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"afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".


Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.


We have it. Since the issue of "Medicare for all" keeps coming up why not "Medicaid for those who need it"? There is no need to go full socialism when all that is really wanted is increased welfare.

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Richva wrote-Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Apparently Richva doesn`t know we have the highest standard of living in the world. Even our poor live better than 75 % of all the rest of the peole in the world.  BTW-In those 200 years  liberal Democrats were in charge more than half that time and the last to give in to civil rights and the last to give up their pro KKK affiliations' Perhaps if Richva traveled more she would realize how good we got it here.


Seems ed slipped thru a wormhole and is living in 1952. We have the SIXTH highest income and our citizens rank EIGHTEENTH in satisfaction with life.

 

GOPers traded our NATIONAL #1 ranking for having the most billionaires back in 1980 when they elected Reagan and began the redistribution of all gains in income and wealth from the Middle Class to the very top of the 1%. As for "how good we got it here", 17 other Nations feel they've got it better, and why is that? Well, here's what they have and we do not: Universal health care, paid sick leave, guarenteed paid vacations, tuition free education K-12 AND 4-year College degree, child care for working moms, fantastic state of the art infrastructure, SAFE food (their doctors have to come here to observe the effects of food posioning) and SHRINKING gaps between rich and poor.

 

We've got more billionaires and Republicans and NONE of the things mentioned above.

 

Progressives want America to be #1 in quality of life for ALL our Citizens, and need only to remove the Regressive Republicans from public office to make that happen.

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@easyed598 wrote:

Richva wrote-Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Apparently Richva doesn`t know we have the highest standard of living in the world. Even our poor live better than 75 % of all the rest of the peole in the world.  BTW-In those 200 years  liberal Democrats were in charge more than half that time and the last to give in to civil rights and the last to give up their pro KKK affiliations' Perhaps if Richva traveled more she would realize how good we got it here.


Well, the aristocracy here has the highest standard of living in the world. You need to do a bit of research on the rest of the world. We have pretty bad health care in relation to the rest of the world. We have extremely poor child care, elder care, retirement security, and economic mobility.  I have to believe you are looking back to the 60s for that "best in the world" comment. It harks back to the days of strong unions, 90% top tax rates on the rich, and almost unrestricted immigration. 

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Richva wrote-Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Apparently Richva doesn`t know we have the highest standard of living in the world. Even our poor live better than 75 % of all the rest of the peole in the world.  BTW-In those 200 years  liberal Democrats were in charge more than half that time and the last to give in to civil rights and the last to give up their pro KKK affiliations' Perhaps if Richva traveled more she would realize how good we got it here.

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Most probably ,it is their taste for Beer and  Vodka. Whatever the case, you might want to pack you bags and moved to one of the Nordic countries and leave this     terrible place called the United States.

 

Rker wrote-The United what?  How I wish that this was so.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------United States-----No matter where your personal roots are from,this is still the name of our country. Do want to change the name???

 

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Richva wrote-So, millions of morons can wander around wearing bright red hats declaring that the United States is not living up to expectations but you want ME to move out because I am saying the same thing but with facts? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Just offering a suggestion to avoid all those Red Hats and your seemingly love of nordic countries and socialism. My expectations have been more than met by Trump and all his accomplishments.

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@rk9152 wrote:

"afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".


Hey. Let's be fair about this.  We will give you 200+ years to come up with an economic system which provides comparable health, wealth, and happiness as the rest of the developed world at comparable costs....ready..............oh. Times up.  Now let's look at how they did...........oh.........tooo bad.  It seems team Conservative could not make up for lack of achievement with extra rhetoric.

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9152 , why are you so afraid of Socialism ?  You got your Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Government Lifetime Pension with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Government Thrift Savings Plan. Don't all hard working Americans deserve the same Socialist Style Benefits ?

Socialist Style Benefits that used to exist in most Private Companies , until the Republican's demonized and stabbed our Unions square in the back and CEO's outsourced our Jobs overseas. Result was our Middle Class suffered , but our CEO's pay went from 25 times the average worker in 1970 to 400 times more by 2000.

It's the Greed of the Republican Plutocrats that have destroyed our Middle Class. I think our hard working American's would prefer a move towards a more Socialistic Work environment , like the one you have been lucky enough to enjoy.

Or is that just for the privileged hard workers ?


"afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".


Wow!   Posted just like it could irrefutably be proved to be fact - when - out here in the real world - the successes of the Nordic countries demonstrate that it's only a biased political opinion that the majority of American Citizens recognize to be invalidated by the successes of the Nordic countries...

 

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9152 , why are you so afraid of Socialism ?  You got your Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Government Lifetime Pension with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Government Thrift Savings Plan. Don't all hard working Americans deserve the same Socialist Style Benefits ?

Socialist Style Benefits that used to exist in most Private Companies , until the Republican's demonized and stabbed our Unions square in the back and CEO's outsourced our Jobs overseas. Result was our Middle Class suffered , but our CEO's pay went from 25 times the average worker in 1970 to 400 times more by 2000.

It's the Greed of the Republican Plutocrats that have destroyed our Middle Class. I think our hard working American's would prefer a move towards a more Socialistic Work environment , like the one you have been lucky enough to enjoy.

Or is that just for the privileged hard workers ?


"afraid of Socialism"??? No - try "intelligent enough to know it is not a good system for out nation".

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9152 , why are you so afraid of Socialism ?  You got your Mostly Tax Payer Funded Socialist Style Government Lifetime Pension with Cost of Living Increases , Lifetime Medical and Government Thrift Savings Plan. Don't all hard working Americans deserve the same Socialist Style Benefits ?

Socialist Style Benefits that used to exist in most Private Companies , until the Republican's demonized and stabbed our Unions square in the back and CEO's outsourced our Jobs overseas. Result was our Middle Class suffered , but our CEO's pay went from 25 times the average worker in 1970 to 400 times more by 2000.

It's the Greed of the Republican Plutocrats that have destroyed our Middle Class. I think our hard working American's would prefer a move towards a more Socialistic Work environment , like the one you have been lucky enough to enjoy.

Or is that just for the privileged hard workers ?

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