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Another friendship lost over Trump

Another friendship lost over Trump

 

Over the course of the past three years, I’ve had some acquaintanceships and casual friendships end because of my support of President Trump, never once by my choice.

 

All of these were lost well before the president's daily briefings and other actions regarding the COVID-19 crisis. These briefings and his response to the virus, I’ve discovered, have only amplified the anger within those who cannot stand the president.

 

One casual friendship abruptly ended last year because I would not acknowledge that Trump is a climate change denier who advances the insidious goal of killing off humanity. The person making that charge is an accomplished executive.

 

When I politely asked over the phone if this person truly believes Trump’s ultimate “goal” is to kill off the world — including his children, grandchildren and future Trump generations — my friend screamed at me and then hung up, forever.

 

Many who dare to even respectfully defend this president have become familiar with such rage-induced responses.

 

A number of Trump supporters, from every walk of life, sadly have come to accept being ostracized by colleagues, friends, neighbors and acquaintances who literally (and sometimes irrationally) hate the president. It has become a painful reality.

 

While this isn't the first time a president has inspired such division or outright hatred in relatively modern times — the animosities involving former Presidents Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Nixon in the 1960s and 1970s come to mind — those involving Trump seem deeper, more bitter and seemingly permanent. And not just because they are current.

 

I knew one person whose 35-year friendship ended when her friend learned that she voted for Donald Trump. Again, the Trump voter tolerated screaming over the phone and was told, “You are now dead to me.” The fact that the woman who voted for Trump was the godmother of the other woman’s son mattered not at all. Worse than losing that lifelong friendship was the added pain of being told that her godson now also wants nothing to do with her.

 

I had sympathy for this woman but questioned how strong the friendship truly could have been if, after more than 30 years, it could end quickly in such a petty, spiteful way. Certainly, I thought to myself, my long-term friendships are much deeper; they’re unbreakable. 

 

That mistaken belief was just shattered. A close friendship of 30 years became one more victim of the “cancel culture” — this time, via text.

 

Unless asked, I tend not to talk politics with family or friends. I have lived it, one way or the other, for the past few decades. To be honest, I’d much rather talk about entertainment, travel, books or sports, especially because of the polarizing, anti-Trump times we live in.

 

As soon as Trump was elected, my friend of three decades began to complain about him. I ignored his regular rants and kept to my “safe” subjects. A few months in, he dialed up the anger and conspiracy theories. Still, I refused to take the bait. I’d talk about memories from work or ask about his family.  

 

But his anger soon turned to rage. I would get screeds by text saying that Trump was going to install landmines across the U.S.-Mexico border, that he was going to “authorize trigger-happy Trump vigilantes” to shoot anyone who made it through the minefield and that Trump was going to suspend the Constitution to remain president for life.

 

All this from a once close friend who is an incredibly good, decent person, a family man with a wife and children, someone considered to be part of the bedrock of his community.

 

When the news broke a couple of months ago that President Trump was exploring how best to remove Obama administration holdovers and “Never Trumpers” from his own administration — as is his right — my friend pounced again, declaring, “This proves he is a dictator.”

 

I tried to explain that this is standard operating procedure for any president, from either party. Former President Obama did the same things, and because of Trump’s flawed and incompetent transition process, he is way behind schedule to do something that should have been handled during the first week of his administration. To this, my friend replied that he no longer can tolerate my defense of this “dictator” and that continuing our friendship is impossible.

 

No doubt some people who openly profess their hatred of Trump will applaud and encourage the end of friendships, relationships and perhaps even marriages if anyone dares to defend the president and his policies. They should not. 

 

The #Resistance against Trump and his supporters is morphing into outright anarchy, sometimes triggering violence. These are dangerous places, full of slippery slopes, copycat minds and lines that never should be crossed — again, especially in the midst of the public health emergency. The best way for someone who doesn’t like Trump to exercise control is to vote against him in November.  

 

With regard to colleagues, friends, neighbors and relatives who might support the president, instead of hating them and ending relationships, try celebrating the fact that in America we are still allowed to believe, worship and vote as we please. Totalitarian groupthink victory for either side will be the end of us all.   

 

Douglas MacKinnon, a political and communications consultant, was a writer in the White House for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and former special assistant for policy and communications at the Pentagon during the last three years of the Bush administration.

 

Another friendship lost over Trump 

 

It's nice to see many are severing relationships and calling out those who embraced trump's bigotry and hatred for anyone that disagree's with his narrow-minded ways. Why would any loving, caring and honest person EVER embrace what this man stands for?  


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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I find it impossible to comprehend how any one can defend Trump. It terrifies me that any American can applaud a clearly tyrannical, narcissistic, increasingly unhinged president. Try as I do, to not let people’s political opinions impact my take on them, once I pick up an inkling of pro Trump sentiment I am repulsed. As Trump becomes harder to defend, his followers are getting downright hostile. How embarrassing it must be for them to witness their self professed “Chosen One” make America pitied internationally due to his never ending antics.
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    There are a myriad of ways to be active in politics but stay above the fray.     One can work to Register Voters,  make sure that people can Vote by Mail ( depending on State rules), become an election judge or a Poll Monitor ( which is relatively new in TX).   All of those activities require you be wear a non-partisan hat.      I do report anyone who is volunteering in any of those roles who can't behave accordingly.

 

     Well, that and stay away from the crazy on social media!  

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Heh, I wondered where you were going with this post, Centrist.   

 

For people who aren't impacted by poor policy (and I'm being generous here, because I think Trump is doing what he does precisely to inflict pain on people*), staying out of politics is privilege.  Of course they don't have to get involved -- they aren't the ones getting hurt.  But for anyone who's been part of a historically oppressed group, they have no choice but to be involved in politics until Constitutional rights are extended to everyone -- regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, place of origin, sexual orientation, or gender.  

 

 

 

 

*His pointless termination of DACA, which hurts only innocent children, is just one of many examples. 

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I have family members who are faithful viewers of CNN. Others tune in regularly to FOX News. After watching the TV News you can sometimes see the serious looks on their faces. It's like tension is building. One of them will always bring up the news...and politics. Sometimes an argument ensues. I tell them to avoid cable news as much as possible.

 

They'll argue amongst themselves but seldom argue with me when I state my position. I think it's because they know I don't give a hoot about political parties.

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@gordyfl wrote:

I have family members who are faithful views of CNN. Others tune in regularly to FOX News. After watching the TV News you can sometimes see the serious looks on their faces. It's like tension is building. One of them will always bring up the news...and politics. Sometimes an argument ensues. I tell them to avoid cable news as much as possible.

 

They'll argue amongst themselves but seldom argue with me when I state my position. I think it's because they know I don't give a hoot about political parties.


It's a good thing they aren't msnbc and One America News viewers....the swat team would have to be on-call....


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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Whole thing reads like a satire.

 

I will now play the world's tiniest violin for him.

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My sister's neighbor, who she is friends with...for 25 years, and still is... used to complain to her about Trump during the first year of his presidency. My sister had not voted forTrump yet saw no need to join in the harp-fest.

 

But my sister does not suffer fools gladly. And she would not listen to the complaints of this woman about Trump, when the neighbor had voted for Trump herself and was now disenchanted with him on multiple fronts. "But I didn't know he was going to do [insert action here]" was whinged repeatedly. To which my sister would reply unsympathetically, until eventually they would not discuss Trump's actions or behavior, as it was too upsetting to my sister to have this woman who had helped to inflict this scourge then whine about it.

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@fffred wrote:

My sister's neighbor, who she is friends with...for 25 years, and still is... used to complain to her about Trump during the first year of his presidency. My sister had not voted forTrump yet saw no need to join in the harp-fest.

 

But my sister does not suffer fools gladly. And she would not listen to the complaints of this woman about Trump, when the neighbor had voted for Trump herself and was now disenchanted with him on multiple fronts. "But I didn't know he was going to do [insert action here]" was whinged repeatedly. To which my sister would reply unsympathetically, until eventually they would not discuss Trump's actions or behavior, as it was too upsetting to my sister to have this woman who had helped to inflict this scourge then whine about it.


Yep, elections have consequences.  Take your right to vote seriously and vote responsibly.  It's doesn't take much effort. Just look at one's past; it's an excellent example of how they'll act in the future.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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Another friendship lost over Trump

 

You're known by the company you keep,  if you embrace an bleephole you end up smelling like one.

 

He could just go with old school etiquette,  don't talk religion or politics.

 

Much less publish his feelings and I guess look for sympathy?

 

Maybe he's trying to make us feel guilty for shunning the Trump Party.

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