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The Problem With Ocasio-Cortez’s Shameful Ignorance Of History

 

Most Nazi analogies are profoundly stupid, intellectually lazy, and diminish the suffering of millions.

 

In April 1944, two Slovakian Jews named Alfred Weczler and Rudolf Vrba escaped from Auschwitz, and provided one of the first eyewitness accounts of the horrors of the European concentration camps. Both men had been rounded up with a group of their countrymen and sent to the Birkenau section of the camp in the spring of 1941, where they were immediately put to work as slave labor.

 

This was before the German regime had properly streamlined and industrialized efforts to destroy European Jewry. In the early days of the camp, any man incapable of labor was immediately executed. Those who survived were sent to do the grueling work of construction.

 

The men began their work at sunrise, and except for a half-hour break at noon, when the prisoners were fed cabbage and turnip soup, they worked until 6 p.m. For dinner, the men were given an ounce of moldy bread made from “ersatz flour and sawdust.” Lice and fleas tortured their emaciated bodies as they slept on wooden boards. “Rats were so bold they gnawed at the toes and fingers of sleepers and stole the crumbs they had left in their pockets,” wrote Robert Conot in his book “Justice at Nuremberg.”

 

A third of the prisoners died every week. If a worker was hurt, he was allotted three days of recovery time. If they failed to heal, the infirmary—where Dr. Mengele had already begun his nefarious work on women and children—would inject a fatal dose of phenol directly into their hearts.

 

Of the 2,722 Slovakian Jews who had been rounded up with Weczler and Vrba, only 159 survived to the summer of 1942. Those who died had been dumped, with another approximately 105,000 bodies, into shallow trenches around Birkenau. “As they decomposed” Conot noted, “the earth rose like a yeasty mixture of dough and bubbled up nauseating gases, which spread for miles.”

 

I think of that last sentence whenever some modern-day know-nothing begins comparing the United States to a proto-Nazi state. Maybe it’s because their analogies are embarrassingly ignorant and intellectually lazy, or maybe it’s because people like Ocasio-Cortez, perhaps unknowingly, diminish the suffering of millions of dead. Or maybe it’s because my own grandfather was taken as slave labor in Austria.

 

Then again, maybe it’s because the comparison itself is a despicable smear of the American people. It’s true that we’re not prepared for the crush of refugees on the southern border (although it should be noted that many Democrats contend any border is immoral). While there is a border, however, we ask migrants who show up to follow existing laws; ones that are subject to the democratic process and the court system.

 

Sometimes we reacted ham-fistedly, even temporarily breaking up families who are transporting children without any oversight. Some migrants have been abused and some have died in our care. There is no excuse for it. Neither is sanctioned by the state.

 

If you believe any of this morally equivalent to carting away millions of people to crematoriums for execution because their faith, your moral compass is irreparably broken.

 

It should also be noted that the United States has more immigrants than any other country in the world. There are 40 million people living in the United States who were born in another country—accounting for about one-fifth of the world’s migrants in 2017. We could build a giant steel fence around the entire country, and the United States would still reign as the most welcoming place for foreigners that has ever existed.

 

This doesn’t mean that people of good faith can never be critical of U.S. policy or contrast any policy with Nazi Germany. “Concentration camps” have a long history that predates the Holocaust, after all. But the contemporary usage is clear, notwithstanding Ocasio-Cortez’s unconvincing attempts to walk back her initial statements.  She, in fact, stresses, “I don’t use those words lightly. I don’t use those words to just throw bombs.”

 

This dumb Nazi equivalence certainly isn’t new. We see a spike whenever a Republican is elected—be it Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, or George Bush. Of course, with Donald Trump, they are in full bloom. We see it all across social media. We see it not only from random accounts but from celebrities, well-known pundits, and major newspapers peddling fourth-grade-level historical analysis. What they’re doing is cheapening their own arguments, on top of all else.

 

Ocasio-Cortez, whose historical obliviousness leads her to believe we’re living in an economic and racial dystopia, says she is speaking to those who “are concerned enough with humanity to say that ‘Never Again’ means something and…that concentration camps are now an institutionalized practice in the Home of the Free.” It’s indeed strange to hear a leftist who champions anti-Israel causes and anti-Semitic politicians using this phrase, since the Jewish state is the most successful and enduring manifestation of Never Again.

 

The appearance of “Never Again” also undermines her later contention that she wasn’t talking about the Nazi camps.

 

We’re forced to take someone seriously who believes vegetables are a tool of colonial oppression because Ocasio-Cortez is both a charismatic elected official with many impressionable fans, and a person bestowed with a huge media platform. Only last weekend, she appeared on “Meet the Press” praising socialism—the other scourge of the 20th century. Yet when we need our media to ask her to explain her profoundly childish and destructive statements, they are nowhere to be found.

 

BY:  David Harsanyi

 

 

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@jimc91-  was that history lesson accurate and truthful?

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

How embarrassing...  She needs a history lesson, IMO.  She's a moron...


On the Contrary - You Need The History Lesson

 

The US Government has run Concentration Camps in the USA B4

 

From Gordyfl

 

 

 

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Source - https://youtu.be/pBxqOy937j0

 

 

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Controversial Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defended her vicious comments made on social media Monday night; blaming “shrieking Republicans” for the political fallout after she compared immigration detention centers with Nazi Concentration Camp.

 

“And for the shrieking Republicans who don’t know the difference: concentration camps are not the same as death camps. Concentration camps are considered by experts as ‘the mass detention of civilians without trial.’ And that’s exactly what this administration is doing,” posted AOC on Twitter.

 

And for the shrieking Republicans who don’t know the difference: concentration camps are not the same as death camps.

Concentration camps are considered by experts as “the mass detention of civilians without trial.”

And that’s exactly what this administration is doing.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) June 18, 2019

 

“The United States is running concentration camps on our southern border. That’s exactly what they are. They are concentration camps. If that doesn’t bother you… I like, whatever, I want to talk to the people that are concerned with humanity that ‘Never Again’ means something,” said the left-wing lawmaker.

 

“The fact that concentration camps are now an institutionalized practice in the home of the free is extraordinarily disturbing,” she added.

 

Ocasio-Cortez falsely claims Trump is operating concentration camps, compares the situation to the Holocaust: “The U.S. is running concentration camps on our southern border and that is exactly what they are. … ‘Never Again’ means something … we need to do something about it” pic.twitter.com/F2MmZ8y2dT

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) June 18, 2019

 

The self-described Democratic Socialist made national headlines last week when she called for a $4,500 raise for Members of Congress and a “cost-of-living adjustment” for all Americans.

“It may be politically convenient and make you look good in the short term… but we should be fighting for pay increases for every American worker. We should be fighting for $15 an hour minimum wage pegged to inflation,” said Ocasio-Cortez.

 

“Everybody in the United States, with a salary, with a wage gets a cost of living increase. Members of Congress, retail workers, everybody should get a cost of living increase,” she added.

 

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Her district must be a very interesting group of people...

 

 


I bet it is, but what she said is true. As I posted in another thread I live in a border state, and our local TV Stations have had people covering the border for months now. They have told us they are concentration camps. Go read my full post and you will see why, also look at what I point out happened well over a year ago when Trump had the camps built on military basses to house 100,000 people. Look at what we were told about that by a poster in here when it happened. Yours must be a very interesting group of people to not understand what is really going on at the southern border. Looks like hers does.

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@jimc91 wrote:

How embarrassing...  She needs a history lesson, IMO.  She's a moron...


Yes, The Nazis killed with ovens. Trump kills with incompetence. Same effect but different techniques. Just imaging if Trump could read history books to get ideas?


Too late ....... Based on Trump's Hitler style behavior and political ideology, It appears that someone already read "Mein Kampf" to him.

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@jimc91 wrote:

How embarrassing...  She needs a history lesson, IMO.  She's a moron...


Far more "embarrassing" ...... Trump's own Secretary of State called Trump a "moron' and Trump's own Chief of Staff called Trump an "idiot' .... In actual truth and fact and not any IMO!

 

And then we have the Russians who refer to Trump as their "useful idiot".

(Trump probably thinks that's a compliment.)

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@jimc91 wrote:

How embarrassing...  She needs a history lesson, IMO.  She's a moron...


Yes, The Nazis killed with ovens. Trump kills with incompetence. Same effect but different techniques. Just imaging if Trump could read history books to get ideas?

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@Richva wrote:

Yes. The Trump camps are pretty bad. Tornillo was so infamous they finally had to shut it down. In El Paso, they are still keeping refugees behind fencing under a bridge.  The recently announced they were discontinuing sports and other activities not directly related to school or health.  It is a mess down here.  Please vote so we can actually elect a president this time and one who can read and is not considered  a moron by his Secretary of State. 


...... and considered an "idiot" by his Chief of Staff.


Good point. I forgot about that. 

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Yes. The Trump camps are pretty bad. Tornillo was so infamous they finally had to shut it down. In El Paso, they are still keeping refugees behind fencing under a bridge.  The recently announced they were discontinuing sports and other activities not directly related to school or health.  It is a mess down here.  Please vote so we can actually elect a president this time and one who can read and is not considered  a moron by his Secretary of State. 


...... and considered an "idiot" by his Chief of Staff.

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