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Anyone here still support Trump?

Now that we have seen him in action for a while, is anyone here still a supporter?

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Another to the point list. It would seem to show that if Obama had done “2 “ of the items on the list, he would have been in the middle of impeachment proceedings by the repubs, two years into his term. 

You also noted trying to rationally explain reality to a trump supporter...reality does not work for those that believe trump’s lies, and it would seem that they also “enjoy” being lied to. Psychologically it would seem to be the same scenario as being in an abusive relationship...and trump is certainly good at being abusive. 

 

And once again, I have not, do not, and will not support trump. I have personal respect for myself, and refuse to suffer the lies and abuse by trump...would like to see more trump supporters develop more inner strength and a moral code in denouncing trump. 

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@CriticalThinking 

Another to the point list. It would seem to show that if Obama had done “2 “ of the items on the list, he would have been in the middle of impeachment proceedings by the repubs, two years into his term. 

You also noted trying to rationally explain reality to a trump supporter...reality does not work for those that believe trump’s lies, and it would seem that they also “enjoy” being lied to. Psychologically it would seem to be the same scenario as being in an abusive relationship...and trump is certainly good at being abusive. 

 

And once again, I have not, do not, and will not support trump. I have personal respect for myself, and refuse to suffer the lies and abuse by trump...would like to see more trump supporters develop more inner strength and a moral code in denouncing trump. 


Step one in getting a 40% er eyes open is to get them past the flat earth theory. 

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@cn5621 

Flat earth theory = Socialist tag theory?

 

How about programs for the common good of all citizens!

Supporting a liar, who deserves no respect, is not for the common good of all citizens. 

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This explains everything!!!

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Do Trump Lovers ever read or do basic research? No, they depend on FOX for everything.

 

"Who’s winning the US-China trade war? When it comes to soybeans, the answer is Brazil. The South American nation is capitalizing on the strife caused by US President Donald Trump’s trade war to profit from both China and America in soybean trade.

 

China has been the biggest buyer of US soybean in recent years, but as imports have become caught up in Beijing and Washington’s tariffs.

 

As a result, US soybean prices have fallen by 20 per cent since April to their lowest price in nearly a decade, while the Brazilian crop is being sold at a premium, according to industry watchers."

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Critical wrote-As a result, US soybean prices have fallen by 20 per cent since April to their lowest price in nearly a decade, while the Brazilian crop is being sold at a premium, according to industry watchers.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Whaaat? You mean there  our countries willing to pay premium prices then pay a cheaper price from our country?Doesn`t make sense. Who are these supposed industry watchers?  They have to be part of the fake news media.

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@easyed598 wrote:

Critical wrote-As a result, US soybean prices have fallen by 20 per cent since April to their lowest price in nearly a decade, while the Brazilian crop is being sold at a premium, according to industry watchers.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who are these supposed industry watchers?


They are fake Americans - fake humans - who support and voted for tRump...

 

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PanJ replied to EasyEd by sayng , "Easy Ed: The main difference is that the subsidies will be paid for with the new tarrifs we collect from China."

 

Why is this so difficult? We are collecting ZERO  tariffs from China. It is paid for 100% by whoever is importing goods from China. The company doing the importing pays the tariff which they then get back from the consumer by raising prices. Got that now?

 

PanJ, I'm having the same problem with another Trump Lover in a thread on the deficit/debt. I write the facts, he changes them, and interprets them using Trump Logic. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do for those who refuse to accept FACTS.

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Dear @CriticalThinking

Please don't let these Trumpers get your goat or cause you to bust a gut.  They don't get what you're saying cuz they can't!  You see, sound doctrine and common sense have been overtaken by daily feedings of Faux News propaganda and Trump indoctrination speeches filled with "alternative facts" (i. e. lies).  So like that poor senseless fish in the cooler, they been hauled in hook, line, and sinker. Done!

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Anyone else think that if we Nuke a hurricane, that's a bad idea. Why would the President come up with such plan.

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@n566192l wrote:

Anyone else think that if we Nuke a hurricane, that's a bad idea. Why would the President come up with such plan.


Easy answer. We have been told Trump has mental problems and is not fit to be President  by the mental health experts. Trump proves them correct every day with nonsense like this.

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@john258 wrote:

@n566192l wrote:

Anyone else think that if we Nuke a hurricane, that's a bad idea. Why would the President come up with such plan.


Easy answer. We have been told Trump has mental problems and is not fit to be President  by the mental health experts. Trump proves them correct every day with nonsense like this.


Extreme stupidity has at times masked itself as insanity but in this case, I think they go hand in hand. 

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easyed598:  The main difference is that the subsidies will be paid for with the new tarrifs we collect from China.

 

 

Why is this so difficult? We are collecting ZERO  tariffs from China. It is paid for 100% by whoever is importing goods from China. The company doing the importing pays the tariff which they then get back from the consumer by raising prices. Got that now?

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Panj wrote-. The company doing the importing pays the tariff which they then get back from the consumer by raising prices. Got that now?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This works both way. It is the chinese consumer who pay the tarrifs on what we import to them (food). Oh that `s right ,both countries are doing subsidies.  We can live without their I-Phones. Can they live without our food? Got it now?

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@easyed598 wrote:

Panj wrote-. The company doing the importing pays the tariff which they then get back from the consumer by raising prices. Got that now?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This works both way. It is the chinese consumer who pay the tarrifs on what we import to them (food). Oh that `s right ,both countries are doing subsidies.  We can live without their I-Phones. Can they live without our food? Got it now?


We are not the only country on earth the Chinese can buy food from.  

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He needs to go
With all due respect, anyone who votes for Trump and his cronies is not only voting against their self interests but also the interests of the USA
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DONNA WROTE-He needs to go
With all due respect, anyone who votes for Trump and his cronies is not only voting against their self interests but also the interests of the USA--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Most people I know are much happier under a Trump administration than when Obama  was President.Do we we really want to go back to an Obama  era economy and the dozens of verified scandals which under a socialist government we are certain to have.

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@easyed598 wrote:


DONNA WROTE-He needs to go
With all due respect, anyone who votes for Trump and his cronies is not only voting against their self interests but also the interests of the USA--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Most people I know are much happier under a Trump administration than when Obama  was President.Do we we really want to go back to an Obama  era economy and the dozens of verified scandals which under a socialist government we are certain to have.


"Most people you know" would be a pretty skewed statistical sample. Economically, the Trump recession has not really started yet but he has made the opposite decision of recommended capitalist economic policies at every turn. 

 

I also have to point out that the Trump scandals and his Socialist policies toward the farmers he is giving state subsidies are almost as much as Obama gave every taxpayer in order to fight the Bush Recession.

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Richva wrote-I also have to point out that the Trump scandals and his Socialist policies toward the farmers he is giving state subsidies are almost as much as Obama gave every taxpayer in order to fight the Bush Recession.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What do you have against farmers.? We been giving subsides to farmers since Jesus wore short pants.   The main difference is that the subsidies will be paid for with the new tarrifs we collect from China. Past Presidents paid for them out of the taxpayers pocket.  BTW-What exact Trump scandals are we talking about?  (no collusion)Manafort not paying taxes isn`t a Trump scandal and other  crimes by other people committed 10 years before Trump thought about running for President.

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@easyed598 wrote:What do you have against farmers.? We been giving subsides to farmers since Jesus wore short pants.   The main difference is that the subsidies will be paid for with the new tarrifs we collect from China. Past Presidents paid for them out of the taxpayers pocket.  BTW-What exact Trump scandals are we talking about?  (no collusion)Manafort not paying taxes isn`t a Trump scandal and other  crimes by other people committed 10 years before Trump thought about running for President.


I don't have anything against farmers, or restaurant owners, or truckers or any other business. I just believe that we should have a capitalist system where, when the market disappears, like China, the businesses which served that market should compete for the remaining business opportunities.  I do NOT believe in the Socialist State Support that Trump is giving using the import taxes he has been imposing on American consumers and manufacturers. 

 

What do YOU think should happen to industries for which there is no longer a market?  State support for buggy whip and hula hoop manufacturing?  Perhaps a return to the days of government warehouses full of cheese?   

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@easyed598 wrote:

 

Richva wrote-I also have to point out that the Trump scandals and his Socialist policies toward the farmers he is giving state subsidies are almost as much as Obama gave every taxpayer in order to fight the Bush Recession.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What do you have against farmers.? We been giving subsides to farmers since Jesus wore short pants.   The main difference is that the subsidies will be paid for with the new tarrifs we collect from China. Past Presidents paid for them out of the taxpayers pocket.  BTW-What exact Trump scandals are we talking about?  (no collusion)Manafort not paying taxes isn`t a Trump scandal and other  crimes by other people committed 10 years before Trump thought about running for President.


American consumers pay tariffs. No different than using taxpayers’ money. Just taking Americans’ money from a different pocket.

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Tracy, the dedicated support of Trump is a cult, as they exhibit all the behavior of a cult. That's why they don't see anything wrong with the failure of the Trump administration to protect America from Russian cyber attacks. In a cult, protecting their Supreme Leader, is more important than anything else.

 

In this forum, you won't find a single post from any of Trump's supporters over the past 4 years where any of them ever disagreed with or criiticized Trump. That is incredible and it's pure cult behavior.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Tracy, the dedicated support of Trump is a cult, as they exhibit all the behavior of a cult. That's why they don't see anything wrong with the failure of the Trump administration to protect America from Russian cyber attacks. In a cult, protecting their Supreme Leader, is more important than anything else.

 

In this forum, you won't find a single post from any of Trump's supporters over the past 4 years where any of them ever disagreed with or criticized Trump. That is incredible and it's pure cult behavior.


Os there a 'crack' in trump's cult? Many who supported him here hardly post anymore. Some avid trump supporters on the national stage have now rejected him, even many within the Republican Party. But ............ there are true cultists who will never waiver.


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
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Excellent question because if anyone says YES.....I for one would be interested in knowing why.   

 

Just read this recently ....and another reason NOT TO VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN  EVER ....even as we are another decade they still don't want to have affordable access to healthcare.     .  

Tom DeLay, Dennis Hastert, held open a bill in 2004 for 14 hours to bludgeon enough members in the US House to pass a bill preventing competition between drug companies, generic drugs from entering the market and the government from negotiating for better prices.       The Senate also enacted this and Bush 43 signed it into law.   

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Support trump?  I never did and I never will.

 

Support trump?  Logic says that more and more should be answering "no" now ................ but then there is no logic when it comes to trump supporters.


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
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Have not!

Do not!

Will not!

trump is not worthy nor honest!

trump is incompetent!

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I never did !

Never will !

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I support Trump...

 

 

BEING VOTED OUT OF OFFICE!

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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Never did.

 

Never will!

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No, I do not,have not and will not ever support Trump.
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