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They won the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, but that's not good enough for Trump Lovers. They cannot function normally in life unless there's another Clinton scandal and/or investigation. I'm sure a psychiatrist could explain why, but I can't.


 Yep - Nowadays, it's been discovered and conclusively verified that for unknown reasons their brains didn't develop like the rest of ours did - and there's absolutely no question - their brains developed that way in utero.

 

They were born that way - it can't be "fixed"...

 

It's no more a "choice" than being short or tall, blond, or black haired, homosexual or heterosexual, conservative or liberal.

 

After a couple of decades of experience with conservatives, I came to the realization/conclusion that political republicans/conservatives cannot be trusted.

 

As Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote, "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."

 

 

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They won the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, but that's not good enough for Trump Lovers. They cannot function normally in life unless there's another Clinton scandal and/or investigation. I'm sure a psychiatrist could explain why, but I can't.

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How typical - disagree with a point and call it a "conspiracy theory".


In this case, it would appear they were disagreeing with the conspiracy theory itself. When you have no facts to present, it is called a theory. When there is no logical path to the conclusion you have reached, the only recourse is "a conspiracy". 

 

Are you suggesting that Papadapolus' guilty plea is part of a new conspiracy?


No

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@rk9152wrote:

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easyed598:  The more they investigate Trump the more it points to the Obama  and Hillary misdeeds.

 

 

 

Would you care to let us in on exactly what those misdeeds are? Aside from merely existing.


"Us" - it was the use of federal agencies in a partisan fashion.


So the FBI was used "in a partisan fashion" to investigate Hillary?


They sure did "investigate" her and covered for her. Your point??


Do you really believe all the stupid conspiracy theories you post here?


I'll have to assume that you do not agree with me but are unable to intelligently express yourself and have only childishness like "stupid theories" to post.

 

However, was the report not changed from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" thereby enabling the "no one would indict" claim? Then there was the "Oh sure she did violate security rules bur we can't prove she meant to" defense offered by Comey. She was not charged when she had subpoenaed emails erased. Then her assistants were interviewed not sworn in and given permission to erase their computers. And, how about the Weiner fiasco - the FBI did nothing.


I guess that means you really believe the stupid conspiracy theories you post.


It actually means that I really believe the facts pointed out above.

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(a)  You mean "corrupted" by the truth? Show who was "corrupted", and by whom.

When federal agencies are used for partisan purposes, that is corruption.

 

(b)  You should obviously educate yourself on FISA warrant procedures, until you do the debate you offer about it could be easily and justifiably ridiculed. 

Is it your point that they are not issued based on the information provided and the assumption that the material has been properly vetted?

 

(c)  The DNC refused access by the FBI, who you claimed they were in cahoots with in a conspiracy.  What a hoot !  Ya' just can't make up this kind of stuff !  ROFLMAO !!!!

When you can control your giggles possibly you can explain your point. The DNC did refuse to let the FBI examine there computers. Let me try once again to help you understand. No one has said that the FBI was in cahoots.

 

(d) You are the one who has "struck out".

Wrong!!  I done got me a homer!!


 

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The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show. 

 

Former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer’s role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS is chronicled in decade-old government memos archived on the Australian foreign ministry’s website.  

 

Downer and former President Clinton jointly signed a Memorandum of Understanding in February 2006 that spread out the grant money over four years for a project to provide screening and drug treatment to AIDS patients in Asia. 

 

The money was initially allocated to the Clinton Foundation but later was routed through an affiliate of the charity known as the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), officials said. Australia was one of four foreign governments to donate more than $25 million to CHAI, records show.

 

 

 


This is the 3rd or 4th time you posted this story. Here is another thing the far right do to try and keep  thinking people from staying with the big stories. The story he posted about is pure right wing nonsense. For real news there is one word. Stormy. What did our Dictator do with her and how many names does he use in his slimey deals.

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@jimc91wrote:

The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show. 

 

Former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer’s role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS is chronicled in decade-old government memos archived on the Australian foreign ministry’s website.  

 

Downer and former President Clinton jointly signed a Memorandum of Understanding in February 2006 that spread out the grant money over four years for a project to provide screening and drug treatment to AIDS patients in Asia. 

 

The money was initially allocated to the Clinton Foundation but later was routed through an affiliate of the charity known as the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), officials said. Australia was one of four foreign governments to donate more than $25 million to CHAI, records show.

 

 

 


You got any factual data and valid proof that Papadopoulos, who has cut a deal (because he was guilty, caught cold, and knew it) wasn't drunkenly babbling about having dealt with Russians?

 

Where's proof that the Ambassador lied?

 

What?   Ain't got diddly squat?

 

Only make believe fairy tales from the "Alternate Reality"?

 

Thought so...

 

 

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You know what the point is. The FBI and 7 Republican investigations cleared Hillary. If there was anything partisan about it, it was partisanship on the Republican side.

The Congressional Committees were sandbagged by the FBI and the cleared he rin very nebulous terms as descibed in another post.

 

FISA warrants were issued on available information, not where that information cam from.

The where it "cam" from is a factor in judging veracity.

 

Trump asked the Russians to "find the emails". They were found through hacking, the Right didn't complain about that did they? Hypocrisy comes to mind.

A few thoughts - you know he was joking, dontcha? The DNC computers were hacked and the FBI offered to fix and protect them - they refused access. As to the hacked emails - it seems the content is a bigger factor than the wikileaks source.


 


@I just have to laugh, your conspiracy theories contradict themselves. This is explained excellently in Rchva's post, posted on 03/07/2018 @ 6:41 am.  Have a look at it.


And it was responded to at 03-08-2018 08:11 AM. If you can get your giggling under control - have a look at it.

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Olderscout wrote-Republicans are entirely responsible for the 4 dead Americans at Benghazi.---


After President Obama saved Benghazi from total destruction and toppled Kadaffi without a singleAmerican casualty, Republicans refused to increase iad to Libya to help stabalize the country. then Republicans praised the anti-Muhammad video. enraging the Libyan militia gurading the Consulate so they refused to intervene when the 95 minute attack began. They also refused to compromise on the budget, leaving the moronic "sequester" in place that kept DOD from having the resources to have any way to refuel the F-16 that was scrambled in Italy to provide air cover and try and aid the men in the Consulate. But the biggest thing the Republicans did to those 4 dead Americans was to use them aspolitical pawns to try and slander Hillary by spreading the lies that thee was anything that she could've done to save them, and that the attack was longer than the 95 minutes it actually took. Republicans lie and slander and lie some more to cover up the first lies. NOTHING they've said about Benghazi is true, except for the names of the fallen heros. The circumstances of their death has been turned into a vicious lie to advance the NRAGOP agenda.


Surely you are aware that the actions you praise led to Ansar al-Sharia taking over Benghazi. But, hey that doesn't matter does it? The only important thing is praise Obama, defend Hillary and attack the so-called NRAGOP.

 

BTW when did Republican praise the film that the Dems lied and blamed for the attack? Or is that just one more in the extensive collection of "those" fact?


Ansar al-Sharia is no more, having announced its dissolution back in 2017. They were not involved in the attack on our Consulate in Benghazi.

I was responding to the praise for ousting Kadaffi.

 

As for Republican support of the video,  Roy Edroso documents in the Village Voice, conservatives are now claiming that (video creator) Nakoula’s recent arrest for potentially violating the terms of his probation is proof the Obama administration is caving to violent protests around the world. Popular conservative blogger Glenn Reynolds demanded Obama resign for “sending — literally — brownshirted enforcers to engage in — literally — a midnight knock at the door of a man for the non-crime of embarrassing the President of the United States and his administration[.]” The “brownshirts” are the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, whom Reynolds is comparing to militia of the Nazi Party in Germany. Powerline blogger Scott Johnson declared “I am Nakoula Basseley Nakoula,” (a reference to the anti-Red Scare film Spartacus). Pajamas Media blogger Roger Simon wrote “Hillary Clinton, I insist that you have me arrested. I am thinking of making a movie about Muhammad.”

How does that address - "BTW when did Republican praise the film that the Dems lied and blamed for the attack"?

 

Now we can consider the millions wasted in the futile attempt by RWNJs to shift the blame from the actual instigator of the 95 minute attack to Hillary. The video deprived the Consulate of its militia protection. Lack of that protection led the terrorists to attack. Conservatives are responsible for the video by supporting and defending its maker and are therefore responsible for attack and the 4 dead Americans in Benghazi.

This was resolved a long time ago. It is questionable if they were derived of the outside defense. But, it has been shown that the video only adjusted the timing of the attack which was already planned. So, it effected the timing, not the attack itself as Hillary etal claimed.


 

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Here you are Ed, one stop shopping for everything you never knew about Benghazi. You won't like it as well as Fox News, but it's the results of multiple Republican investigations in congress.

 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY An ongoing Congressional investigation across five House Committees concerning the events surrounding the September 11, 2012, terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya has made several determinations to date, including:  Reductions of security levels prior to the attacks in Benghazi were approved at the highest levels of the State Department, up to and including Secretary Clinton. This fact contradicts her testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee on January 23, 2013.  In the days following the attacks, White House and senior State Department officials altered accurate talking points drafted by the Intelligence Community in order to protect the State Department.  Contrary to Administration rhetoric, the talking points were not edited to protect classified information. Concern for classified information is never mentioned in email traffic among senior Administration officials. These preliminary findings illustrate the need for continued examination and oversight by the five House Committees. The Committees will continue to review who exactly was responsible for the failure to respond to the repeated requests for more security and for the effort to cover up the nature of the attacks, so that appropriate officials will be held accountable.

 

Your point???

 
 
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