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Actually, it was not used by the Obama administration.....fake news again. Investigating  the connections between Russian spy agencies and there decades long interaction with the Trump organization and then campaign is hardly colluding.   About at much as the prosecuting attorney in a treason trial is colluding with the traitor. Hey, that analogy fits quite well. 


Actually it was used to get the warrant needed to spy on the other campaign.


That would be the judicial system.  They get to decide if the Steele dossier, along with the other evidence presented at the warrant hearing was sufficient indication of wrong doing, in this case treason, to justify issuing a warrant. THEN, the evidence collected every few weeks to make sure the warrant is still justified. That bar was met also.  I think you are pretty much making the case that the Trump campaign was working pretty closely with the Russian spy agencies.  Well, we shall see when Mueller releases his report. Unless Trump can quash it. I wonder why he would do that?

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It’s been two days since NBC’s exclusive reporting  that the Senate Intelligence Committee has found no material evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and as of yet none of the three major broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, and NBC) have given it even a single second of coverage in their evening newscasts.


Maybe if the Senate Intelligence Committee had spent their time actually investigating instead of devoting their time to protect Trump their statement might be worth reporting.


ANOTHER GOPer Lie attempting to exhonerate the Traitor Trump. What the Senate Committee said was they had not found any DIRECT evidence of Trump's treason.

 

What they DID find was a mountain of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, and Mueller will tie it all together into a nice (rhymes with moose)  for the cooked goose.


What  do you know that the various official investigators don't???

 

BTW - did you notice that the only neoMarixist counter argument to the "GOPer Lie" came from you, not official sources.


Yup, when you have nothing to add to the discussion you must bring out 'neoMarxist'.


That makes no sense. I obviously have much wisdom to offer - and do.


You have a very strange idea of what wisdom is


While I am flattered by your obsession - I am really not the topic.

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If you remember, or will acknowledge, the facts of the Steele dossier are that it was an investigation into the extent of Trump's collusion with the Russians. Yes, it documented salacious details such as Trump's hiring prostitutes to urinate on the bed the Obama's used while in Moscow but it also uncovered an alarming number of cooperative efforts between the Russians and Trump. Including the Russian spy organizations. I don't believe the Clinton campaign paying to have an investigator look into the activities of a traitor counts as collusion in any dictionary. 


It was actually an "opposition research" effort by the Clinton campaign which was then used by corrupt elements of the Obama Administration for partisan purposes. So, if anyone was "colluding" with the Russians for political purposes, it was obviously the Dems.


Actually, it was not used by the Obama administration.....fake news again. Investigating  the connections between Russian spy agencies and there decades long interaction with the Trump organization and then campaign is hardly colluding.   About at much as the prosecuting attorney in a treason trial is colluding with the traitor. Hey, that analogy fits quite well. 


Actually it was used to get the warrant needed to spy on the other campaign.


Actually it was not.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

It’s been two days since NBC’s exclusive reporting  that the Senate Intelligence Committee has found no material evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and as of yet none of the three major broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, and NBC) have given it even a single second of coverage in their evening newscasts.


Maybe if the Senate Intelligence Committee had spent their time actually investigating instead of devoting their time to protect Trump their statement might be worth reporting.


ANOTHER GOPer Lie attempting to exhonerate the Traitor Trump. What the Senate Committee said was they had not found any DIRECT evidence of Trump's treason.

 

What they DID find was a mountain of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, and Mueller will tie it all together into a nice (rhymes with moose)  for the cooked goose.


What  do you know that the various official investigators don't???

 

BTW - did you notice that the only neoMarixist counter argument to the "GOPer Lie" came from you, not official sources.


Yup, when you have nothing to add to the discussion you must bring out 'neoMarxist'.


That makes no sense. I obviously have much wisdom to offer - and do.


You have a very strange idea of what wisdom is

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@Richva wrote:

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https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/bill-dagostino/2019/02/14/networks-2202-minutes-russia-scandal-...

 


NEWSBUSTERS is described as a WINGNUT media site that is an extension of a HATE GROUP.

 

Can't you do better, @jimc91 .

 

These are the people that called Obama a SKINNY GHETTO CRACKHEAD.

 

Is that the philosophy you have relating to Barack Obama, @jimc91 .

 

Tell everyone the truth.


Does that mean there really hasn't been (as of the reporting time) 2,202 minutes on Russian scandal, zero for no collusion report?


The discrepancy can be attributed to having enough facts supporting the story of the Trump campaign colluding with Russian spy agencies while the "no collusion report" is a pretty apparent partisan attempt to cover Trump's butt. 


The article is a factual statement.

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@rk9152 wrote:

If you remember, or will acknowledge, the facts of the Steele dossier are that it was an investigation into the extent of Trump's collusion with the Russians. Yes, it documented salacious details such as Trump's hiring prostitutes to urinate on the bed the Obama's used while in Moscow but it also uncovered an alarming number of cooperative efforts between the Russians and Trump. Including the Russian spy organizations. I don't believe the Clinton campaign paying to have an investigator look into the activities of a traitor counts as collusion in any dictionary. 


It was actually an "opposition research" effort by the Clinton campaign which was then used by corrupt elements of the Obama Administration for partisan purposes. So, if anyone was "colluding" with the Russians for political purposes, it was obviously the Dems.


Actually, it was not used by the Obama administration.....fake news again. Investigating  the connections between Russian spy agencies and there decades long interaction with the Trump organization and then campaign is hardly colluding.   About at much as the prosecuting attorney in a treason trial is colluding with the traitor. Hey, that analogy fits quite well. 


Actually it was used to get the warrant needed to spy on the other campaign.

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Newsbuster's now there's another of jimc's biased sources. It never ends. BTW the real nothing burger Benghazi Investigation lasted longer and never arrested a soul. The hypocritical wilfully blind will never see the Truth !!


But, was the information offered inaccurate?


Did you even read the article?


Yes.


So did I. In fact, I read both of them.

 

The Newsbusters article was primarily a complaint of NBC, CBS, and ABC not reporting about the incomplete Senate Intelligence Committee investigation on their evening broadcasts. I can't say for certain whether the complaint is accurate or not, but I CAN say that it's not newsworthy.

And yet, here you are commenting on the topic.

 

It's also not the whole story. Here are some newsworty excerpts from NBC's exclusive reporting that the Newsbusters article failed to mention:

 

"there's never been a campaign in American history ... that people affiliated with the campaign had as many ties with Russia as the Trump campaign did."

Probably true. We normally have campaigns run by pols, not businessmen.

 

"They say they have uncovered facts yet to be made public, and that they hope to make Americans more fully aware of the extent to which the Russians manipulated the U.S. presidential election with the help of some Trump officials, witting or unwitting."

I believe that is true. it was part of their continuing and ongoing effort to weaken us through division. They have had much success if you consider the posts here as indicative. I believe they knew that if Hillary had won, the Reps would have accepted the outcome and that they accurately predicted the "Resistance" and their ability to create the "Cult of Hatred".

 

"Now in power, House Democrats recently announced an expanded probe that will go beyond the 2016 election to examine whether any foreign government has undue financial influence on Trump or his family. And New York federal prosecutors are pursuing their own criminal inquiry related to hush-money payments to women. The investigations into Donald Trump, therefore, are far from over."

As I said, the Russians predicted well.

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

 

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/bill-dagostino/2019/02/14/networks-2202-minutes-russia-scandal-...

 


NEWSBUSTERS is described as a WINGNUT media site that is an extension of a HATE GROUP.

 

Can't you do better, @jimc91 .

 

These are the people that called Obama a SKINNY GHETTO CRACKHEAD.

 

Is that the philosophy you have relating to Barack Obama, @jimc91 .

 

Tell everyone the truth.


Does that mean there really hasn't been (as of the reporting time) 2,202 minutes on Russian scandal, zero for no collusion report?


The discrepancy can be attributed to having enough facts supporting the story of the Trump campaign colluding with Russian spy agencies while the "no collusion report" is a pretty apparent partisan attempt to cover Trump's butt. 

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@nctarheel wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

 

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/bill-dagostino/2019/02/14/networks-2202-minutes-russia-scandal-...

 


NEWSBUSTERS is described as a WINGNUT media site that is an extension of a HATE GROUP.

 

Can't you do better, @jimc91 .

 

These are the people that called Obama a SKINNY GHETTO CRACKHEAD.

 

Is that the philosophy you have relating to Barack Obama, @jimc91 .

 

Tell everyone the truth.


Does that mean there really hasn't been (as of the reporting time) 2,202 minutes on Russian scandal, zero for no collusion report?

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@rk9152 wrote:

If you remember, or will acknowledge, the facts of the Steele dossier are that it was an investigation into the extent of Trump's collusion with the Russians. Yes, it documented salacious details such as Trump's hiring prostitutes to urinate on the bed the Obama's used while in Moscow but it also uncovered an alarming number of cooperative efforts between the Russians and Trump. Including the Russian spy organizations. I don't believe the Clinton campaign paying to have an investigator look into the activities of a traitor counts as collusion in any dictionary. 


It was actually an "opposition research" effort by the Clinton campaign which was then used by corrupt elements of the Obama Administration for partisan purposes. So, if anyone was "colluding" with the Russians for political purposes, it was obviously the Dems.


Actually, it was not used by the Obama administration.....fake news again. Investigating  the connections between Russian spy agencies and there decades long interaction with the Trump organization and then campaign is hardly colluding.   About at much as the prosecuting attorney in a treason trial is colluding with the traitor. Hey, that analogy fits quite well. 

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