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There are millions of Americans who idolize and worship Comrade Trump. He's cleverly developed a cult, which means he can never do anything wrong in their eyes. He's never held accountable for lying, insulting ethnic groups, insulting individuals, or anything negative.


Under our system we have elections and the people pick the candidate they prefer. If that candidate gets elected and works towards fulfilling his or her campaign promises the people appreciate that.

 

Then there are other systems totally based on negativity and emotion wherein those whose candidate did not win spend their days attacking the winner with such overblown rhetoric as "Comrade" and attacking those who disagree with them as "cultists".

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There are millions of Americans who idolize and worship Comrade Trump. He's cleverly developed a cult, which means he can never do anything wrong in their eyes. He's never held accountable for lying, insulting ethnic groups, insulting individuals, or anything negative.

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Absolutely not and never have supported Trump even during campaign. I think he is a divider not a uniter; he has always talked nasty about immigrants and people with other religions, Muslims especially. I am neither an immigrant nor a Muslim, but I have know many of both as at one time I was an English as a Second Language instructor at a community college. I know that, just like every other group of people on earth, there are many who are wonderful, gentle people and some few that are not. Trump, however tried to ban all people from particular countries. Did you notice they all have darker skins? I do not have darker skin because my family came from Europe and Eastern Europe. And all came with no or little English. All of my family on all sides were poor and trying for a better life. But I have know many of darker skin who are trying for the same things my family did when they came to the US. All of any group of people are not automatically bad just because Trump says so. He lies. Check out ALL news sources, not just the one he endorses. 


Can you cite any examples of his speaking negatively about immigrants (without the word "illegal")? Can you cite any example of negative speaking about religions?

 

As to the banning - there was no banning. It was merely following Obama's advice of additional scrutiny of people coming from specific nations.

 

Seems like you do not like the President and are reaching for false (but Party line) reasons to justify your feelings.

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Absolutely not and never have supported Trump even during campaign. I think he is a divider not a uniter; he has always talked nasty about immigrants and people with other religions, Muslims especially. I am neither an immigrant nor a Muslim, but I have know many of both as at one time I was an English as a Second Language instructor at a community college. I know that, just like every other group of people on earth, there are many who are wonderful, gentle people and some few that are not. Trump, however tried to ban all people from particular countries. Did you notice they all have darker skins? I do not have darker skin because my family came from Europe and Eastern Europe. And all came with no or little English. All of my family on all sides were poor and trying for a better life. But I have know many of darker skin who are trying for the same things my family did when they came to the US. All of any group of people are not automatically bad just because Trump says so. He lies. Check out ALL news sources, not just the one he endorses. 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

Anymore, in everyday life, if someone says they support trump I simply smile and let out a very small chuckle. No sense in arguing or debating with trump supporters, their minds are closed and they are most often filled with anger .............  waiting for something or someone to let it out on.


"Hatred filled with anger" - have you ever seen one of us on the R(ight) side post "Dems suck"? Nope, just other insults and false accusations. 

For example - what compares to "Reps suck"?

And look at all of the hatred for the makers vs the takers here. And look at all of the hatred for the "takers" vs the "makers".

It isn't hatred. It is reminding people something they would rather overlook as they attack the self-sufficient.

Then there is the obsession with Nazis, fascists, Kluxers, alt-right, etc. etc. etc.  Then there is the obsession with "Marxist", "socialist", "dependency".

What do you compare the reality of "dependency" with - Nazis or fascists? Do you consider "socialist" on a par with Kluxers? Be careful, you might be calling some newly out of the closet Dems that. As to Marxism, it is a political ideology the same as Conservatism. As such, it is certainly worth open and honest discussion.

 

No chas- you on the other side own all that hate jazz. That pesky reality thing disagrees with your view on this.

You are going to have to find some new "reality". None of the above made the grade.


 


 


This also applies to your postings:  Anymore, in everyday life, if someone says they support trump I simply smile and let out a very small chuckle. No sense in arguing or debating with trump supporters, their minds are closed and they are most often filled with anger .............  waiting for something or someone to let it out on.


I understand your problem. Occasionally I run into someone who is of the neoMarxist belief. Some are great to discuss politics with. They have a deep understanding of their beliefs and an understanding of Conservatism.

 

But then there are those who have been used. They have been convinced that they are unable to make it on their own and need the government to "carry" them. They have been convinced that the successful did not make it on hard work, but rather they stole it from the less successful. So, their "discussion" involves 1% vs 99%, Nazis, fascists, racists, alt-right and the rest of the litany. Such people use such logic as "Republicans suck" and "the pig in the WH" while claiming to be of the intellectual elite who know more than others.

 

You're right, a smile and a pat on the head is the best reaction.

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Well, I guess we will have to see if hurricane Florence makes landfall on our Shores. Since the Trump Administration, has had prior experience in dealing with hurricanes during his first year in office. I just hope that the Government response is swift. I would hope that  better response plans have been put in place.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Anymore, in everyday life, if someone says they support trump I simply smile and let out a very small chuckle. No sense in arguing or debating with trump supporters, their minds are closed and they are most often filled with anger .............  waiting for something or someone to let it out on.


"Hatred filled with anger" - have you ever seen one of us on the R(ight) side post "Dems suck"? Nope, just other insults and false accusations. 

For example - what compares to "Reps suck"?

And look at all of the hatred for the makers vs the takers here. And look at all of the hatred for the "takers" vs the "makers".

It isn't hatred. It is reminding people something they would rather overlook as they attack the self-sufficient.

Then there is the obsession with Nazis, fascists, Kluxers, alt-right, etc. etc. etc.  Then there is the obsession with "Marxist", "socialist", "dependency".

What do you compare the reality of "dependency" with - Nazis or fascists? Do you consider "socialist" on a par with Kluxers? Be careful, you might be calling some newly out of the closet Dems that. As to Marxism, it is a political ideology the same as Conservatism. As such, it is certainly worth open and honest discussion.

 

No chas- you on the other side own all that hate jazz. That pesky reality thing disagrees with your view on this.

You are going to have to find some new "reality". None of the above made the grade.


 


 


This also applies to your postings:  Anymore, in everyday life, if someone says they support trump I simply smile and let out a very small chuckle. No sense in arguing or debating with trump supporters, their minds are closed and they are most often filled with anger .............  waiting for something or someone to let it out on.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Anymore, in everyday life, if someone says they support trump I simply smile and let out a very small chuckle. No sense in arguing or debating with trump supporters, their minds are closed and they are most often filled with anger .............  waiting for something or someone to let it out on.


"Hatred filled with anger" - have you ever seen one of us on the R(ight) side post "Dems suck"? Nope, just other insults and false accusations. 

For example - what compares to "Reps suck"?

And look at all of the hatred for the makers vs the takers here. And look at all of the hatred for the "takers" vs the "makers".

It isn't hatred. It is reminding people something they would rather overlook as they attack the self-sufficient.

Then there is the obsession with Nazis, fascists, Kluxers, alt-right, etc. etc. etc.  Then there is the obsession with "Marxist", "socialist", "dependency".

What do you compare the reality of "dependency" with - Nazis or fascists? Do you consider "socialist" on a par with Kluxers? Be careful, you might be calling some newly out of the closet Dems that. As to Marxism, it is a political ideology the same as Conservatism. As such, it is certainly worth open and honest discussion.

 

No chas- you on the other side own all that hate jazz. That pesky reality thing disagrees with your view on this.

You are going to have to find some new "reality". None of the above made the grade.


 


 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

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Is there any point of asking the question in the title of the thread to RK?


Any thoughts on the wisdom in rk's response?


There was no "wisdom" to have thoughts about.


Do you have any topic related thoughts on rk's comments about the topic?


I responded directly to what you posted about "wisdom", so if I was off topic then I guess you were.


Do you have any topic related thoughts on rk's comments about the topic?


Yep, there was no wisdom in them.


No, that is petty, personal and insulting. What about the thoughts do you disagree with and why? That is the basis of "discussion".

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Anymore, in everyday life, if someone says they support trump I simply smile and let out a very small chuckle. No sense in arguing or debating with trump supporters, their minds are closed and they are most often filled with anger .............  waiting for something or someone to let it out on.


"Hatred filled with anger" - have you ever seen one of us on the R(ight) side post "Dems suck"? Nope, just other insults and false accusations. 

And look at all of the hatred for the makers vs the takers here. And look at all of the hatred for the "takers" vs the "makers".

Then there is the obsession with Nazis, fascists, Kluxers, alt-right, etc. etc. etc.  Then there is the obsession with "Marxist", "socialist", "dependency".

 

No chas- you on the other side own all that hate jazz. That pesky reality thing disagrees with your view on this.


 


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