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Re: Alternate to Capitalism

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Rk, I just notified the moderators on your last post, adn will continue doing it to any poster that does not have the courtesy of not deleting previous posts please, please take the time to view your post and see why is it that you cannot delete anything previous and subject us all to the post of completely non readable material.

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Re: Alternate to Capitalism

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@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

 


 

Any ideas??


A - Yes, many, however, I decline to post them.


Interesting - so many words, and no ideas that can be posted. Sorta misses the point of "discussion board".


There's no need to engage in personal attack and personal insult.

B - Just admit that the points my posts made completely escaped you...


A does not lead to B.


The red highlighted portion of my post refers to points and posts - both plurals - meaning that multiple points from multiple posts are referred to that clearly must be considered - how many posts?  The last fifty will do for a start...

 

The childishly simplistic response is obviously conpletely inadequate - something else that may be an indication that a great many essential and critical meanings may have escaped notice as well as logical and rational cognitive consideration...

 

Words have meanings...


Yes they do. Now, would you care to use some to define your position on the issue rather than on evading the issue??

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Re: Alternate to Capitalism

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@jimc91 wrote:

 



@jimc91 wrote:

@rk9152, I am close to giving up on this forum.  The left here only seem to be interested in baiting, insulting and ridicule anyone that views the world different from their very far left ideology.

 

Anyone that watched that film and then referred to the JBS is just baiting, or did not watch the video at all and chose to just ridicule other posters.

 

It appears there are NO MORE moderate posters on this forum from the left, I guess TDS wiped them all out.  

 

Just think what the democratic party will look like after 4 years of TDS, Perez and Keith Ellison at the helm.  They sound like they want a civil war.  I sure hope someone with some common sense rises to the occasion on their side of the isle but it does not look hopeful...

 

 


      YOU PROMISE?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

 


 

Any ideas??


A - Yes, many, however, I decline to post them.


Interesting - so many words, and no ideas that can be posted. Sorta misses the point of "discussion board".


There's no need to engage in personal attack and personal insult.

B - Just admit that the points my posts made completely escaped you...


A does not lead to B.


The red highlighted portion of my post refers to points and posts - both plurals - meaning that multiple points from multiple posts are referred to that clearly must be considered - how many posts?  The last fifty will do for a start...

 

The childishly simplistic response is obviously conpletely inadequate - something else that may be an indication that a great many essential and critical meanings may have escaped notice as well as logical and rational cognitive consideration...

 

Words have meanings...

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 


 

Any ideas??


A - Yes, many, however, I decline to post them.


Interesting - so many words, and no ideas that can be posted. Sorta misses the point of "discussion board".


There's no need to engage in personal attack and personal insult.

B - Just admit that the points my posts made completely escaped you...


A does not lead to B.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 


Where did I assume wrong? Alferd said "end of discussion" are you speaking for him or her or it now?

 


I am speaking for myself.

 

Am I discussing this with a "him" or "her" or "it"?

 

My opinion is that mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy portion of socialism work best.

 

Nothing else to discuss about it.


Oh yes, there is much to discuss about it. For example, there are those who equate socialism with having libraries, I believe you have opined along those lines. But we are talking about the economy.

 

I have said that I believe that the government has an important responsibility in keeping the free market free. I do not see that at socialism. 

 

So, how do you see "socialism" fitting in to the economic model?


Wrong again.

 

Both Chasky53 and alferdpacker used essentially identical words - "mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy dose of socialism"

 

Can one discuss the taste and effect of sweet iced tea or Merlot by separating the elements/ingredients and considering them separately when considering the tastes and effects of the mixtures upon humans?  

 

Of course not - not only is it impossible to consider anything other than the mixture's effects upon humans. - the result would be completely invalid were one to make an attempt to separate the elements of a mixture - make measurements and draw conclusions based upon those measurements.

 

As an easily understood example - one cannot validly examine or properly measure the action and effects of oxidation of gasoline in a reciprocating four stroke engine by considering Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen separately, and then trying to examine the metals separately.

 

Realistically, the actions and effects of a gasoline engine are much less complex than the interactions of a mixture of limited free market capitalism, socialism and human beings.

 

Another bogus attempt to make overly simplistic unequal comparisons and draw invalid conclusions.  

 

Another example of that simplistic grade school level republican/conservative "thinking" in action...

 


No, good neighbor, not "wrong again:. I have been saying that the government has an important role in keeping the free market free.

 

As always  - the extraneous. This has nothing to do with Merlot nor iced tea nor carbon nor oxygen nor hydrogen nor oxidization nor gasoline nor metals nor republican/conservative thinking. Rather it is a very basic issue - to what extent do we "socialize" the economy.

 

Any ideas??


Yes, many, however, I decline to post them.


Interesting - so many words, and no ideas that can be posted. Sorta misses the point of "discussion board".


There's no need to engage in personal attack and personal insult.

Just admit that the points my posts made completely escaped you...

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@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 


Where did I assume wrong? Alferd said "end of discussion" are you speaking for him or her or it now?

 


I am speaking for myself.

 

Am I discussing this with a "him" or "her" or "it"?

 

My opinion is that mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy portion of socialism work best.

 

Nothing else to discuss about it.


Oh yes, there is much to discuss about it. For example, there are those who equate socialism with having libraries, I believe you have opined along those lines. But we are talking about the economy.

 

I have said that I believe that the government has an important responsibility in keeping the free market free. I do not see that at socialism. 

 

So, how do you see "socialism" fitting in to the economic model?


Wrong again.

 

Both Chasky53 and alferdpacker used essentially identical words - "mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy dose of socialism"

 

Can one discuss the taste and effect of sweet iced tea or Merlot by separating the elements/ingredients and considering them separately when considering the tastes and effects of the mixtures upon humans?  

 

Of course not - not only is it impossible to consider anything other than the mixture's effects upon humans. - the result would be completely invalid were one to make an attempt to separate the elements of a mixture - make measurements and draw conclusions based upon those measurements.

 

As an easily understood example - one cannot validly examine or properly measure the action and effects of oxidation of gasoline in a reciprocating four stroke engine by considering Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen separately, and then trying to examine the metals separately.

 

Realistically, the actions and effects of a gasoline engine are much less complex than the interactions of a mixture of limited free market capitalism, socialism and human beings.

 

Another bogus attempt to make overly simplistic unequal comparisons and draw invalid conclusions.  

 

Another example of that simplistic grade school level republican/conservative "thinking" in action...

 


No, good neighbor, not "wrong again:. I have been saying that the government has an important role in keeping the free market free.

 

As always  - the extraneous. This has nothing to do with Merlot nor iced tea nor carbon nor oxygen nor hydrogen nor oxidization nor gasoline nor metals nor republican/conservative thinking. Rather it is a very basic issue - to what extent do we "socialize" the economy.

 

Any ideas??


Yes, many, however, I decline to post them.


Interesting - so many words, and no ideas that can be posted. Sorta misses the point of "discussion board".


 

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Re: Alternate to Capitalism

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

So, how do you see "socialism" fitting in to the economic model?


Try and focus on this:

 

My opinion is that mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy portion of socialism work best.

 

Nothing else to discuss about it.


Sounds like you are having a problem identifying the "socialism" element of your proper mix in the economy.


Sounds like you are having a problem accepting anyone else's position on this.


Not "accepting", chas - understanding.

 

Once again - how do you see a "healthy portion of socialism" in the economy? Not food stamps or libraries but in the actual functioning of the economy.

 

Considering the topic, that certainly seems like a reasonable area to get into.

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@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 


Where did I assume wrong? Alferd said "end of discussion" are you speaking for him or her or it now?

 


I am speaking for myself.

 

Am I discussing this with a "him" or "her" or "it"?

 

My opinion is that mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy portion of socialism work best.

 

Nothing else to discuss about it.


Oh yes, there is much to discuss about it. For example, there are those who equate socialism with having libraries, I believe you have opined along those lines. But we are talking about the economy.

 

I have said that I believe that the government has an important responsibility in keeping the free market free. I do not see that at socialism. 

 

So, how do you see "socialism" fitting in to the economic model?


Wrong again.

 

Both Chasky53 and alferdpacker used essentially identical words - "mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy dose of socialism"

 

Can one discuss the taste and effect of sweet iced tea or Merlot by separating the elements/ingredients and considering them separately when considering the tastes and effects of the mixtures upon humans?  

 

Of course not - not only is it impossible to consider anything other than the mixture's effects upon humans. - the result would be completely invalid were one to make an attempt to separate the elements of a mixture - make measurements and draw conclusions based upon those measurements.

 

As an easily understood example - one cannot validly examine or properly measure the action and effects of oxidation of gasoline in a reciprocating four stroke engine by considering Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen separately, and then trying to examine the metals separately.

 

Realistically, the actions and effects of a gasoline engine are much less complex than the interactions of a mixture of limited free market capitalism, socialism and human beings.

 

Another bogus attempt to make overly simplistic unequal comparisons and draw invalid conclusions.  

 

Another example of that simplistic grade school level republican/conservative "thinking" in action...

 


No, good neighbor, not "wrong again:. I have been saying that the government has an important role in keeping the free market free.

 

As always  - the extraneous. This has nothing to do with Merlot nor iced tea nor carbon nor oxygen nor hydrogen nor oxidization nor gasoline nor metals nor republican/conservative thinking. Rather it is a very basic issue - to what extent do we "socialize" the economy.

 

Any ideas??


Yes, many, however, I decline to post them.


Interesting - so many words, and no ideas that can be posted. Sorta misses the point of "discussion board".

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Re: Alternate to Capitalism

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

So, how do you see "socialism" fitting in to the economic model?


Try and focus on this:

 

My opinion is that mixtures of limited free market capitalism and a healthy portion of socialism work best.

 

Nothing else to discuss about it.


Sounds like you are having a problem identifying the "socialism" element of your proper mix in the economy.


Sounds like you are having a problem accepting anyone else's position on this.


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