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And Bernie leads in 6 out of the last 7 National Polls for the Democratic Primary, counting this one. 

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Really agree with you. Although, I do not dislike Bernie, and feel that at best he is a 50/50 shot to beat trump, maybe. 
But, there are a couple of places that I would be concerned. 
Bernie has quite a loyal following. If Bernie has real party loyalty, and he is not the candidate, will he support and encourage his supporters to support the party candidate? Not sure that this support took place in 2016. 
And secondly, how much energy and money will trump put into tagging Bernie as a socialist...even though it would be a false accusation, like it is a crime. 


We lost the 2016 election with a centrist candidate, Hillary Clinton. AND ....... Bernie certainly did urge his supporters to vote for Hillary, just as I did. Today he would do the same.


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William made some very good points so I will respond.

 

I don't like Bernie, I think he's an ego maniac, just like Trump. Watch him during debates. He's always waving his hand, trying to dominate the conversation. 

 

He is a socialist and his MFA plan could possibly mark the end of his candidacy. Trump will tear it apart and rightfully so. Even Bernie admits it will cost around $34 TRILLION over the next decade.

 

I think there are much better choices. I still believe Biden can beat Trump in the battleground states, but he's losing momentum. My number one choice is Amy K. but then the Dems would lose a Senator in Minnesota. I think women across America, who can't stand Trump, will come out in huge numbers to vote for an intgelligent, mainstream candidate like her. 

 

I do agree with William, Bernie supporters may do a repeat and stay home if Bernie isn't the candidate. If they do that again, they will essentially give the election to Trump

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@CriticalThinking 

Really agree with you. Although, I do not dislike Bernie, and feel that at best he is a 50/50 shot to beat trump, maybe. 
But, there are a couple of places that I would be concerned. 
Bernie has quite a loyal following. If Bernie has real party loyalty, and he is not the candidate, will he support and encourage his supporters to support the party candidate? Not sure that this support took place in 2016. 
And secondly, how much energy and money will trump put into tagging Bernie as a socialist...even though it would be a false accusation, like it is a crime. 

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The real Democrat Platform AKA Bernie Sanders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjlXUIFJft8

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I'm not saying Bernie can't beat Trump, but I have very little conifdence in him. I think Trump goes to bed at night dreaming that Bernie is his opponent in 2020. And he has good reasons for that dream, which would be the best thing that could possibly happen for Comrade Trump.

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Jamie Peck Bernie Sanders can beat Trump with his liberal vision for America. Primary voters know it.
Democratic primary voters aren't just eager to win the presidency. They're also eager to see a leader fight for a real progressive policy platform.
Image: Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders Holds NH Primary Night Event In Manchester
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., takes the stage during a primary night event on Feb. 11, 2020 in Manchester, Ne.H.Joe Raedle / Getty Images
 
Feb. 15, 2020, 8:33 AM CST
By Jamie Peck

 

Do not adjust your television set: Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., could very well be the next president of the United States of America.

According to a poll conducted by Morning Consult the day after the New Hampshire primary, the self-described democratic socialist leads the pack of candidates among Democratic primary voters nationwide, with 29 percent of potential voters saying they’d vote for him if their state’s caucus or primary were held today.

 

Former vice president Joe Biden, once in the lead, now trails a full 10 points behind Sanders, with billionaire former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, former McKinsey consultant-**bleep**-South Bend, Indiana mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., in third, fourth and fifth place, respectively.

 
Could Bernie Sanders win this time around?FEB. 27, 201902:59

The change in the two men's prospects is even more pronounced among black voters, who have been some of Biden’s strongest supporters; their perception of Biden as the most electable candidate fell 10 points to 21 percent, while Sanders rose nine points to 32 percent. That is especially bad for Biden considering that he’s centered much of his pitch around being the safest bet against Trump — a consideration many Democratic voters, particularly people of color, rank highly in their thinking.

Are voters right to believe in Bernie? While polls can only tell us so much at this juncture, the latest one from Quinnipiac University surveying all registered voters shows him doing well in a head-to-head against Trump, beating him 51-43 percent; in the same poll, Biden bests Trump 50-43 and Bloomberg does so 51-42. Sanders, however, polls the best against Trump with independents — which makes sense, as he’s the longest-serving independent member of Congress in U.S. history.

 

Even Donald Trump has seemed impressed: In an apparent recorded conversation released by Lev Parnas’ legal team, the president said that he believes Hillary Clinton would’ve been “tougher” to beat in 2016 had she chosen Sanders as her running mate: “He's the only one I didn't want her to pick.”

Sanders’ supporters believe his decades-long record of fighting for social and economic justice and criticizing the corrupt political establishment will turn out people in the general election who don’t habitually vote — a group that skews young, poor and non-white.

To his energetic and activated base, Sanders is that rare candidate who combines bold, progressive ideas with an actual path to electoral victory. (No offense, former Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio.) We've listened for decades as party leaders have said that they would love to fight for things like single-payer healthcare, tuition-free public college and criminal justice reform, if only those things weren’t political suicide. It took Sanders' insurgent 2016 candidacy to drag the party and the conversation to the left, and now he’s back with an even more ambitious program.

 

Of course, his candidacy would never have taken off the way it did in 2016 or again in 2020 if grassroots movements like Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter hadn't empowered regular, working class people to talk about our political-economic system's failure to deliver on their promises for all but a lucky few. And, more recently, the nationwide wave of teachers’ strikes both fed into, and was fed by, the movement behind Sanders.

 

With the slogan “Not me. Us,” Sanders acknowledges he’s part of something larger than himself: A movement for social justice and economic democracy to counter the threat of right-wing authoritarianism. So don't think about it as voting for him; think about it as voting for all of us.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-can-beat-trump-his-liberal-vision-america-prima...


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