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U.S. Attorney is fired by tRump because he is investigating tRump's attorney and tRump supporters brag.  Wow, have things in this country deteriorated.


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Firing the US Attorney is just another coverup to hide trump’s corruption. 
No matter how big the coverup, no matter how big the lies are, that’s trump and his supporters cheer fo him. trump is never questioned by his supporters...they don’t wish to know the truth...and trump does not want them to know the truth...it’s a perfect symbiotic parasitic relationship. No freedom, just blind allegiance. 

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he was fired for doing his job, and Trump didn't like it! What's new. Trump is a thug.
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Top Manhattan prosecutor leaves job after standoff with Barr Barr said Attorney Geoffrey Berman's refusal to resign under pressure prompted Trump to fire him

 

BY:  AP

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — An extraordinary standoff between the Justice Department and Manhattan U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman ended Saturday when the prosecutor agreed to leave his job with an assurance that his investigations into allies of President Donald Trump would not be disturbed.

 

The announcement capped two days of conflicting statements, allegations of political interference in prosecutions, and defiance from Berman. On Saturday, Attorney General William Barr said Berman's refusal to resign under pressure prompted Trump to fire him. Trump tried to distance himself from the dispute, telling reporters the decision "was all up to the attorney general."

 

This episode deepened tensions between the Justice Department and congressional Democrats, who have accused Barr of politicizing the agency and acting more like Trump's personal lawyer than the country's chief law enforcement officer. It also raised questions about ongoing investigations in the Southern District of New York, most notably a probe into Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney.

 

Barr set off the whirlwind chain of events on Friday night with a surprise announcement that Berman was resigning, without explanation. But Berman insisted he had not resigned, was not stepping down and his investigations would continue.

 

On Saturday morning, he showed up to work, telling reporters, "I'm just here to do my job." Hours later, Barr announced Berman's firing.

 

"Unfortunately, with your statement of last night, you have chosen public spectacle over public service," Barr wrote in a letter released by the Justice Department. He said the idea that Berman had to continue on the job to safeguard investigations was "false."

 

Although Barr said Trump had removed Berman, the president told reporters: "That's all up to the attorney general. Attorney General Barr is working on that. That's his department, not my department." Trump added: "I wasn't involved."

 

The administration's push to cast aside Berman amounted to a political and constitutional clash between the Justice Department and one of the nation's top districts, which has tried major mob, financial crimes and terrorism cases over the years.

 

Only days ago, allegations surfaced from former Trump national security adviser John Bolton that the president sought to interfere in an investigation by Berman's office into the state-owned Turkish bank in an effort to cut deals with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

 

Berman initially vowed to stay on the job until a replacement was confirmed. He changed his mind late Saturday after Barr said he would allow Berman's second in command, Deputy U.S. Attorney Audrey Strauss, to become acting U.S. attorney.

 

Berman said Strauss' appointment signaled that Barr had decided "to respect the normal operation of law." He said he was stepping down immediately.

 

The administration's efforts to replace Berman with a handpicked replacement, however, were already running into roadblocks before Barr agreed to install Strauss.

 

After announcing Berman's resignation, the White House said it was nominating Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton, a well-connected Wall Street lawyer with virtually no experience as a federal prosecutor, for the job.

 

But Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and a close Trump ally, said he was unlikely to proceed with Clayton's nomination unless New York's senators, Democrats Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, gave their consent to the pick.  Schumer said the bid to oust Berman "reeks of potential corruption of the legal process," and Gillibrand said she would "not be complicit" in helping fire a prosecutor investigating corruption.

Both lawmakers called for Clayton to withdraw from consideration.

 

Schumer also called for the department's inspector general and Office of Professional Responsibility to investigate Berman's ouster. And the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., said Berman has an open invitation to testify before his panel.

 

Berman, a Republican who contributed to the president's election campaign, worked for the same law firm as Giuliani and was personally interviewed by Trump before being tapped as U.S. attorney. But he won over some skeptics after overseeing numerous prosecutions and investigations with ties to Trump.

 

Though Berman is said to be unclear about the exact reason he was fired, people familiar with his thinking said his job had always seemed in jeopardy and he never had the sense it was secure.

Among the most high profile investigations he was overseeing was into Giuliani's business dealings, including whether he failed to register as a foreign agent. Charges in the case do not appear imminent, according to people familiar with the matter. They were not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

 

The Southern District has also prosecuted a number of Trump associates, including Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen, who served a prison sentence for lying to Congress and campaign finance crimes. Cohen was recently released from a federal prison to continue serving his sentence on home confinement over coronavirus concerns.

 

Berman has overseen the prosecution of two Florida businessmen, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who were associates of Giuliani and tied to the Ukraine impeachment investigation. The men were charged in October with federal campaign finance violations, including hiding the origin of a $325,000 donation to a group supporting Trump's reelection.

 

Under Berman's tenure, his office also brought charges against Michael Avenatti, the combative lawyer who gained fame by representing porn actress Stormy Daniels in lawsuits involving Trump. Avenatti was convicted in February of trying to extort Nike after prosecutors said he threatened to use his media access to hurt Nike's reputation and stock price unless the sportswear giant paid him up to $25 million.

 

 

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@MsStretch wrote:

Berman said he wasn't stepping down, so Billy Barr went crying to IMPOTUS and fired him outright.  Of course, liar-in-chief 🤥 disavowed any knowledge of this.  Berman ended the stand-off and this time issued a statement saying he would go.

 

Stay tuned for the next ridiculous episode in the Trumpian comic book.


The sad thing is that the "Trumpian comic book" effects real people, all of us.


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Berman said he wasn't stepping down, so Billy Barr went crying to IMPOTUS and fired him outright.  Of course, liar-in-chief 🤥 disavowed any knowledge of this.  Berman ended the stand-off and this time issued a statement saying he would go.

 

Stay tuned for the next ridiculous episode in the Trumpian comic book.

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

I don't  fully want to understand.  because,  I  am angry as hell.  and   I don't see how in this world    we have to    "  take it "  and  we dont even have the mechanisms  to deal with what is  more and more the  actions of a Dictator.

It seems to me that you are a all waiting for the power of your vote, but, if he tries to rigg these elections by putting restrictions to voting then what will be the actions of this country? simply say, well we will  have to wait another four years to get rid of him? There is something that the  citizens of this country can make this Administration    know that they will not take these actions any longer.  Perhaps the judges can do something about an Administration that is not behaving as the Democratic Institution that it was created.                                                                                                                                                 

 

                       


Hate to  break the news to you but the answer is no we can not do anything as Trump controls the levers of power. He has been working on that control for 3 years now and until this year most sat by and treated everything he did as single items rather than a Mob Boss President going to be full Dictator.

I have told all for 3 years now that Trump was on the Hitler path to be Dictator. All you had to do was spend some time on How Hitler took over Germany, and you see what Trump is doing now.

We do not know today all of the people behind Trump are. Trump does not have the brains to do this on his own. We do know what is left behind in the Reb. party make up a good part of it so you have to end the Reb. Party as it is now beside ending Trump.

The judges you ask about are long gone. Trump has appointed more of them than anyone and he does have control of most of the courts. I have told all the back story on the SC judges he appointed. This week we saw one of them stray from the path and that shows some hope. The other lived up to support Trump in everything he does.

Our best hope is we have elections and we defeat Trump, but do not think that is certain. Watch TV today and look at Tulsa and the Trump supporters. There are way to many to say he looses the election for sure. Tulsa is like a National KKK meeting.

Last but not least. Trump has told us he does not think there should be an election this fall, and he has the power to cancel it. I think there is at least a 50-50 chance he will. If he looses M. Cohen has told us he will not leave office, and I think there is at least a 50-50 chance that will happen. All should pray and work to end Dictator Trump in Nov. if we can. We are in the fight of our lives, and the people of the US created this problem by voting a Mob Boss in as President. Trump has not changed one bit over the last 50 years. You get what you elect, and that is being proved true.

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I don't  fully want to understand.  because,  I  am angry as hell.  and   I don't see how in this world    we have to    "  take it "  and  we dont even have the mechanisms  to deal with what is  more and more the  actions of a Dictator.

It seems to me that you are a all waiting for the power of your vote, but, if he tries to rigg these elections by putting restrictions to voting then what will be the actions of this country? simply say, well we will  have to wait another four years to get rid of him? There is something that the  citizens of this country can make this Administration    know that they will not take these actions any longer.  Perhaps the judges can do something about an Administration that is not behaving as the Democratic Institution that it was created.                                                                                                                                                 

 

                       

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Rosanna35 wrote: Been reading ab out this, Is there is anything that   can be done  a bout this?  or do  we  have to    s tand  for him to simply  fire anyone that he doesn't like? 

 

For now, yes, we have to stand for it BECAUSE the position in question is a Presidential Appointment.

 

What we can do is expurgate the Republicans who would block making judicial positions something determined within the judiciary so each level of our court system selects replacements from within that level of judges, or from the next lower level.

 

District Court Judges would select Magistrate Judges, who handle the non-felony cases brought to the district courts, and District Attorneys (Prosecutors) who present the Government's position in District Court.

 

Judges and Attorneys for the Courts of Appeal would be selected by the Judges of the Appeals Courts from the pool of DAs in the District court, or from other DAs practicing in the Courts of Appeal.

 

Justices of the Supreme Court would still be appointed by the president, but only from judges in the Courts of Appeal and only with the consent of the Senate.

 

Removing politics from our judicial system is an absolute necessity for eliminating courts that make laws instead of interpreting them, and restoring our Citizens faith in the Judicial System.

 

This way, the next Giuliani (or other senior politician) will be prosecuted by a totally unbiased system that the President cannot influence...but could still pardon his guilty associates.

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Hopefully when Biden is elected in November and the Trump Cult is kicked out of power they can go after both Trump and Barr and impeachment then BOTH!!! in Trump's case, again, then lock them up!!!
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