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The bottom line is this...

This "very fine person" (NOT) murdered this...

 

 

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VERY FINE PERSON indeed.  Unfortunately, her vibrant life was undeservedly cut short by the despicable actions of one of the ones on the wrong side of Trump's "both sides" equation. 

 

So hopefully, now that he has been duly convicted, he will be assigned the sentence he deserves and that without hope of a Trump pardon (please recognize the sarcasm here).  Afterall in Trump's eyes, he "is" just as much a "very fine person" as the dear departed Miss Heather Heyer was!  However, for me, that's the whole point... he is still here.   But she is not!

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@rk9152 wrote:

To put things into perspective, here is a quote from ABC news:

“You had some very bad people in that group," Trump said, referring to the white nationalist groups rallying against removal of a Confederate statue. "But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”.

 

Please note the editorializing of ABC which is like some here are doing - "referring to the white nationalist groups..." are the words of ABC, not the President. And then the implication is carried forth to the second quote overlooking the fact that there were more present other than the club swingers.


I think the problem is Trump's use of the word "Some".  It does not designate KKK or Nazis or skinheads. Just "some very bad hombres" as he also said.  

 

Bottom line, we know who supports this president so we have to assume he feels his base (KKK, Nazis, and skinheads) fall into his definition of "very fine people"

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@rk9152 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

This is the sort of blatant dishonesty that makes many of our discussions go down hill.


Please clarify your post, @rk9152.

 

Trump said there were very fine people on BOTH SIDES.

 

Since one side was a gang made up of AMERICAN NAZIS chanting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US" and that marching with them were other WHITE SUPREMACY GROUPS, one must conclude that INDIVIDUAL-1 thinks there are very fine NAZIS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

 

This murderer was part of the above named groups.

 

He ran the young lady down, killing her.

 

What BLATANT DISHONESTY could you possibly be talking about?


Surely you KNOW that the President never CALLED the people you ARE talking about "FINE people".

 

There were others there peacefully showing their opinion on the issue. 

 

And THAT is the "BLATANT DISHONESTY" I am POSSIBLY talking ABOUT.


You are kidding, right???

 

There were NO peaceable people there showing their opinion on the issue.

 

That is a creation of THIS ADMINISTRATION to get INDIVIDUAL-1'S comment to make some sense but everyone knows there were only two sides and thus, the alternations.

 

Even INDIVIDUAL-1 knew there were only two sides as his comment was, "Fine people on "BOTH" sides"

 

From what source did you find that there was a third group(peace loving people) demonstrating that day?

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@rk9152 wrote:

To put things into perspective, here is a quote from ABC news:

“You had some very bad people in that group," Trump said, referring to the white nationalist groups rallying against removal of a Confederate statue. "But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”.

 

Please note the editorializing of ABC ....makes no sense.....you provided no link to your claim.....let's assume your comment is legitimate......"white Nationalist" is not in quotes, meaning if true, White Nationalist was added so the reader or viewer knew who the Grand Knight/dictator was referring to.  Are you suggesting ABC was incorrect?


 


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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To put things into perspective, here is a quote from ABC news:

“You had some very bad people in that group," Trump said, referring to the white nationalist groups rallying against removal of a Confederate statue. "But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”.

 

Please note the editorializing of ABC which is like some here are doing - "referring to the white nationalist groups..." are the words of ABC, not the President. And then the implication is carried forth to the second quote overlooking the fact that there were more present other than the club swingers.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

I guess that if trump is convicted and jailed, we will have yet another "very fine person" in jail?


How is that related to the car killer?  Someone "kill" a car?

 

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"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Blood is on the hands again of trump, right-wing extremists and white males.....


Did Obama have blood on his hands because of the Ft. Hood shooting?  Do you have evidence the Ft. Hood shooter was inspired by Obama?  If so, prove it.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

I guess that if trump is convicted and jailed, we will have yet another "very fine person" in jail?


How is that related to the car killer?


The connection is that they are both racists and bigots.


In what way is the President a racist and a bigot?

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A "very fine person" is convicted of first degree murder

 

He'll be a hero with the Nazis in prison, he'll find the brotherhood and attention he craves.

 

At least among the Nazis, he will discover what it is like to be a minority with unpopular views in the prison population.

 

Meanwhile Heather Heyer will just be a memory for those that loved her.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/us/heather-heyer-charlottesville-victim.html

 

 

 

She stood up to the Nazis in non violent protest.

 

Can we do less?

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

That is nonsense and I believe you know it. So, if you want to continue the game - you'll be playing solitaire.


Works for me. I am used to being the only voice in the room pointing out facts, history, economics, and human decency.  On the other side, we usually have Trump supporters who are immensely entertaining but only if you are into Laurel and Hardy kind of comedy. 

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