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/www.dailywire.com/news/49880/report-bill-clinton-had-contact-epstein-far-james-barrett

 

A new report presents more evidence that Bill Clinton's recent statement about his supposed limited connection to Jeffrey Epstein left out a significant amount of contact between the former president and the man accused of sex trafficking "dozens" of underage girls over the years.

 
 

Two days after billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on charges of "sexually exploit[ing] and abus[ing] dozens of minor girls" between 2002 and 2005, a Clinton spokesperson released a statement about Clinton's contact with Epstein.

"In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation," the statement read. "Staff, supporters of the foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip. He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein’s New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail. He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and he has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida," Clinton's spokesman added.

Clinton's preemptive statement has already been found to have left out key details, including the former president and Epstein attending the same fundraiser in 1995and flight records indicating that Clinton had been on Epstein’s "Lolita Express" over two-dozen times, taking "at least six trips, not four," according to The Washington Examiner. But a new report by Emily Shugerman and Suzi Parker published by The Daily Beast Wednesday presents evidence that the contact between the two men was even more extensive and went back even further, as early as 1993, "casting doubt on the oft-circulated narrative that the two only began associating after Clinton left office."

"As early as 1993, records show, Epstein donated $10,000 to the White House Historical Association and attended a donors’ reception hosted by Bill and Hillary Clinton," the report reads. "Around the same time, according to a source familiar with the connection, Epstein visited presidential aide Mark Middleton several times at the White House. Two years later, businesswoman Lynn Forester de Rothschild wrote a personal letter to Clinton thanking him for their talk about the financier."

 

 

"How Epstein entered Clinton’s orbit remains unclear," Shugerman and Parker write. "When the president released his initial statement on Epstein, he did not explain the multiple other trips he appears to have taken on the financier’s plane—including one flight to Westchester with Epstein, his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell, and an 'unnamed female.' Clinton also failed to mention the intimate 1995 fundraising dinner at the Palm Beach home of Revlon mogul Ron Perelman, where Clinton hobnobbed with the likes of Epstein, Don Johnson, and Jimmy Buffett."

But The Daily Beast now adds a 1993 fundraiser to the list of apparently omitted details in Clinton's statement. "In late September of 1993, Bill and Hillary Clinton hosted a reception for supporters who had contributed to recent White House renovations," the report states. One of those documents lists Epstein as having been in attendance. A letter sent to Epstein the following month thanked him for his $10,000 contribution.

"Epstein’s name also turns up in connection with another shadowy figure in the Clinton administration: White House aide Mark E. Middleton," The Daily Beast reports. Middleton joined the administration in 1993 as a special assistant to Chief of Staff Mack McClarty and in 1994 was given the title "Deputy to the Counselor." During that period, the outlet reports, "a source with knowledge of the situation" said that Epstein met with Middleton at the White House at least three times. What they discussed remains unclear.

A letter dated April 27, 1995, from Lynn Forester (later Lynn Forester de Rothschild) to then-President Clinton also mentions Epstein: "Dear Mr. President: It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy’s house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future..."

While representatives for Middleton, de Rothschild, and Epstein have not responded to requests for comment, Clinton's team issued an incensed response. "President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York," a spokesperson told The Daily Beast. "Any suggestion to the contrary is both factually inaccurate and irresponsible." (Read the full report here.)

 

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And all the news is about Epstein and Trump.  The fact is Trump has not had contact with Epstein for years. 

 

Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago.


Any thinking person just has to look at the old video of Epstein with Trump and see how young Trump was to know it was long ago.  But the Alt Left Socialists will probably say Pres Trump looks 55 in the video...we all know how they roll.

 

And then they will ask for a VF Link, but when someone who isn't from the Hate Party gives one they'll attack that unless it's from their Fake News. So I guess they really only want one to argue about not to learn anything.

 

It gets tiresome to explain the same thing over and over (i.e. No Collusion w/Russia, "Innocent until proven guilty") but they constantly repeat what they think it should be like a broken record. 

Like I always said, it's like the Socialist Anti-Fa Supporting Party just wants to keep spewing hate and racism claims; and the Conservatives spend their time defending their values and refuting the Socialists' hate.

 

“Hatred corrodes the container it’s carried in.”


Yes it was a long time ago and Trump has not changed since then. The girl he rapped in E NY home was not that long ago and that is part of the story which really tells the full story. Sadly the far right just can not bring itself to see what is happening.

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cm9889168 posted..

Now all we need to know is who is checking the fact checkers? I don't think any of them are trustworthy, but then again most are Socialist Left Wing leaning.

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That is why we do not see much about Clinton's relation with Epstein.

Oddly, we don't see much about Captain Kangaroo or Aquaman with Epstein either. That is because nobody cares about 20 year old events unless they pertain to someone who has the ability to impact our society today.... Now who could that be?

 

But hey, keep trying to use Clinton as a smoke screen to hide Trump's involvement.  It is fun to watch. 

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Now all we need to know is who is checking the fact checkers? I don't think any of them are trustworthy, but then again most are Socialist Left Wing leaning.

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That is why we do not see much about Clinton's relation with Epstein.
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A rational person who is concerned about Clinton's past relationship with Epstein should be just as concerned about our present president's past relationship with Epstein.

 

I wonder if I should expect this poster to be just as concerned and post a topic about trump's relationship with Epstein, complete with pictures of trump with under-age girls ?

 

Not a chance.


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What the GOPers find disgusting about Clinton, they cheer about for tRump.

The NY Post article shows that Epstein had numerous contancts among the financial elite in NYC but what they do NOT report is that Cadet Bonespurs was chief among those contacts FOR TWENTY YEARS! and there's a long trail of photos of lil donny with Epstein going back to 1997. For that you must consult the NY TIMES.

 

Concerning the growing moral turpitude of Republicans: How is it cheating on your wife is only bad for Democrats, but is considered a great virtue for Republicans? Nothing new here - Republicans have rallied around when one of their's is discovered to molest little boys for generations. Just wondering WHEN, if ever, Republicans will begin chosing morality over political power - not even considering holding my breath until that happens.

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How would anyone know for sure that Clinton's association with Epstein predated tRump - unless that person was himself/herself a close personal friend of Epstein?

 

Lies and nonsense from extreme right fringe sources designed to appeal to right wingers too easily scammed to be able to distinguish truth from unreality?

 

Sorry - I prefer verified reality...

 

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@maryb509376 wrote:

The Daily Wire is Not Far Right!!!!!! YOU must be Far Left to have that opinion!!!!!!


The Daily Wire is classified as far right by two different fact checkers.  If you think you need to be "far left" to think that, then you are classifying anybody in the center as "far left".

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-wire

 

The Daily Wire also has a history of less than factual reporting.  I am not saying that this story is false, I am saying you can't simply believe everything reported by the Daily Wire and need to look for further third party confirmation.


Now all we need to know is who is checking the fact checkers?  I don't think any of them are trustworthy, but then again most are Socialist Left Wing leaning.

 

The truth has few friends but many enemies

 

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@KidBoy2 wrote:

/www.dailywire.com/news/49880/report-bill-clinton-had-contact-epstein-far-james-barrett

 

A new report presents more evidence that Bill Clinton's recent statement about his supposed limited connection to Jeffrey Epstein left out a significant amount of contact between the former president and the man accused of sex trafficking "dozens" of underage girls over the years.

 
 

Two days after billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on charges of "sexually exploit[ing] and abus[ing] dozens of minor girls" between 2002 and 2005, a Clinton spokesperson released a statement about Clinton's contact with Epstein.

"In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation," the statement read. "Staff, supporters of the foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip. He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein’s New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail. He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and he has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida," Clinton's spokesman added.

Clinton's preemptive statement has already been found to have left out key details, including the former president and Epstein attending the same fundraiser in 1995and flight records indicating that Clinton had been on Epstein’s "Lolita Express" over two-dozen times, taking "at least six trips, not four," according to The Washington Examiner. But a new report by Emily Shugerman and Suzi Parker published by The Daily Beast Wednesday presents evidence that the contact between the two men was even more extensive and went back even further, as early as 1993, "casting doubt on the oft-circulated narrative that the two only began associating after Clinton left office."

"As early as 1993, records show, Epstein donated $10,000 to the White House Historical Association and attended a donors’ reception hosted by Bill and Hillary Clinton," the report reads. "Around the same time, according to a source familiar with the connection, Epstein visited presidential aide Mark Middleton several times at the White House. Two years later, businesswoman Lynn Forester de Rothschild wrote a personal letter to Clinton thanking him for their talk about the financier."

 

 

"How Epstein entered Clinton’s orbit remains unclear," Shugerman and Parker write. "When the president released his initial statement on Epstein, he did not explain the multiple other trips he appears to have taken on the financier’s plane—including one flight to Westchester with Epstein, his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell, and an 'unnamed female.' Clinton also failed to mention the intimate 1995 fundraising dinner at the Palm Beach home of Revlon mogul Ron Perelman, where Clinton hobnobbed with the likes of Epstein, Don Johnson, and Jimmy Buffett."

But The Daily Beast now adds a 1993 fundraiser to the list of apparently omitted details in Clinton's statement. "In late September of 1993, Bill and Hillary Clinton hosted a reception for supporters who had contributed to recent White House renovations," the report states. One of those documents lists Epstein as having been in attendance. A letter sent to Epstein the following month thanked him for his $10,000 contribution.

"Epstein’s name also turns up in connection with another shadowy figure in the Clinton administration: White House aide Mark E. Middleton," The Daily Beast reports. Middleton joined the administration in 1993 as a special assistant to Chief of Staff Mack McClarty and in 1994 was given the title "Deputy to the Counselor." During that period, the outlet reports, "a source with knowledge of the situation" said that Epstein met with Middleton at the White House at least three times. What they discussed remains unclear.

A letter dated April 27, 1995, from Lynn Forester (later Lynn Forester de Rothschild) to then-President Clinton also mentions Epstein: "Dear Mr. President: It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy’s house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future..."

While representatives for Middleton, de Rothschild, and Epstein have not responded to requests for comment, Clinton's team issued an incensed response. "President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York," a spokesperson told The Daily Beast. "Any suggestion to the contrary is both factually inaccurate and irresponsible." (Read the full report here.)

 

==================================================================

 

And all the news is about Epstein and Trump.  The fact is Trump has not had contact with Epstein for years. 

 

Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago.


Any thinking person just has to look at the old video of Epstein with Trump and see how young Trump was to know it was long ago.  But the Alt Left Socialists will probably say Pres Trump looks 55 in the video...we all know how they roll.

 

And then they will ask for a VF Link, but when someone who isn't from the Hate Party gives one they'll attack that unless it's from their Fake News. So I guess they really only want one to argue about not to learn anything.

 

It gets tiresome to explain the same thing over and over (i.e. No Collusion w/Russia, "Innocent until proven guilty") but they constantly repeat what they think it should be like a broken record. 

Like I always said, it's like the Socialist Anti-Fa Supporting Party just wants to keep spewing hate and racism claims; and the Conservatives spend their time defending their values and refuting the Socialists' hate.

 

“Hatred corrodes the container it’s carried in.”

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The Daily Wire is Not Far Right!!!!!! YOU must be Far Left to have that opinion!!!!!!


You are what you do, so if Daily Wire is not FAR right, James Earl Ray was NOT racist.

 

The lesson here is that tRump and the GOPerLords are part of Epstein's World BECAUSE they're all rich. Once that barrier is crossed, all is forgiven and you're just one of the guys - its how Trump survived in business and the Republican Propaganda Ministry has spent decades getting millions who are not and will never be rich to believe they're on the same side as the Oligarchs who got all the goodies from every Republican administration since Nixon.

 

Not so much sad as pathetic.

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The Daily Wire is Not Far Right!!!!!! YOU must be Far Left to have that opinion!!!!!!


The Daily Wire is classified as far right by two different fact checkers.  If you think you need to be "far left" to think that, then you are classifying anybody in the center as "far left".

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-wire

 

The Daily Wire also has a history of less than factual reporting.  I am not saying that this story is false, I am saying you can't simply believe everything reported by the Daily Wire and need to look for further third party confirmation.

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