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@gordyfl wrote:

A new Reuters poll shows that Medicare for All—has hit an all-time high with 70 percent of all Americans now in favor of a such program, including nearly 85 percent of Democrats and a full 52 percent of Republicans.

 
70% of Americans Support Medicare for All


84% of Democrats


52% of Republicans


(but, only 35% of Democrats in the Senate support it)

 

https://www.axios.com/support-for-medicare-for-all-poll-2018-midterms-2e6da34b-0147-4cb8-83ef-e32f39...

 


It's because those who would be responsible for approving it, would be held accountable for funding it.  I would guess if the 70% of Americans who supported it had to pay their full cost themselves, the approval rate would decrease.  Would you agree?

 

It's a no-brainer as far as "concept", but the cost is staggering.  I suspect the approval rae in the Senate for Repubs would be much lower than the Dems,  Would you agree?


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I think when people are polled about Medicare for All they visualize going to the hospital or doctor's office with a Medicare-Type card in their pocket. 

They don't want to pull out a medical card with some rinky-dink healthcare coverage provided by their employer. Or worse yet, no coverage at all.
They don't want to worry about being saddled with debt because of an unexpected illness or injury.
They're thinking "peace of mind".
It's up to Congress to work out the details.

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@gordyfl wrote:

 
70% of Americans Support Medicare for All


84% of Democrats


52% of Republicans


(but, only 35% of Democrats in the Senate support it)

 


. . . and 0% of Republicans in the Senate or House support it.

 

The shift may be due to the fact that people, regardless of party, found out that R's had no health care plan whatsoever. They destroyed Obamacare as best they could through budget maneuvers, but failed to provide an affordable health care plan of their own. Now we have a lingering Obamacare that serves hardly anyone, while medical costs and drug prices continue to rise, and more people become uninsured or under insured.

 

Us older folks are now having to worry about what will happen to our own Medicare due to the climbing deficit and R's who are primed to go after Medicare, what's left of Medicaid, and Social Security to reduce the deficit spending that they created.

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@gordyfl wrote:

A new Reuters poll shows that Medicare for All—has hit an all-time high with 70 percent of all Americans now in favor of a such program, including nearly 85 percent of Democrats and a full 52 percent of Republicans.

 
70% of Americans Support Medicare for All


84% of Democrats


52% of Republicans


(but, only 35% of Democrats in the Senate support it)

 

https://www.axios.com/support-for-medicare-for-all-poll-2018-midterms-2e6da34b-0147-4cb8-83ef-e32f39...

 


If you asked them if they want ( fill in the blank ) without an out of pocket, out of paycheck or added tax payment included in the question - how else would the uninformed respond?

 

At this point, without a clearer definition of ( the want ) and the details surrounding it, we are still all uninformed.

 

I don't believe than even the DNC has included support for it in their efforts to support their candidates.  

 

Any effort to support a "Medicare for All " plan without working on keeping down medical cost before hand is equivalent to opening up a spigot to full blast.  

 

Some states are currently pursuing a "MEDICAID for All " type plan - where some lower income people could buy into the program - that seems to have more basis in reality - it already has price controls in place, stricter guidelines of medical necessity but of course, finding a provider that is not already booked up or a specialist that might be willing to work within the program, is a little iffy now in many states, maybe all.  

 

Still waiting for California to come up with their plan, cost and where the money would come from -

 

The CBO is still shying away from any current cost analysis too - so we are just left with partisan group estimates even without fully defining what would be covered.

 

Doug Elmendorf, a former CBO director, said the budget scorekeeper is required to provide estimates only for bills that have made it out of committee, and that other measures it scores are usually the priority of a chairman or ranking member.

 

Elmendorf, who was CBO director from 2009 to 2015, noted that “it would take months” for CBO to score a bill as complex as single-payer.

 

Even Democrats that supported the old H R 676 have already removed Long Term Care coverage from it's coverage design.  What else might be taken out because of the cost of coverage?

 

So until it is more detailed, so that we can all be informed, these are just pie-in-the-sky, stir-up-the-partisanship, further-divide-us, efforts by the MSM to make some news.

 

BTW, this seems to be the week for heighten inequity promotion by the MSM - based on the articles they seem to be running sometimes with little details or covering only a select part of the problem, and this plays right into this scenario.

Take it out and play with it for awhile without looking at the whole problem rather picking at it by the pieces - the pieces that places the entire blame on anybody else but the direct participants.

 

 

 

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Honestly not sure what "Medicare for all" means.

 

If it's Universal, single payer with all individuals REQUIRED to participate in guarenteed coverage from private insurance and the Gov't paying the provider and collecting from the insurer on behalf of the patients, FANTASTIC!

 

If it's going to allow healthy young people to become parasites on the system and have no controls over amounts charged/accepted for the services (including drugs and medical equipment), it won't work.

 

Only path to the FANTASTIC option is by removing the reason we don't already have it - the elected GOPers. Another GREAT reason to

VOTE OUT THE NRAGOP IN NOVEMBER

 

 

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IMO - With the threat of Medicare-for-All looming, Republicans (and Democrats) will try to keep the alternative alive -- ObamaCare.

 

Republicans pretended for years that they wanted to get rid of ObamaCare - voting time and again to repeal it. But when it came down to the moment of truth, they kept it alive (Thumbs Down McCain). 

Unless the insurance companies truly want it to die, they will see to it that they have enough votes in Congress to keep it alive. 

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For Trump Lovers, the only thing that matters is what Fox and Trump tells them. So even if Medicare for All would radically improve their life, if Fox or Trump tells them it's a bad idea, they will oppose it.

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With a majority opinion that large, it's going to be like stopping the tide from coming in. I think Republicans are going to sorely regret trying to get rid of Obamacare and sabotaging it instead of working with Democrats to make it as good as possible.

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A new Reuters poll shows that Medicare for All—has hit an all-time high with 70 percent of all Americans now in favor of a such program, including nearly 85 percent of Democrats and a full 52 percent of Republicans.

 
70% of Americans Support Medicare for All


84% of Democrats


52% of Republicans


(but, only 35% of Democrats in the Senate support it)

 

https://www.axios.com/support-for-medicare-for-all-poll-2018-midterms-2e6da34b-0147-4cb8-83ef-e32f39...

 

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