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If you read the headline of the article below you immediately say, "Yep, that's right". And when you find out that he is a friend of Steve Bannon's your impression is confirmed since we have been told that Bannon is a fascist, Nazi, alt-right and the rest of the litany.

 

However, reading the article and seeing his views on things any rational person is inclined to say, "That makes sense" - but you can't. Based on popular folk lore that would make you a fascist, etc.

 

What to do - what to do???

 

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-nigel-farage-interview-20181102-story.html

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I realize that Donald Trump encouraged the population of Great Britain to vote for Brexit but now that the true implications are beginning to unfold, could you please explain to me which part of GB leaving the European Union makes any economic sense?

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@Richva wrote:

I realize that Donald Trump encouraged the population of Great Britain to vote for Brexit but now that the true implications are beginning to unfold, could you please explain to me which part of GB leaving the European Union makes any economic sense?


You'll have to ask the Brits.

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rk9152, if you really agree with Firage and support what he says it explains a lot about your support of trump, Bannon, and many other "swamp creatures" that trump insists on surrounding himself with. Just look at the number of indictments, with more to come. trump is the leader of corruption.


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152, if you really agree with Firage and support what he says it explains a lot about your support of trump, Bannon, and many other "swamp creatures" that trump insists on surrounding himself with. Just look at the number of indictments, with more to come. trump is the leader of corruption.


Any thoughts on the disparity between the headline and the content?

 

BTW, since you have been playing the (sic) game - check out your spelling of the guy's name.

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Analysis How Did the Term 'Globalist' Become an anti-Semitic Slur? Blame Bannon

 

White supremacists have used the term as a barely concealed dog-whistle for several years, but the problem comes when it’s used in the ‘globalist vs. nationalist’ economic debate

 

The current tweetstorm triggered by conservative pundit Ann Coulter put a snarky spin on a simmering debate: Is “globalist” a legitimate description of a person with a set of views with which one can either agree or debate – or is it an anti-Semitic slur?

 

It’s a conversation that refuses to go away in the Donald Trump era. Once, it was a less charged discussion: Conservative protectionists and populists on both the left and right supported trade barriers and tariffs, and opposed multilateral trade deals, against views they termed “globalist” – those favoring economic policies that emphasize international cooperation, free trade and the lowering of barriers.

 

Coulter is an unabashed Trump-supporting, anti-immigration hyper-patriot who authors books with unsubtle titles like “Adios, America! The Left’s Plan to Turn Our Country into a Third World Hellhole.” Last week, she was reacting with disgust to the controversy regarding Trump referring to his outgoing top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, as a globalist.

 

“He may be a globalist but I still like him,” Trump said at Cohn’s final cabinet meeting last Thursday, adding, “He’s seriously a globalist. There’s no question.”

 

Those words echoed those of White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney, who said of Cohn’s departure, “I never expected that the co-worker I would work closest, and best, with at the White House would be a ‘globalist.’” Meanwhile, a Fox News reporter asked White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders whether Cohn would be replaced with “another globalist.”

 

A HuffPost headline blared “This Anti-Semitic Term Was Casually Used At The White House 3 Times This Week” – referring, of course, to “globalist.”

 

Coulter responded by posting a string of tweets mocking the assumption that “globalist equals Jew,” in which she joked about celebrities and journalists being “half-globalist” and arguing that “Israel must be defended as last redoubt of the Globalists.”

 

CNN’s Don Lemon devoted a long segment of his broadcast last Thursday to it, explaining that the term “globalist” that “keeps popping up” carries an “ugly history.” It “sounds like a pretty mainstream term, a description of an economic and political ideology. But it’s more than that. It’s also become a dog-whistle to right-wing conspiracy theorists” used in the “darkest corner of the far right,” he explained.

 

Indeed, like the word “cosmopolitan,” the term “globalist” echoes the ideology of Adolf Hitler, who fomented against the Jews as “international elements that “conduct their business everywhere,” thus harming and undermining good people who are “bounded to their soil, to the Fatherland.”

 

Over the past two years, the disturbingly robust alt-right white nationalist movement online has used the term interchangeably with “Jewish” to promote the belief that Jews put greed and tribe ahead of country.

 

It has been a cornerstone of David Duke and Alex Jones’ conspiracy theories featuring George Soros and a fantastical Jewish conspiracy designed to destroy “white” or “Western” society by flooding it with third-world hordes – all the better to strengthen their control of banks, businesses and, of course, the media.

 

In the case of Duke, neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer and other openly anti-Semitic circles, “globalist” is used too blatantly to be described as a dog-whistle: the word “globalist” is used as the descriptive part in the phrase “globalist Jews.”

 

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Bias Example?

 

We have just seen the rhetoric of Republicans, the right,  and Bannon rear it's ugly head in Pittsburgh

 

I am absolutely biased against Nazis, as I should be.

 

 

 
 
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@gruffstuff wrote:

Bias Example

 

Analysis How Did the Term 'Globalist' Become an anti-Semitic Slur? Blame Bannon

 

White supremacists have used the term as a barely concealed dog-whistle for several years, but the problem comes when it’s used in the ‘globalist vs. nationalist’ economic debate

 

The current tweetstorm triggered by conservative pundit Ann Coulter put a snarky spin on a simmering debate: Is “globalist” a legitimate description of a person with a set of views with which one can either agree or debate – or is it an anti-Semitic slur?

 

It’s a conversation that refuses to go away in the Donald Trump era. Once, it was a less charged discussion: Conservative protectionists and populists on both the left and right supported trade barriers and tariffs, and opposed multilateral trade deals, against views they termed “globalist” – those favoring economic policies that emphasize international cooperation, free trade and the lowering of barriers.

 

Coulter is an unabashed Trump-supporting, anti-immigration hyper-patriot who authors books with unsubtle titles like “Adios, America! The Left’s Plan to Turn Our Country into a Third World Hellhole.” Last week, she was reacting with disgust to the controversy regarding Trump referring to his outgoing top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, as a globalist.

 

“He may be a globalist but I still like him,” Trump said at Cohn’s final cabinet meeting last Thursday, adding, “He’s seriously a globalist. There’s no question.”

 

Those words echoed those of White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney, who said of Cohn’s departure, “I never expected that the co-worker I would work closest, and best, with at the White House would be a ‘globalist.’” Meanwhile, a Fox News reporter asked White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders whether Cohn would be replaced with “another globalist.”

 

A HuffPost headline blared “This Anti-Semitic Term Was Casually Used At The White House 3 Times This Week” – referring, of course, to “globalist.”

 

Coulter responded by posting a string of tweets mocking the assumption that “globalist equals Jew,” in which she joked about celebrities and journalists being “half-globalist” and arguing that “Israel must be defended as last redoubt of the Globalists.”

 

CNN’s Don Lemon devoted a long segment of his broadcast last Thursday to it, explaining that the term “globalist” that “keeps popping up” carries an “ugly history.” It “sounds like a pretty mainstream term, a description of an economic and political ideology. But it’s more than that. It’s also become a dog-whistle to right-wing conspiracy theorists” used in the “darkest corner of the far right,” he explained.

 

Indeed, like the word “cosmopolitan,” the term “globalist” echoes the ideology of Adolf Hitler, who fomented against the Jews as “international elements that “conduct their business everywhere,” thus harming and undermining good people who are “bounded to their soil, to the Fatherland.”

 

Over the past two years, the disturbingly robust alt-right white nationalist movement online has used the term interchangeably with “Jewish” to promote the belief that Jews put greed and tribe ahead of country.

 

It has been a cornerstone of David Duke and Alex Jones’ conspiracy theories featuring George Soros and a fantastical Jewish conspiracy designed to destroy “white” or “Western” society by flooding it with third-world hordes – all the better to strengthen their control of banks, businesses and, of course, the media.

 

In the case of Duke, neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer and other openly anti-Semitic circles, “globalist” is used too blatantly to be described as a dog-whistle: the word “globalist” is used as the descriptive part in the phrase “globalist Jews.”

 

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Bias Example?

 

We have just seen the rhetoric of Republicans, the right,  and Bannon rear it's ugly head in Pittsburgh

 

I am absolutely biased against Nazis, as I should be.

 

 No doubt there are some members of the Jewish faith who are globalists. And there are no doubt atheists who are globalists.

 

The anti-Semitic thought is meaningless.

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Here are some things to think about.

1. You do know Steve Bannon lived in the same building as Lionel Firage did and Bannon helped him plan Brexit.

2. Steve Bannon went to France and helped the far right women who ran against the current President, but thinking people won and Bannon lost.

3. Bannon worked in Italy to put their current far right govt. in power which is destroying the country.

4. Steven King was in Austria this year working with the neo Nazi to win the election there.

5. Bannon worked in eastern Europe with far right to take control in Poland, Hungry

 

If you check you will find the US far right is involved in every problem facing the EU today. You will also find that Trump  and his people are behind all of this. Now Trump does not have the brains to plan all this himself. His handlers are at work and Trump does what they say even though he nor his enablers do not realize that.

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The anti-Semitic thought is meaningless.

 

It meant something to the Nazi that went into the synagogue on the Sabbath to kill the globalist Jews.

 

Where could he have gotten such an idea?

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@gruffstuff wrote:

The anti-Semitic thought is meaningless.

 

It meant something to the Nazi that went into the synagogue on the Sabbath to kill the globalist Jews.

 

Where could he have gotten such an idea?


Were they all "globalist Jews". I thought the guy hated "Jews".

 

And again, no doubt some of the Jewish faith are globalists and some members of the Catholic faith are. If a person is anti-globalist it makes him "anti-globalist" not "anti-Semitic".

 

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Were they all "globalist Jews". I thought the guy hated "Jews".

 

Nazis don't care about the ideology of individual  Jews,  all Jews are part of the globalist conspiracy to destroy white culture in the minds of Nazis.

 

The problem with blowing the racist / white supremacists  / Nazi dog whistle is someone might actually answer to it, locked and loaded, ready to kill.

 

As they did in Pittsburgh.

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@gruffstuff wrote:

Were they all "globalist Jews". I thought the guy hated "Jews".

 

Nazis don't care about the ideology of individual  Jews,  all Jews are part of the globalist conspiracy to destroy white culture in the minds of Nazis.

 

The problem with blowing the racist / white supremacists  / Nazi dog whistle is someone might actually answer to it, locked and loaded, ready to kill.

 

As they did in Pittsburgh.


I'll have to take your word for that. You are apparently more into Nazi thinking than me. I have always thought of Judaism as a religion and globalism as a political ideology. I also thought that Nazis hated Jews and didn't concern themselves with that other stuff.

 

Silly me!!!

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I'll have to take your word for that.

 

No you don't, you can Google the globalist Jewish conspiracy.

 

Anyone can.

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@gruffstuff wrote:

I'll have to take your word for that.

 

No you don't, you can Google the globalist Jewish conspiracy.

 

Anyone can.


Given the choice, I would prefer the "nationalism" of "America first" (note: "first" not "only") to the "globalism" of "We're just another country".

 

Does that make me anti-Semitic?

 

I am not talking about some comment from somebody 75 years ago (The Atlantic article) - I am talking about a national vision (as described above) today.

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rk9152:  If you read the headline of the article below you immediately say, "Yep, that's right". And when you find out that he is a friend of Steve Bannon's your impression is confirmed since we have been told that Bannon is a fascist, Nazi, alt-right and the rest of the litany.

 

 

 

Bias? Lol

 

 

Steve Bannon is a self-described Leninist, and that is a far greater threat to the Republic than any wall or Muslim ban.  I do not mean that Bannon aims to overthrow capitalism and replace it with a communist state underpinned by Marxist ideology.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-steve-bannon-is-the-new-vladimir-lennin-02022017-story...

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:  If you read the headline of the article below you immediately say, "Yep, that's right". And when you find out that he is a friend of Steve Bannon's your impression is confirmed since we have been told that Bannon is a fascist, Nazi, alt-right and the rest of the litany.

 

 

 

Bias? Lol

 

 

Steve Bannon is a self-described Leninist, and that is a far greater threat to the Republic than any wall or Muslim ban.  I do not mean that Bannon aims to overthrow capitalism and replace it with a communist state underpinned by Marxist ideology.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-steve-bannon-is-the-new-vladimir-lennin-02022017-story...


Yes bias. The headline is out of step with the body of the article. If you think that is something to giggle about - go for it.

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@rk9152 wrote:

If you read the headline of the article below you immediately say, "Yep, that's right". And when you find out that he is a friend of Steve Bannon's your impression is confirmed since we have been told that Bannon is a fascist, Nazi, alt-right and the rest of the litany.

 

However, reading the article and seeing his views on things any rational person is inclined to say, "That makes sense" - but you can't. Based on popular folk lore that would make you a fascist, etc.

 

What to do - what to do???

 

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-nigel-farage-interview-20181102-story.html


NIGEL FARAGE makes sense??????

 

You've got to be kidding me, @rk9152!!!!!!!

 

Here is the person that YOU are inclined to say "THAT MAKES SENSE."

 

He had a close AIDE and OFFICE MANAGER, George Cottrell, who was arrested on 21 counts of fraud, moneylaundering, and extortion. How close were these two? They appeared on American TV together, they had discussions with Candidate Trump aides together, and they made many public appearances together. Cottrell went to prison. Of course, FARAGE knew nothing of his close AIDE'S and OFFICE MANAGER'S illegal activities.

 

FARAGE wholeheartedly endorsed CHILD MOLESTER Roy Moore in the Alabama election.

 

FARAGE called President Obama "A CREATURE".

 

FARAGE said " THE JEWISH LOBBY IN THE UNITED STATES IS MORE CONCERNING THEN RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE".

 

FARAGE is presently a PERSON OF INTEREST in the Russia probe.

 

So, if you want to say that a FORMER EMPLOYER of a FEDERAL PRISONER, an ENDORSER of a CHILD MOLESTER, a RACIST that calls our first Black President a CREATURE, an ANTI-SEMITE that targets JEWS based on a perceived stereotype, and a PERSON OF INTEREST in collusion with a FOREIGN POWER is also a person THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU..... you are most welcome to do so.

 

Pardon me if I don't though.

NO! IT'S CONSERVATIVES THAT ARE NUTTIER THAN SQUIRREL POOP!
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@nctarheel wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

If you read the headline of the article below you immediately say, "Yep, that's right". And when you find out that he is a friend of Steve Bannon's your impression is confirmed since we have been told that Bannon is a fascist, Nazi, alt-right and the rest of the litany.

 

However, reading the article and seeing his views on things any rational person is inclined to say, "That makes sense" - but you can't. Based on popular folk lore that would make you a fascist, etc.

 

What to do - what to do???

 

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-nigel-farage-interview-20181102-story.html


NIGEL FARAGE makes sense??????

 

You've got to be kidding me, @rk9152!!!!!!!

 

Here is the person that YOU are inclined to say "THAT MAKES SENSE."

 

He had a close AIDE and OFFICE MANAGER, George Cottrell, who was arrested on 21 counts of fraud, moneylaundering, and extortion. How close were these two? They appeared on American TV together, they had discussions with Candidate Trump aides together, and they made many public appearances together. Cottrell went to prison. Of course, FARAGE knew nothing of his close AIDE'S and OFFICE MANAGER'S illegal activities.

 

FARAGE wholeheartedly endorsed CHILD MOLESTER Roy Moore in the Alabama election.

 

FARAGE called President Obama "A CREATURE".

 

FARAGE said " THE JEWISH LOBBY IN THE UNITED STATES IS MORE CONCERNING THEN RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE".

 

FARAGE is presently a PERSON OF INTEREST in the Russia probe.

 

So, if you want to say that a FORMER EMPLOYER of a FEDERAL PRISONER, an ENDORSER of a CHILD MOLESTER, a RACIST that calls our first Black President a CREATURE, an ANTI-SEMITE that targets JEWS based on a perceived stereotype, and a PERSON OF INTEREST in collusion with a FOREIGN POWER is also a person THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU..... you are most welcome to do so.

 

Pardon me if I don't though.

 

DID you REALLY find any OF THAT in the LATIMES article??

 

IF you HAVE another SOURCE you'd like TO use, PLEASE state IT. IN the INTEREST of fairness, SINCE the TIMES leans left, YOUR source should LEAN right.

 

IN the meanTIME - do you SEE my point ABOUT the disparity BETWEEN the HEADLINE and THE content????


 

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@rk9152 wrote:


IN the meanTIME - do you SEE my point ABOUT the disparity BETWEEN the HEADLINE and THE content????


Actually, all I see is your support for the views of NIGEL FARAGE.

 

AM I RIGHT?.... or

 

AM I WRONG??

NO! IT'S CONSERVATIVES THAT ARE NUTTIER THAN SQUIRREL POOP!
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@nctarheel wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:


IN the meanTIME - do you SEE my point ABOUT the disparity BETWEEN the HEADLINE and THE content????


Actually, all I see is your support for the views of NIGEL FARAGE.

 

AM I RIGHT?.... or

 

AM I WRONG??


YOU ARE WRONG. The POINT being MADE in the topic IS the inconsistency BETWEEN the title OF THE article and IT'S content.

 

As TO "support" - the POINTS made IN the article DO make SENSE.

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@rk9152 wrote:

 

As TO "support" - the POINTS made IN the article DO make SENSE.


So then you agree with NIGEL FARAGE'S philosophy?

NO! IT'S CONSERVATIVES THAT ARE NUTTIER THAN SQUIRREL POOP!
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@nctarheel wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

As TO "support" - the POINTS made IN the article DO make SENSE.


So then you agree with NIGEL FARAGE'S philosophy?



@nctarheel wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

As TO "support" - the POINTS made IN the article DO make SENSE.


So then you agree with NIGEL FARAGE'S philosophy?


So then I THINK the POINTS made in the article DO make SENSE

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