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Still waiting for GOPers to explain why, if Putin is NOT controlling lil donny, lil donny continues to trash realtions with our strongest allies and vilify our intelligence services in favor of praising Putin and all Russia's military conquests.

 

Just heard on the news donny's great work on Syria has AT A MINIMUM DOUBLED the American casualties we've suffered since our involvement there began back in 2015. Cadet Bonespurs military and diplomatic abilities are on display for all to see, and it looks like bleep

 

 Then I guess you approve of the President's efforts to bring the troops home.

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Why Have None in the Trump Cult on this Forum Commented on this Thread?

 


Because it's just more meaningless whining about nonsense from the peLOSER pinhead playbook.

 

First, there there is nothing wrong with ANYONE talking to a Russian.  If there was Obama would have gone to prison when he was caught on a hot mic promising to do better for Russia after he was reelected.

 

Second, the issue being investigated, brought about by peLOSER pinheads with no evidence other than what they created, is whether or not Trump colluded with the Russians.  If you have any evidence that he did feel free to post it instead of lying and you'll be the darling of all the peLOSER pinheads.  In fact, they'll probably run you for president since they've been whining about it for two years without being able to provide any actual evidence.


It never fails. The first defense (distraction) for a trump supporter is bringing up Pelosi,  Obama (and sometimes Hillary and others), and making up cute names for them. Can a trump supporter debunk the long list of things that Mickstuder posted?


36 Indictments.
7 Guilty Pleas.
100+ Contacts.

 

From a Witch Hunt - Hoax - No Collusion - I Never Had Any Contacts with Russians & No One On My Campaign did either

 

Watch Trump Deny Russian Contacts Here

27 July 2016

In an interview held at his golf course in Doral, Florida, Donald Trump tells a local CBS news channel there are no ties between his campaign and Russian officials.

 

Source - https://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/07/27/cbs4-news-exclusive-trump-denies-ties-to-russia/

 

 

 

 36 Indictments.
7 Guilty Pleas.

 

How  many related to Russia?

 


 

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@mickstuder wrote:

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Trump Campaign Had More Than 100 Contacts With Russia-Linked Operatives

(That We Know Of So Far)

 

These contacts included at least 28 meetings, both in person and over Skype, and involved several prominent members of Trump’s inner circle.

 

  • There were 101 known contacts between Trump’s team and Russia-linked operatives during the campaign and transition.
  • Those contacts included at least 28 meetings.
  • 16 members of the Trump team participated in these contacts, and 12 more are confirmed to have known about them.
  • Those 28 people include all three campaign leaders, Donald Trump Jr., and Ivanka Trump.

 

Members of President Donald Trump’s campaign and transition team had more than 100 contacts with Russia-linked operatives between September 2015 and January 2017, according to an updated report by the Center for American Progress’ Moscow Project. 

 

“This wasn’t just one email or call, or one this or that,” Talia Dessel, a research analyst for CAP, told USA Today of the organization’s findings. “Over 100 contacts is really significant because you don’t just have 100 contacts with a foreign power if there’s nothing going on there.”

 

“There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign,” Hope Hicks, then a top Trump aide, said in November 2016

 

“Of course not,” Vice President Mike Pence said two months later when asked if “any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign [had] any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election.”

 

 

 

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Sources

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-russia-contacts-cap-report_us_5c36e939e4b0c469d7...

 

https://themoscowproject.org/dispatch/interactive-100-contacts-between-the-trump-campaign-and-russia...

 

 

Somehow I would not look to the CAP for an unbiased collection of facts.

 

That is on a level with accepting the WaPo as an arbiter of the President's truthfulness. After all, they did a "fact check" on his mention of a stack of hamburgers a mile high - and labeled him a liar.

 

However, the post is a pretty, colorful sight for an early morning.


 

Well B4 I answer this nonsense - I researched one of your Mentors - Sean Hannity

 

Here are his Credentials - St. Pius X Preparatory Seminary high school in Uniondale, New York.[8] He attended New York University, UC Santa Barbara, and Adelphi University, but did not graduate.

 

Not Sure What the - "CAP" - is...........................unless it's your personal acronym for the Center for American Progress Action Fund 

 

But I do Know the information produced for the Moscow Project is based almost entirely upon Court Filings by the Mueller Team

 

The CAP Staff includes

 

Max Bergmann

From 2011 to 2017, he served in the U.S. Department of State in a number of different positions, including as a member of the secretary of state’s policy planning staff, where he focused on political-military affairs and nonproliferation; special assistant to the undersecretary for arms control and international security; speechwriter to then-Secretary of State John Kerry; and senior adviser to the assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs. Prior to serving in the State Department

 

Diana Pilipenko

She managed corporate investigations and analysis at Deloitte, a Big Four accounting firm. Specializing in anti-corruption, anti-money laundering, sanctions, and export controls compliance, she led numerous investigations and assessments on behalf of commercial, federal, and nonprofit organizations. Pilipenko received a master’s degree in regional studies—Russia, Eastern Europe, and Central Asia (REECA)—from Harvard University and a bachelor’s degree in international studies with a minor in Slavic literature from the University of Chicago. In keeping with the Slavic theme, her first job out of college was that of a researcher and translator of Soviet propaganda posters for the “Windows on the War” exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago.

 

James Lamond

James previously served as Director of Research and Policy at the National Security Network where he led a team of analysts examining a wide range of national security issues. Most recently, James worked at the Glover Park Group where advised Fortune 500 companies, major foundations, U.S. government and international agencies. He holds a master’s degree in global affairs from Rutgers University and bachelors in history from Rowan University.

 

Morgan Finkelstein

She previously ran rapid response communications for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign in Pennsylvania and was a spokeswoman for the 2016 Democratic National Convention. Prior to that, Finkelstein was press secretary for the Democratic Party of Virginia during the 2014 and 2015 election cycles and legislative sessions. Finkelstein also spent nearly two years on the road with former President Barack Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden as a member of the White House’s advance team, coordinating press logistics and production elements all over the world. Finkelstein has a bachelor’s degree in communication and public service and American history from the University of Pennsylvania

 

Talia Dessel

Talia Dessel is a research analyst with the Moscow Project. Prior to joining American Progress, she worked for a corporate investigations firm where she concentrated on Russia and Eastern Europe. She previously interned at Human Rights Watch in the Europe and Central Asia Division. Dessel holds a bachelor’s degree in Russian studies and international studies from the University of Chicago, and has conducted extensive research into the current state of propaganda in Russian media. She studied abroad in St. Petersburg, Russia from 2014-2015.

 

Jeremy Venook

Jeremy Venook is a research analyst for the Center for American Progress’s Moscow Project. He has previously worked as an editorial fellow at The Atlantic, where he wrote extensively about President Donald Trump’s conflicts of interest, and a City Year AmeriCorps Member in Boston. Originally from San Francisco, Venook received a bachelor’s degree in social studies from Harvard in 2015 with a secondary in film studies.

 

Siena Cicarelli

Prior to joining American Progress, she worked for the National Democratic Institute on their Central and Eastern Europe team, where she focused on strengthening political parties in the Western Balkans. She previously interned at the U.S. Department of State in the Bureau of European Affairs. Cicarelli holds a bachelor’s degree in international studies from American University.

 

Source - https://themoscowproject.org/about/

 

 


The big question for me is: If all those senior advisors to the ToadPOTUS were doing nothing wrong in those contacts with Russians, WHY DID THEY LIE AND SAY IT NEVER HAPPENED?

 

If you ask your kid "did you go to the park?" and he says "no" and then you find out he WAS at the park, would you not be very curious what he DID at the park?

Would he lie if he was just playing with friends? No, there's no reason to

Would he lie if he was robbing old people?

See why this little wrinkle in hundreds of LIES by lil donny's senior staff cannot be dismissed without FINDING OUT WHY THEY LIED?

 

Point being, people do not LIE to cover up totally innocent activities.

 

Then we learn lil donny's entire "empire" is supported by hundreds of millions of dollars in loans FROM RUSSIAN MOB, OLIGARCHS AND GOVERNMENT, and the Russian Government/Oligarchs have been buying up all lil donny's loans he's not making payment on.

 

So PUTIN holds virtually all donny's considerable debt, which donny CANNOT repay. If PUTIN calls in those debts, donny is facing TOTAL FINANCIAL ANNIALIATION - not something he can walk away from and stiff his partners for like he has over his entire career.

 

Would it be fair to conclude Putin has the ToadPOTUS by the very short hairs and is pulling those hairs to get donny to dance the Putin Shuffle whenever the need arises?

 

YES!


It is Mueller's job to figure that out.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

Why Have None in the Trump Cult on this Forum Commented on this Thread?

 

To the Trump Cult - are these examples of Hatred of Trump or simply FACTS you refuse to acknowledge?

 

HOW CAN A REASONABLE PERSON REVIEW THESE FACTS AND NOT ADMIT THAT TRUMPCO WAS CONSPIRING WITH THE RUSSIANS?

 

HOW CAN YOU HAVE OVER 100 VERIFED CONTACTS WITH THE #1 MOST DANGEROUS ENEMY OF THE USA  FROM ONE US POLITICAL CAMPAIGN AND CONCLUDE - OH THAT WAS JUST BUSINESS AS USUAL?

 


Well Mickstuder, you did use the term "reasonable person".  Nothing "reasonable" about trump supporters. Hatred is blinding and many trump supporters voted for him for that very reason.


I voted for President Trump and I still support his efforts to improve our economy and the basic day to day conditions for average Americans.

 

So, who do I hate?

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@mickstuder wrote:

Trump Campaign Had More Than 100 Contacts With Russia-Linked Operatives

(That We Know Of So Far)

 

These contacts included at least 28 meetings, both in person and over Skype, and involved several prominent members of Trump’s inner circle.

 

  • There were 101 known contacts between Trump’s team and Russia-linked operatives during the campaign and transition.
  • Those contacts included at least 28 meetings.
  • 16 members of the Trump team participated in these contacts, and 12 more are confirmed to have known about them.
  • Those 28 people include all three campaign leaders, Donald Trump Jr., and Ivanka Trump.

 

Members of President Donald Trump’s campaign and transition team had more than 100 contacts with Russia-linked operatives between September 2015 and January 2017, according to an updated report by the Center for American Progress’ Moscow Project. 

 

“This wasn’t just one email or call, or one this or that,” Talia Dessel, a research analyst for CAP, told USA Today of the organization’s findings. “Over 100 contacts is really significant because you don’t just have 100 contacts with a foreign power if there’s nothing going on there.”

 

“There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign,” Hope Hicks, then a top Trump aide, said in November 2016

 

“Of course not,” Vice President Mike Pence said two months later when asked if “any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign [had] any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election.”

 

 

 

101 russian contacts.png

 


 

 

 

Sources

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-russia-contacts-cap-report_us_5c36e939e4b0c469d7...

 

https://themoscowproject.org/dispatch/interactive-100-contacts-between-the-trump-campaign-and-russia...

 

 

Somehow I would not look to the CAP for an unbiased collection of facts.

 

That is on a level with accepting the WaPo as an arbiter of the President's truthfulness. After all, they did a "fact check" on his mention of a stack of hamburgers a mile high - and labeled him a liar.

 

However, the post is a pretty, colorful sight for an early morning.


 

Well B4 I answer this nonsense - I researched one of your Mentors - Sean Hannity

 

Here are his Credentials - St. Pius X Preparatory Seminary high school in Uniondale, New York.[8] He attended New York University, UC Santa Barbara, and Adelphi University, but did not graduate.

 

Not Sure What the - "CAP" - is...........................unless it's your personal acronym for the Center for American Progress Action Fund 

 

But I do Know the information produced for the Moscow Project is based almost entirely upon Court Filings by the Mueller Team

 

The CAP Staff includes

 

Max Bergmann

From 2011 to 2017, he served in the U.S. Department of State in a number of different positions, including as a member of the secretary of state’s policy planning staff, where he focused on political-military affairs and nonproliferation; special assistant to the undersecretary for arms control and international security; speechwriter to then-Secretary of State John Kerry; and senior adviser to the assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs. Prior to serving in the State Department

 

Diana Pilipenko

She managed corporate investigations and analysis at Deloitte, a Big Four accounting firm. Specializing in anti-corruption, anti-money laundering, sanctions, and export controls compliance, she led numerous investigations and assessments on behalf of commercial, federal, and nonprofit organizations. Pilipenko received a master’s degree in regional studies—Russia, Eastern Europe, and Central Asia (REECA)—from Harvard University and a bachelor’s degree in international studies with a minor in Slavic literature from the University of Chicago. In keeping with the Slavic theme, her first job out of college was that of a researcher and translator of Soviet propaganda posters for the “Windows on the War” exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago.

 

James Lamond

James previously served as Director of Research and Policy at the National Security Network where he led a team of analysts examining a wide range of national security issues. Most recently, James worked at the Glover Park Group where advised Fortune 500 companies, major foundations, U.S. government and international agencies. He holds a master’s degree in global affairs from Rutgers University and bachelors in history from Rowan University.

 

Morgan Finkelstein

She previously ran rapid response communications for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign in Pennsylvania and was a spokeswoman for the 2016 Democratic National Convention. Prior to that, Finkelstein was press secretary for the Democratic Party of Virginia during the 2014 and 2015 election cycles and legislative sessions. Finkelstein also spent nearly two years on the road with former President Barack Obama and former Vice President Joe Biden as a member of the White House’s advance team, coordinating press logistics and production elements all over the world. Finkelstein has a bachelor’s degree in communication and public service and American history from the University of Pennsylvania

 

Talia Dessel

Talia Dessel is a research analyst with the Moscow Project. Prior to joining American Progress, she worked for a corporate investigations firm where she concentrated on Russia and Eastern Europe. She previously interned at Human Rights Watch in the Europe and Central Asia Division. Dessel holds a bachelor’s degree in Russian studies and international studies from the University of Chicago, and has conducted extensive research into the current state of propaganda in Russian media. She studied abroad in St. Petersburg, Russia from 2014-2015.

 

Jeremy Venook

Jeremy Venook is a research analyst for the Center for American Progress’s Moscow Project. He has previously worked as an editorial fellow at The Atlantic, where he wrote extensively about President Donald Trump’s conflicts of interest, and a City Year AmeriCorps Member in Boston. Originally from San Francisco, Venook received a bachelor’s degree in social studies from Harvard in 2015 with a secondary in film studies.

 

Siena Cicarelli

Prior to joining American Progress, she worked for the National Democratic Institute on their Central and Eastern Europe team, where she focused on strengthening political parties in the Western Balkans. She previously interned at the U.S. Department of State in the Bureau of European Affairs. Cicarelli holds a bachelor’s degree in international studies from American University.

 

Source - https://themoscowproject.org/about/

 

 


Sean Hannity is not a mentor of mine. Hence, the rest of the gibberish based on that has no meaning.

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Still waiting for GOPers to explain why, if Putin is NOT controlling lil donny, lil donny continues to trash realtions with our strongest allies and vilify our intelligence services in favor of praising Putin and all Russia's military conquests.

 

Just heard on the news donny's great work on Syria has AT A MINIMUM DOUBLED the American casualties we've suffered since our involvement there began back in 2015. Cadet Bonespurs military and diplomatic abilities are on display for all to see, and it looks like bleep

 

 

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How many members of the Trump Campaign and Administration are convicted felons?

 

How many times did members of the Trump Campaign and Administration LIE about their contacts with Russians?

 

How many times did Trump deny the Russians attacked the 2016 election?

 

How many times did Trump claim he had no business connections to Russians?

 

How many times did Trump claim he had no loans from Russians?

 

Why is Trump hiding his tax returns from the American public?

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None of the indictments, none of the guilty pleas had anything to do with Trump or anyone from the Trump campaign colluding with Russia to impact the election. If that is a fact, you should be able to prove it with a reliable and verifiable source, yet you can't, so you just spew the usual Fox, trump propaganda nonsense.

 

 


You need to up your game if you want me to respond.  For example, I would hope that you understand that you're asking me to disprove a negative which is impossible.  What you're asking is a logical fallacy commonly referred to as an argument from ignorance.  I understand that is called for in the peLOSER pinhead playbook when you can't make a rational argument but if you really don't understand below is reference to some information you need to read.

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

 

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None of the indictments, none of the guilty pleas had anything to do with Trump or anyone from the Trump campaign colluding with Russia to impact the election. If that is a fact, you should be able to prove it with a reliable and verifiable source, yet you can't, so you just spew the usual Fox, trump propaganda nonsense.

 

And there has been no evidence, ZERO, of illegal contacts with Russia. If that is a fact, you should be able to prove it with a reliable and verifiable source, yet you can't, so you just spew the usual Fox, trump propaganda nonsense.

 

Incidentally, there seems to be some confusion about the use of peLOSER.  As I originally said, it is an acronym for Pelosi/Schumer, The confusion is your lack of knowledge as to what an acronym is....not too surprising....

 

ac·ro·nym
[ˈakrəˌnim]
 
NOUN
  1. an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g. ASCII, NASA).
     
     

 


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I don't know if the huge double standard of Trump Cult members is hilarious or pathetic. Their behavior is so absurd that if it weren't so serious, I would be LOL.

 

A large array of people Trump hired for his campaign and/or selected to be in his administration are convicted felons. That includes his national security advisor, who's supposed to protect us from foreign adversaries. 

 

If just one person in the Obama Administration was a convicted felon and worked with Russians, they would have demanded that Obama be tried for treason.


The FACTS are there has been no evidence of ILLEGAL contact between Trump and the Russians, which is what this thread is about.  

 

And, IN TRUTH, there is more evidence that Obama colluded with the Russians than there is that Trump did.  Let's not forget that Obama was caught on a hot mic telling the Russian President he could be of more help to him after he was reelected and didn't have to worry about getting votes.

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