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Olderscout wrote-Seems ed slipped thru a wormhole and is living in 1952. We have the SIXTH highest income and our citizens rank EIGHTEENTH in satisfaction with life.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------you are mixing oranges and apples- Libs like to compare us to Nordic countries where the majority of people are white and have strong policies against hiring immigrants who might take advantage of their social programs. Most Nordic countries have  populations of around 10 million people ,whereas we have at least 22 million ILLEGAL immigrants  out of a total population of 325 million,who are draining are social systems. 40 percent of our population are non-white compared to nordic countries who average 8 %  who are non-white.In spite of this we are still  the country where most people want to live.The United States is the country where everything is happening in the last 200 years and other countries try to emulate.


That has GOT to be the most RACIST post to ever get posted on this blog!


If the post is accurate then the Nordic nations you want us to emulate must be quite racist.

 

Or the post is inaccurate in which case pointing that out would be better than simply insulting.

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9152 cries "afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".

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Oh I see rk9152 , only Gov't workers like you , work hard enough to deserve Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Lifetime Pensions with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Thrift Savings Plans.

Every other Hard Working American , who wants the same is a DEMONIZED SOCIALIST !!!


Again - your obsession with personalizing things. Employee benefits have nothing to do with socialism.

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"afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".


Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.


We have it. Since the issue of "Medicare for all" keeps coming up why not "Medicaid for those who need it"? There is no need to go full socialism when all that is really wanted is increased welfare.


Now THERE is an interesting strategy.  Keep most of the world's most expensive and least effective programs for providing health care but ONLY for those who can pay for it themselves. OR reduce profits and further erode a company's ability to compete with competitors in countries with a more efficient health care system.  HEY............sounds like solid conservatism to me.  OR could it be?????  Is that you Vladimir?


I do not believe that placing healthcare in the hands of politicians and bureaucrats is the best way to go.

 

What has Vladimer to do with it??

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@mandm84 wrote:

9152 cries "afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".

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Oh I see rk9152 , only Gov't workers like you , work hard enough to deserve Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Lifetime Pensions with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Thrift Savings Plans.

Every other Hard Working American , who wants the same is a DEMONIZED SOCIALIST !!!


Another case of "Do As I Say - Not As I Do"

 

Sure doesn't tend to cause people to believe in purity of motive...

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@mandm84 wrote:

9152 cries "afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".

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Oh I see rk9152 , only Gov't workers like you , work hard enough to deserve Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Lifetime Pensions with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Thrift Savings Plans.

Every other Hard Working American , who wants the same is a DEMONIZED SOCIALIST !!!


Well said @mandm84. The fact is that Government pension Trust Fund is funded for way past 75 years DESPITE the fact Republicans failed to make the Government's matching contribution for a couple decades.

 

Providing those benefits for ALL Americans should be our goal, not taking what workers now have in the name of greater income for the ones dividing the profits.

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@easyed598 wrote:

Olderscout wrote-Seems ed slipped thru a wormhole and is living in 1952. We have the SIXTH highest income and our citizens rank EIGHTEENTH in satisfaction with life.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------you are mixing oranges and apples- Libs like to compare us to Nordic countries where the majority of people are white and have strong policies against hiring immigrants who might take advantage of their social programs. Most Nordic countries have  populations of around 10 million people ,whereas we have at least 22 million ILLEGAL immigrants  out of a total population of 325 million,who are draining are social systems. 40 percent of our population are non-white compared to nordic countries who average 8 %  who are non-white.In spite of this we are still  the country where most people want to live.The United States is the country where everything is happening in the last 200 years and other countries try to emulate.


That has GOT to be the most RACIST post to ever get posted on this blog!

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We have it. Since the issue of "Medicare for all" keeps coming up why not "Medicaid for those who need it"? There is no need to go full socialism when all that is really wanted is increased welfare

 

How I wish that Democrat step out of this idiocy. Medicare for all is not the answer. What will happen that it may destroy a good program in which elderly people participate and that have been funded by all of us though our work.

Stop listening to extremists. sorry Bernie. but that is not the answer.

We need a National health care system that will have to be tailored to the needs of the USA
First of all we need to deal with the Pharm issue. whih is one of the problems that we have in this country. .There is the need to   do a price control with all of them. in order to be able to start bringing down the costs of our health care issues. and there are many other things that need to be taken into consideration. 
Medicare for all is the easier way out. and not the solution to our health carfe problems.


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Olderscout wrote-Seems ed slipped thru a wormhole and is living in 1952. We have the SIXTH highest income and our citizens rank EIGHTEENTH in satisfaction with life.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------you are mixing oranges and apples- Libs like to compare us to Nordic countries where the majority of people are white and have strong policies against hiring immigrants who might take advantage of their social programs. Most Nordic countries have  populations of around 10 million people ,whereas we have at least 22 million ILLEGAL immigrants  out of a total population of 325 million,who are draining are social systems. 40 percent of our population are non-white compared to nordic countries who average 8 %  who are non-white.In spite of this we are still  the country where most people want to live.The United States is the country where everything is happening in the last 200 years and other countries try to emulate.

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9152 cries "afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".

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Oh I see rk9152 , only Gov't workers like you , work hard enough to deserve Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Lifetime Pensions with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Thrift Savings Plans.

Every other Hard Working American , who wants the same is a DEMONIZED SOCIALIST !!!

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

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"afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".


Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.


We have it. Since the issue of "Medicare for all" keeps coming up why not "Medicaid for those who need it"? There is no need to go full socialism when all that is really wanted is increased welfare.


Now THERE is an interesting strategy.  Keep most of the world's most expensive and least effective programs for providing health care but ONLY for those who can pay for it themselves. OR reduce profits and further erode a company's ability to compete with competitors in countries with a more efficient health care system.  HEY............sounds like solid conservatism to me.  OR could it be?????  Is that you Vladimir?

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