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Re: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

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Non citizens or legal immigrants are barred from the Welfare, SSI Food Stamp programs for the first five years on their residency, after that they can apply for those benefits.

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Re: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

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@BigLib wrote:

Shocking! Low-wage immigrants receive welfare for the same reasons low-wage Americans do. Just, just shocking!

 

Big Lib,

 

That "63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare" is in error. Per that article it should say:

 

"0 percent of ‘non-citizens’ are on welfare"

 

Go to the end of the Article. The last thing stated states immigrants legal or otherwise are banned from getting welfare. That means 0 percent get it.

 

 

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Shocking! Low-wage immigrants receive welfare for the same reasons low-wage Americans do. Just, just shocking!

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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Re: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

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Immigrants get too much welfare? Really? Then why does the last thing said state:

 

"While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors".

 

That means immigrants, legal or otherwise, don't get welfare. It also means that after going though this whole article the last thing at the end tells me everything I just read is hate mongering propaganda garbage. Growl....

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rk9152:  Does that mean that there is not a large number of such people or that there are but that's O.K.??

 

 

No. What it means is that you'd be wise to fact check anything they claim before believing it. Amazing that I needed to explain that.

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Re: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Panjandrum wrote:

 

 

 

Who is surprised? From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

 

 

 

While CIS and its position within the Tanton network has been on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) radar for years, what precipitated listing CIS as an anti-immigrant hate group for 2016 was its repeated circulation of white nationalist and antisemitic writers in its weekly newsletter and the commissioning of a policy analyst who had previously been pushed out of the conservative Heritage Foundation for his embrace of racist pseudoscience. These developments, its historical associations, and its record of publishing reports that hype the criminality of immigrants, are why CIS is labeled an anti-immigrant hate group.

 

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies


Does that mean that there is not a large number of such people or that there are but that's O.K.??


It means that once again jimc and the hatemongers have tried to spread total BS to enrage the lofos against people of color, since lofos in perticular and Republicans in general can be counted on to assume everyone they encounter who is not white MUST be an immigrant.

 

Here's the reality:

The major federal public benefits programs have always left some non–U.S. citizens out of eligibility for assistance from the programs. Since their inception, programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as the Food Stamp Program), nonemergency Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and its precursor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), have been inaccessible to undocumented immigrants and people in the United States on temporary visas.

However, the 1996 federal welfare and immigration laws introduced an unprecedented new era of restrictionism. Prior to these laws’ enactment, lawful permanent residents of the U.S. generally were eligible for assistance in a manner similar to U.S. citizens. After these laws’ enactment, most lawfully residing immigrants were barred from receiving assistance under the major federal benefits programs for five years or longer. Even where eligibility for immigrants was preserved by the 1996 laws or restored by subsequent legislation, many immigrant families hesitate to enroll in critical health-care, job-training, nutrition, and cash-assistance programs due to fear and confusion caused by the laws’ chilling effects. As a result, the participation of immigrants in public benefits programs decreased sharply after passage of the 1996 laws, causing severe hardship for many low-income families who lacked the support available to other low-income families.

 

But this attack is more than just the normal Republican racism. When the GOPerLords sent out this latest attack, the real purpose was to vilify THE PROGRAMS, not just people of color. This makes it easier for Yertle McConnell and the GOPers to destroy the social safety net and still get votes from their moronic base. Seems to be working as planned - the wingers on this blog are falling right in line to support this latest barrage of lies and slander, so when the GOPers wreck PPACA, SNAP, TANF, Social Security and Medicare, the base will be cheering another Victory for the Freedom to have LESS no matter how hard you work. And they wonder why they're not doing as well as their parents did - go figure.

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You are correct ON this one. non citizens legal immigrants with green cards are entitled to welfare benefits when the time for their sponsors to be responsible for them expires.

But, again,  blame all the politicians in DC  Republicans and Democrats alike that for decades have refuse to actually create a decent immigration law that will take care of all the problems that we have today.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

 

 

 

Who is surprised? From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

 

 

 

While CIS and its position within the Tanton network has been on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) radar for years, what precipitated listing CIS as an anti-immigrant hate group for 2016 was its repeated circulation of white nationalist and antisemitic writers in its weekly newsletter and the commissioning of a policy analyst who had previously been pushed out of the conservative Heritage Foundation for his embrace of racist pseudoscience. These developments, its historical associations, and its record of publishing reports that hype the criminality of immigrants, are why CIS is labeled an anti-immigrant hate group.

 

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies


Does that mean that there is not a large number of such people or that there are but that's O.K.??

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Who is surprised? From the Southern Poverty Law Center:

 

 

 

While CIS and its position within the Tanton network has been on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) radar for years, what precipitated listing CIS as an anti-immigrant hate group for 2016 was its repeated circulation of white nationalist and antisemitic writers in its weekly newsletter and the commissioning of a policy analyst who had previously been pushed out of the conservative Heritage Foundation for his embrace of racist pseudoscience. These developments, its historical associations, and its record of publishing reports that hype the criminality of immigrants, are why CIS is labeled an anti-immigrant hate group.

 

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies

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63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

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A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

 

In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

 

 

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The Center for Immigration Studiessaid in its report that the numbers give support for Trump’s plan to cut non-citizens off welfare from the “public charge” if they want a green card that allows them to legally work in the United States.

 

“The Trump administration has proposed new ‘public charge’ rules making it harder for prospective immigrants to qualify for lawful permanent residence -- green cards -- if they use or are likely to use U.S. welfare programs,” said CIS.

 

“Concern over immigrant welfare use is justified, as households headed by non-citizens use means-tested welfare at high rates. Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term temporary visitors like guest workers, and permanent residents who have not naturalized. While barriers to welfare use exist for these groups, it has not prevented them from making extensive use of the welfare system, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children,” added the Washington-based immigration think tank.

 

The numbers are huge. The report said that there are 4,684,784 million non-citizen households receiving welfare.

 

And nearly all, 4,370,385, have at least one worker in the house..
 

In their report, Steven A. Camarota, the director of research, and Karen Zeigler, a demographer at the Center, said that in census data, about half of those are in the United States illegally.

Their key findings in the analysis:

 

  • In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.
  • Welfare use drops to 58 percent for non-citizen households and 30 percent for native households if cash payments from the Earned Income Tax Credit are not counted as welfare. EITC recipients pay no federal income tax. Like other welfare, the EITC is a means-tested, anti-poverty program, but unlike other programs one has to work to receive it.

 

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  • Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).
  • Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).
  • While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, these provisions have only a modest impact on non-citizen household use rates because: 1) most legal immigrants have been in the country long enough to qualify; 2) the bar does not apply to all programs, nor does it always apply to non-citizen children; 3) some states provide welfare to new immigrants on their own; and, most importantly, 4) non-citizens (including illegal immigrants) can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children who are awarded U.S. citizenship and full welfare eligibility at birth.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/census-confirms-63-percent-of-non-citizens-on-...

 

ALSO:

 

https://www.cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

 

 

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