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I watched those youtube videos...

 

It's a crying shame...

 

If Reagan hadn't cut mental health funding so severely - the probability is that today - those poor unfortunate souls wouldn't be suffering from those strange, perverted, and twisted delusional beliefs...

 


Any thoughts on the topic?? 


I posted my thoughts on the subject matter of the videos you posted links to.

Those links to youtube videos WERE "on topic"-  weren't they?

 

I have posted my profound concern for the long term emotional stability of the poor delusional unfortunates in the so-called "alt-right" movement...

 

alt-right?   It's obviously nothing but a bogus series of bigoted, prejudiced, racist rationalizations for unconstitutional attempts to violate portions of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment - a series of actions the majority of American Citizens do not believe is at all moral, ethical, or constitutionally lawful...

 


Any thoughts on the topic - the definition of the term??


Define?

 

The fact that the Alt-Right embraced Milo Yiannopoulos - and tried to ignore the fact that he was/is a homosexual pedophile - before the fact was thrown in their faces dozens of times daily clearly defines the quality of character of those in the Alt-Right - a group initially founded by a former Ku Klux Klan leader.

 

Yep - real high quality folks - if pedophile loving racists is your cup of tea...


Got it - it was too much trouble to actually familiarize yourself with the topic.

Nope .... You don't "got it " as his comments clearly expressed great knowledge of "the topic" and your intent to deceive.

 

So, instead - the usual nasty verbosity.

Wrong again. He identified your attempt to deceive.

"So, instead" - you resort to "the usual nasty" disparaging and coy responses!


 


Did you have something to say on the topic?


I already did .... as did all the other posters you addressed with the same accusatory question.

 

So once again .... "The topic" is nothing more than your "deception" of what the Alt-right stands for.

 

As such, the REAL question is "why do you keep asking questions for which the answers were already given?

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@MIseker wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely defined group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in favor of white nationalism. White supremacist[1] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism, and did so according to the Associated Press to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, and neo-Nazism.[2][3][4] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 US presidential election.[5]
Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic, and white supremacist,[6][7][8] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[9][10][11] nativism and Islamophobia,[12][13][14][15][16] antifeminism and homophobia,[9][17][18][19] right-wing populism,[20][21] and the neoreactionary movement.[6][22] The concept has further been associated with several groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates, and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[12][21][22][23][24]

plenty more at WIKI.


Neither WIKI nor the AP are posters here. I wonder what MIseker thought after watching the films (or any other diverse factual sources) offered and formed his/her or it's own opinion.

 

That is sort of the essence of "discussion".


Good point, but a tad strange coming from someone who insists everyone ELSE only post information gleaned from "official" sources HE deems reliable.


You may be referring to the poster who will not even read a quote from a person if it is reported by Breitbart, Fox news, Washington Times, etc.

 

Now, back to my post - do you not agree with my definition of "discussion"? If so, what views do you have from your research on the topic of the alt-right?

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rk9152:  Unfortunately, it takes more than snide remarks and insults to acquire the needed information. And some of our fellow posters simply do not want their minds clouded by information. 

 

 

That's very ture......some work hard to throw shade over what is crystal clear. Richard Spencer is a white Supremacist who coined the term "alt-right" in an attempt to soften the image and try to make his ilk more acceptable . That's very clear.


Many of our posters do claim mind reading abilities, such as knowing what was behind Spencer's thinking - I make no such claim.

 

I was fascinated by the guy because he is a white supremacist but he thinks that everyone should be a "supremacist" of whatever "brand" they are. He, for example, thinks that other races, nationalities, or whatever is constantly used to separate us should be proud of their roots, proud of what they are.

 

He sees the so called "melting pot" of America as a fraud - something built on denial, a denial of our differences. He doesn't go this far but I believe we should all embrace our differences while being accepting of others - positive, not the negativism of denial

 

I am not a fan of "identity politics" - the mainstay of the Democratic  Party for a long time. But he is 100% for "identity politics" - but in a different way. He suggests people be proud. As an example of this, we have "Black Pride, we have "Gay Pride" but "White Pride" is unacceptable. Wanting to have "Pride" just like anyone else is hardly negative. Yet some will immediately jump on this and type Nazi or Kluxer. Sadly, that reflects an inability or an unwillingness to think of something new or different - and that is sad.

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@rk9152 wrote:

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rk9152:   O.K. then what has he written that is wrong? 

 

 

Some friendly advice: make sure your next PC is equipped with Google. Smiley Happy


Google does not provide interpretations, only sites. As a matter of fact, google led me to the youtube items I posted.

 

Now, back to the topic. Some of our posters have through ignorance combined everyone to the right of Che Guevara as "alt-right" even our President. That is why I took the trouble to find out just what he meant by alt-right and I can tell you that such mass groupings are inaccurate.

 

Unfortunately, it takes more than snide remarks and insults to acquire the needed information. And some of our fellow posters simply do not want their minds clouded by information. 

As clearly demonstrated by your disparaging and coy replies.


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely defined group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in favor of white nationalism. White supremacist[1] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism, and did so according to the Associated Press to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, and neo-Nazism.[2][3][4] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 US presidential election.[5]
Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic, and white supremacist,[6][7][8] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[9][10][11] nativism and Islamophobia,[12][13][14][15][16] antifeminism and homophobia,[9][17][18][19] right-wing populism,[20][21] and the neoreactionary movement.[6][22] The concept has further been associated with several groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates, and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[12][21][22][23][24]

plenty more at WIKI.


Neither WIKI nor the AP are posters here. I wonder what MIseker thought after watching the films (or any other diverse factual sources) offered and formed his/her or it's own opinion.

 

That is sort of the essence of "discussion".


Good point, but a tad strange coming from someone who insists everyone ELSE only post information gleaned from "official" sources HE deems reliable.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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You need to convince those who identify as alt-right, including the guy that coined the name, that it doesn't mean "I want my identity and hate everyone who's identity isn't the same as mine" because that is what they seem to think it means.

 

 


Did you see anything about "and hate" in the suggested flics? If not, where did it come from. 

 

Additional thought, "that is what they seem to think it means" - how do you know that? In reality it is the fans of the fascist brownshirts (antifa) that seem to hold that position about the alt-right. 


Suggest you actually look at the speeches of those who embody the alt-right.

 

Will you ever be able to have an adult discussion without the name-calling?


By adding the term "those who embody" you are introducing a bias - who gets to decide who "embodies"?

 

Now, back to the topic - what did you think of the originator's definition and/or the words of the others who commented on the films?


I think that those who are trying to make 'alt-right' into something honorable are delusional.


I have not seen any such postings on these boards have you??


Yes, I have. Including the person who started this thread.


And just what has "the person who started this thread" said that would make the alt-right something "honorable". My initial thought is that you have made a very offensive comment. But, as I think about it, maybe it just comes from lack of information. So why don't you think a bit, educate yourself on the topic (and my comments) and try again.

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@MIseker wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely defined group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in favor of white nationalism. White supremacist[1] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism, and did so according to the Associated Press to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, and neo-Nazism.[2][3][4] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 US presidential election.[5]
Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic, and white supremacist,[6][7][8] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[9][10][11] nativism and Islamophobia,[12][13][14][15][16] antifeminism and homophobia,[9][17][18][19] right-wing populism,[20][21] and the neoreactionary movement.[6][22] The concept has further been associated with several groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates, and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[12][21][22][23][24]

plenty more at WIKI.


Neither WIKI nor the AP are posters here. I wonder what MIseker thought after watching the films (or any other diverse factual sources) offered and formed his/her or it's own opinion.

 

That is sort of the essence of "discussion".

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@myexper wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

@alferdpacker wrote:

I watched those youtube videos...

 

It's a crying shame...

 

If Reagan hadn't cut mental health funding so severely - the probability is that today - those poor unfortunate souls wouldn't be suffering from those strange, perverted, and twisted delusional beliefs...

 


Any thoughts on the topic?? 


I posted my thoughts on the subject matter of the videos you posted links to.

Those links to youtube videos WERE "on topic"-  weren't they?

 

I have posted my profound concern for the long term emotional stability of the poor delusional unfortunates in the so-called "alt-right" movement...

 

alt-right?   It's obviously nothing but a bogus series of bigoted, prejudiced, racist rationalizations for unconstitutional attempts to violate portions of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment - a series of actions the majority of American Citizens do not believe is at all moral, ethical, or constitutionally lawful...

 


Any thoughts on the topic - the definition of the term??


Define?

 

The fact that the Alt-Right embraced Milo Yiannopoulos - and tried to ignore the fact that he was/is a homosexual pedophile - before the fact was thrown in their faces dozens of times daily clearly defines the quality of character of those in the Alt-Right - a group initially founded by a former Ku Klux Klan leader.

 

Yep - real high quality folks - if pedophile loving racists is your cup of tea...


Got it - it was too much trouble to actually familiarize yourself with the topic.

Nope .... You don't "got it " as his comments clearly expressed great knowledge of "the topic" and your intent to deceive.

 

So, instead - the usual nasty verbosity.

Wrong again. He identified your attempt to deceive.

"So, instead" - you resort to "the usual nasty" disparaging and coy responses!


 


Did you have something to say on the topic?

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One of our forum members spent 7 or 8 days in a row trying to convince everyone that the story he made up about Charlottesville being a free speech issue was true. Are you kidding? The rest of us know when someone is protecting KKK members and Nazis. Thank You.

Actually, not true. One of out forum members spent quite a bit of time trying to get fellow members to think beyond their blind hatred. He was constantly called a Nazi for defending the Constitution, the Courts, the Police and the rule of law from those who would let their hatred  blind them to the danger of allowing masked street gangs take over the functions of the Constitution, etc.

 

That same forum member is doing it again, He's using milder, more socially acceptable words to pretend that members of the Alt. Right aren't Nazis or KKK members. We know that story is 100% bogus because they are Nazis or KKK members. 

 That same member has introduced a subject that has been misinterpreted  - by some out of bias and by others out of the inability to think deeper than "Der Trumper" and "Trump sucks". 

 

"We" may think "we" know because "we" will not take the time and open mindedness to actually look into the issue.

One person will continue to make up stories to protect the people with whom he apparently identifies, while the rest of us will stand up to Nazis and KKK members with Americans values of decency and tolerance. 

"One person" sees no value to the Kluxers nor the Nazis. But that same "one person" has studied enough history to understand what happens when the administration of the law is turned over to street mobs.

 

And that "one person" would point our how far left  some of our posters have gone when even Morning Joe and Nancy Pelosi are starting to see the dangers of the masked anarchists.

 

Thank You

You are certainly welcome and this "one person" hopes that "we" have found this instructive.


 

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rk9152:  Unfortunately, it takes more than snide remarks and insults to acquire the needed information. And some of our fellow posters simply do not want their minds clouded by information. 

 

 

That's very true......some work hard to throw shade over what is crystal clear. Richard Spencer is a white Supremacist who coined the term "alt-right" in an attempt to soften the image and try to make his ilk more acceptable . That's very clear.

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