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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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This isn't "partisan", so pay attention to it, it's from the source provided for you:

 

"the president explains his decision to order Federal troops to Little Rock to ensure that the students are allowed access to the school, as mandated by the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education".


Are you telling me what to post? 

 

Read my post to Alferdpacker and would you condone the Democratic Governor of Arkansas using the National Guard to prevent those Black students from attending Little Rock High School?  Apparently you would by your objections.

 

This link might be beneficial in explaining why Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne.  Basically he was carrying out out his constitutional responsibility to enforce the law.  Of course there are those who would prefer to carry on partisan type arguments.

 

So do you also condone elements of the Mexican Army crossing our border and holding our soldiers at gunpoint?  Apparently you do by your continuing to stay off topic from that.


The above post contains opinion as well as conclusions that may or may not be appropriate, accurate and legally conclusive.

 

Now - if a statement of the current sitting SCOTUS Chief Justice unanimously supported by the other justices were cited - conclusively settling the difference of opinion - that would be a different thing..

 

 

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There are many reasons why - Possee Comitatis - was deemed necessary

 


To the contrary, perhaps you should do some more research on Posse Comitatis.  These troops were at the border; the Mexican soldiers were on U.S. soil (even mistakenly).  The mission of the military at the border wasn't for law enforcement but for logistics support for the Border Patrol.  That was mostly to free them up for enforcement.

 

In this case it was the Mexican soldiers that was wrong.  And the Americans acted correctly to defuse the situation and set them straight, thus defusing the situation.

 

There does seem many who are not that familiar with the act.  Our military was correctly deployed correctly in supporting another federal agency within the United States in a non-military capacity.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:


This isn't "partisan", so pay attention to it, it's from the source provided for you:

 

"the president explains his decision to order Federal troops to Little Rock to ensure that the students are allowed access to the school, as mandated by the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education".


Are you telling me what to post? 

 

Read my post to Alferdpacker and would you condone the Democratic Governor of Arkansas using the National Guard to prevent those Black students from attending Little Rock High School?  Apparently you would by your objections.

 

This link might be beneficial in explaining why Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne.  Basically he was carrying out out his constitutional responsibility to enforce the law.  Of course there are those who would prefer to carry on partisan type arguments.

 

So do you also condone elements of the Mexican Army crossing our border and holding our soldiers at gunpoint?  Apparently you do by your continuing to stay off topic from that.

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 

 

Since the Federal Troops at Little Rock were present to ensure that a Court Order was obeyed...

 

Can any Court Order be linked to that required the presence of US troops at the border with Mexico - or was tRump talking and giving orders entirely from the posterior - as he has been doing with considerable frequency for the last two years?

 

 


The Democratic Governer Faubus had activated the Arkansas National Guard to prevent the 9 Black students from attending school, so Eisenhower nationalize them and further sent in the 101st Airborne to depoliticalize the situation.  This preventing the local troops from blocking the Supreme Court order.  Further, the 101st escorted the students to school to prevent further disorder.

 

So are we to take it that liberals here would have been in favor of the 9 Black students been futher prevented from desegregating the schools of Little Rock?  That is what apparently the feelings.

 

Now, what do you think about the Mexican crossing over the border and holding American soldiers at gunpoint.  That is the topic and do you condone that?

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Here is My Point

 

There are many reasons why - Possee Comitatis - was deemed necessary

 

Not the least of which any American Veteran should appreciate & hold Sacred

 

Americans Do Not Want The Lives of Their Soldiers to be used as Political Pawns especially in their own County

 

This Border Incident is a Wonderful Illustration of what can go wrong when you deploy American Soldiers in the United States for Domestic Political or Domestic Law Enforcement Purposes

 

It's of little value to a parent who receives a visit from a Representative of the Military informing them that their Son or Daughter was just killed by Mexican Soldiers but don't worry your Son or Daughter Technically & Legally according to a Whitehouse Lawyer was acting properly

 

 

 

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 

And still there is some who are more interested in partianism(sic) versus discussing the topic.


This isn't "partisan", so pay attention to it, it's from the source provided for you:

 

"the president explains his decision to order Federal troops to Little Rock to ensure that the students are allowed access to the school, as mandated by the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education".


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The question needs to be asked - and answered...

 

Since the Federal Troops at Little Rock were present to ensure that a Court Order was obeyed...

 

Can any Court Order be linked to that required the presence of US troops at the border with Mexico - or was tRump talking and giving orders entirely from the posterior - as he has been doing with considerable frequency for the last two years?

 

 

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You mean those murderous, rapists criminal Mexicans were abusing the US soldiers?  Oh how sorry, I guess the (sic) Trump should demand an explanation from the Mexican President. don't  you think?

 

Oh yeas (sic) the Democrats were there to incide (sic) the Mexicans to tak (sic) action really?  And you are fogetting (sic) Obama, I bet he was there also.


 


What I think is that someone is attempting to be fallacious but falling short.

 

Heard of spell-check?


Like I said before, Trump should complain to the Mexican President  and the Mexican President will no doubt extend his middle finger in all its glory.  I wish I was there to see that. After all what can you expect from all of those Mexicans that are all criminals, murderous, and rapists.?

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@ChasKy53 wrote:


Debating with anyone that ignores facts and history is futile at best, so no thanks.

 

 

 


Can you point out where I'm ignoring facts?  Perhaps you should review the history of that action.  The Democratic governor of Arkansas, Governor Faubus deployed the National Guard to PREVENT the 9 Black students from attending classes.  Then Eisenhower nationalized the guard, and deployed the 101st Airborne to depoliticize the situation and escort the students.

 

These paratroopers just escorted the protestors away from the site.

 

The mayor of Little Rock requested federal help after the Democratic (emphasis) governor allowed a riotious situation to develop.  Of course racial situations are still beneficial to liberals aren't they?

 

And still there is some who are more interested in partianism versus discussing the topic.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:




trump supporters go to great lengths to protect or support any of trump's actions ..... any of them.


Not as much as liberals do to change the topic for partisan reasons.  Nothing was said about Trump or his policies, but about the integrity of United States borders.  No doubt there are some who are ok with foreign military disarming Americans on our side?

 

Have a good day.


Debating with anyone that ignores facts and history is futile at best, so no thanks.

 

https://www.history.com/topics/black.../eisenhower-intervenes-in-little-rock-crisis-vide..

 

I am having a wonderful day, as always !


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