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@ChasKy53 wrote:

".... There can be good changes made in managing our forests that would make a big difference in how big and damaging these fires are. Structures that are much more fireproof and safe places are also good ideas to save lives and homes.....".

 

Once again, it's ordinary people preventing procedures. Forest services in this country and Canada want to do more controlled burns. The people who want to live in, or next to forest areas, object. We should not allow people to build in these areas, but of course, that would be 'un-American'. So, it's like building on the coastlines and getting wiped out in storm surges. We're all 'shocked' when this happens, and don't mind paying to have these people rebuild.

  We don't need fireproof structures. We need common-sense zoning and prescribed burns over the objections of the homeowners. 


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Gruffstuff, in your comments you make some good points and some good suggestions. There can be good changes made in managing our forests that would make a big difference in how big and damaging these fires are. Structures that are much more fireproof and safe places are also good ideas to save lives and homes.


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Out here in the west, there were a couple of moronic bleepwits in their early twenties that were firing tracer rounds while shooting at a shooting range - those tracer rounds were in violation of fire restrictions as well as federal and state regulations regarding civilian use of tracer ammunition.

 

It appears they started a fire that threatened two small towns - but in this case - the towns were lucky...

 

The fire burned over 12,000 acres at a cost of over $18 million to fight it

 

They turned themselves in - and face at least eight felony charges - well over a dozen misdemeanor charges - and well over five dozen potential civil suits for homes burned and other property damage - so far...

 

if convicted, they face somewhere between 5 and 10 years in prison.

 

Fortunately, the massive amount of hot air that daily issues from trump's mouth did not make that fire worse...

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we out west here call that, unfortunately, our new normal. I no longer look forward to much of summer because of what Calif. is dealing with as we have our own fires here in the great Northwest area and B.C. Canada every summer to endure. No doubt come next August or sooner will be wearing the same thing.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/17/behold-latest-sign-apocalypse-air-mask-selfies-fire...

 

Behold the latest sign of the apocalypse: Air mask selfies in fire-ravaged California

 

 

 

The Camp Fire still burning in Northern California has brought another dangerous event: air conditions so toxic in the Bay Area that residents are urged to stay indoors or wear a mask outside in the face of potentially serious health risks.

 

This has given rise to a trend: air mask selfies. The photos capture the gravity of the hazardous conditions in the major metropolitan area, where life outside has virtually shut down, with no clear end in sight.

 

School districts and universities have closed, some workers are staying home, outdoor events have been canceled, and vaguely apocalyptic-seeming filtered-air centers have been set up around the region. The air-quality index in the area was about 240 on Friday, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA defines that as very unhealthy, meaning that “everyone may experience more serious health effects.” And the conditions are forecast at least through Tuesday.

 

In San Francisco, tourist attractions such as its famed cable cars and Alcatraz Island were shut down, while Muni — the city’s public transit — was made free so people could more easily get around. Officials are recommending people wear N95 respirator masks outside.

 

“The winds are light and offshore, so there’s nothing to move the smoke,” Suzanne Sims, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, told the San Francisco Chronicle. “It’s there, and it’s not going anywhere."

 

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Time to rethink how we use and view forests. The U S Forrest service was created to preserve and manage forests

 

Some forests evolved to burn, and trying to preserve them does more harm to the forests and the people who live in and around them then allowing them to burn in a natural way.

 

Forrest that go though natural burn cycles are not over grown with underbrush and dead fall, the trees are spaced out, and when burns do come, it's not a fire storm that kills adult trees.

 

We need to do a better job at managing forests, and either allow them to burn naturally, or emulate natural burns with controlled burns and or clearing away under brush and dead fall, thinning trees, and mulching it to ground cover in areas where natural burns are not possible.

 

We need to learn the lesson fires teach us and adapt, even though the forest might not look as pretty.

 

We need to do a better job with building codes, to build fire resistant structures.

 

In high risk areas we might consider fire shelters, like the old school civil defense shelters.

 

 

 

 
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