  • Free Trade / No Tariffs
  • 100% support for our NATO Allies
  • Support for law enforcement as opposed to non stop attacks against the FBI
  • Support for the Rule of Law
  • Loyalty to the Constitution as opposed to loyalty to Comrade Trump
  • Support for our Intelligence Agencies
  • And this last one is kind of weak, "Family Values". Republicans can't even pretend about this one any more. 

The All White Republican Party has turned into a CULT where real conservative principles no longer exist. Today's Republican Party allows Trump to do or say whatever he wants with those once cherished principles I outlined above. 

 

Today's Republicans don't believe in conservative principles, they believe in whatever Trump tells them to believe in.

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My 2017 Defense Of Bill Kristol Is The Worst Column I Ever Wrote

Bill Kristol, once a conservative icon, is now shilling for a leftist agenda. I regret ever having defended him.

 

BY:  David Marcus

 

I’ve written around 500 columns for The Federalist and several for other and sundry outlets, including the defunct Weekly Standard. I’ve gotten some things right, and some wrong. Once I ran a glowing screed about Anthony Scaramucci as White House communications director, and he was fired later that day.

 

I also predicted Beto O’Rourke would do well and Mayor Pete was hopeless. But one column now stands out as my worst. In 2017, I defended Bill Kristol in these pages, as a man the right still needs. Oof. I have never spilled, and I mean spilled, ink I regret more. Let me start with what my thinking was at the time and then explain why it has turned out to be abject nonsense.

 

At the time — specifically March 1, 2017, just days into the Trump presidency — I wrote this: “Kristol’s acerbic attacks on Trump provide space for the more modest criticism the rest of us offer. Rest assured, without the target Kristol provides, those more constrained attacks on Trump would be squarely in Trump’s crosshairs.”

 

I still think that’s true, but in the last three years much has changed, and these changes are something Kristol and his faux-conservative ilk have roundly refused to recognize. It took me about a year to realize the sky wasn’t falling. That conservatives were getting once unimaginable wins like an embassy in Jerusalem and a rat-a-tat-tat of impossibly good judges. Kristol has roundly refused to judge any of this as worthwhile.

 

Okay. Trump’s violation of arbitrary norms has left Kristol cold. I get it. Now he is launching some bizarre and hopeless effort to reclaim his mantle as someone conservatives should remotely care about. First he founded The Bulwark, a website wholly devoted to taking down Trump that in so doing regularly runs writers like Molly Jong Fast, who wouldn’t let a conservative serve hors d’oeuvres at her fancy Upper East Side dinner parties.

 

Now Kristol is hosting an event for “principled conservatives.” As far as I can tell, his vision of principled conservatism is electing Democrats who support abortion up to and maybe even after birth. No, thanks. If that’s principled conservatism, then throw a MAGA hat on my head, knock some of my teeth out, and buy me a pickup truck and a loyal dog. If Bernie Sanders brings socialism to the White House? Well, at least it’s not Trump.

 

No. This is not conservatism. This idea that we are going to hand the entire government over to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Squad and then Bill will ride in on the back of Mitt Romney’s horse to reclaim the mantle of right-wing leadership is a fevered acid dream even Timothy Leary would not be capable of. He’s convinced we win by losing. It’s boring and trite Alice in Wonderland logic, and he still has no idea that we are now through the looking glass.

 

Bill Kristol is no longer a conservative. He’s not the right-wing Miami Dolphins tanking to get a good draft pick. He is a liberal Democrat who publishes liberal Democrats because he can’t accept that Donald Trump has racked up more conservative victories than he ever thought were possible. He’s not a traitor. In retrospect, his entire philosophy was an easier landing for conservative defeat, the only outcome he thought possible.

 

But he was wrong. The fights long since thought unwinnable, on taxes, minority unemployment, biologically based sex, foreign policy, the judiciary, Roe v. Wade, and prayer in school are now in play. Did he ever want these things? I have no idea. But him bristling at their achievement suggests these issues were never at the top of his agenda.

 

So, I apologize. I try to find the best in everyone. When I defended Kristol as the Trump presidency was dawning, I thought he would remain an important voice in the conservative movement. I thought it wise to pay attention to his concerns. I was the wrongest I have ever been. In fact, Kristol has proved to be a recalcitrant and angry figure who cannot accept that a guy he hates is winning battles he once fought for.

 

There is no place on the right for Kristol. I was wrong to suggest there was. Lesson learned. The joyous crowds I saw at Trump’s New Hampshire rally last week clearly pave a brighter way forward. What Kristol’s misfit toys of “conservatism” portend, I cannot say. But I want no part of it, and I regret having ever been its champion.

 

 

 

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