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rk9152:   That is a good point - when you are under attack by corrupted elements of the DoJ and being spied on for partisan purposes by corrupt elements of the Administration, I'd say fighting back is just human.

 

 

Could you clarify that a bit? Which administration are you talking about since the Mueller investigation didn't exist under any administration but Trump? It would also be helpful to produce some proof of corruption in the DOJ, because opinions coming from Fox News are worthless. LOL


The groundwork was laid by the Obama DoJ. Remember the fraudulent use of the Opposition research material from Fusion GPS to spy on the other Party. And remember Comey leaking privileged conversations through a friend to the NYT to ensure an investigation (he said).

 

Could you you claeify(sic) a bit - just what Fox report are you whining about. It seems like it has to e reported by MSNBC for you to accept it. BTW - the above was.


Oh here we go with "Obama" again!   "Opposition research"?  Obsessed?  

 

trump made his own bed, accept it.


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There is nothing morally wrong with obstruction of witch hunt.

 


Meaningless since the FBI does NOT conduct "Witch hunts" and tRump has no morals.


Minor corrections - the FBI isn't supposed to conduct partisan witch hunts and Mueller was not charged with evaluating morals


The defense you offer isn't acceptable in a court of law, where trump will eventually end up.


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@aruzinsky wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

There is nothing morally wrong with obstruction of witch hunt.

 


Meaningless since the FBI does NOT conduct "Witch hunts" and tRump has no morals.


Meaningless, because "has no morals" does not imply immoral but, instead, implies amoral.  And, illogical people don't know what the FBI does "NOT" do.

 


Webster:  immoral - - - violating moral principles

 

You see ......... violating moral principles is being immoral ......... any way you slice it.

 

Trying to appear as an intellectual would perhaps be more successful if one stuck to true definitions.

 

AND ........... the FBI conducts investigations, not "witch hunts".


Wrong as usual.

 

"has no morals" != immoral

 

For example, a potted plant has no morals but it is not immoral.  A potted plant is amoral.

 

But, thanks for showing everyone why liberals shouldn't be put into decision making positions.

 


We are not talking about "plants".  Potted plants ........... anything to distract from the immoral acts of trump and those who lie for him.


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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

There is nothing morally wrong with obstruction of witch hunt.

 


That is a good point - when you are under attack by corrupted elements of the DoJ and being spied on for partisan purposes by corrupt elements of the Administration, I'd say fighting back is just human.


Complete Absurdity

 

Trump was the President when the Mueller Investigation was Commissoned by his own Justice Department - Rod Rosenstein Commissioned the Mueller Investigation - Rod Rosenstein was hired by Trump

 

If Trump Thought it was a Witch Hunt & a Hoax he could have fired Rosenstein and Mueller & Stopped the Investigation Anytime He Wanted

 

He Fired Comey To Try & Stop it - he could have just kept going through the Entire Justice Department

 

Why Didn't He Fire Rpsenstein & Mueller

 

Here Are the FACTS

 

President Donald Trump nominated Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on February 1, 2017.

 

Rosenstein was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 25, 2017.

 

In May 2017, he authored a memo that President Trump cited as the basis for his decision to dismiss FBI Director James Comey.[6]

 

Rosenstein is still there

 

 

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Yes, he is  - your point?

 

Then there is Comey, Strzuk, Ohr, Clapper, etal. so, once again -  when you are under attack by corrupted elements of the DoJ and being spied on for partisan purposes by corrupt elements of the Administration, I'd say fighting back is just human.

 

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Rosenstein


Obstruction of Justice  may be "fighting back" to you .............. but it is illegal.


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@jimc91 wrote:

This is like investigating a bank robbery that never happened!

 

No crime was commited by Trump or his campaign.

 

Deal with it...

 

 


Did not read the Mueller report I see. Mueller said they could NOT declare lil donny innocent, but since he's a sitting ToadPOTUS, they can't indict him either, and he evaded giving in person testimony so HE was never questioned.

 

He's rapidly approaching his Historic TEN-THOUSANDTH LIE WHILE IN OFFICE, he's an adulterous whoremonger who the report found had obstructed justice AT LEAST 10 times, he is destroying all our alliances and fawning over bloodthursty tyrants while cedeing our World Leadership to Putin whose PsyOps Warriors put the Toad in office.

 

Republicans are gutless wonders who long ago abandoned Justice for Power so the Senate will NEVER convict him of anything and we'll have to wait until November 2020 to vote him OUT and Jan 2021 to THROW him out.

 

THEN we will be able to indict, try, convict and JAIL donny and his treasonous family where they'll share accomodations with his most senior staff.

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@williamb39198 wrote:

Rk, so have any of the people that you listed had criminal charges brought against them?

Or is the reality for these folks that trump wanted them fired?

Big difference between reality and what trump wants!


Not yet - so far the only major investigation reported on was the "get Trump fishing expedition.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   Then there is Comey, Strzuk, Ohr, Clapper, etal. so, once again -  when you are under attack by corrupted elements of the DoJ

 

 

You forget that your list of imaginary villians is meaningless outside the conservative bubble.


As an example - did Comey not leak to the NYT to ensure an investigation? Have you not heard of "Plan B"? No bubble there except possibly the Progressive bubble of denial.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:   That is a good point - when you are under attack by corrupted elements of the DoJ and being spied on for partisan purposes by corrupt elements of the Administration, I'd say fighting back is just human.

 

 

Could you clarify that a bit? Which administration are you talking about since the Mueller investigation didn't exist under any administration but Trump? It would also be helpful to produce some proof of corruption in the DOJ, because opinions coming from Fox News are worthless. LOL


The groundwork was laid by the Obama DoJ. Remember the fraudulent use of the Opposition research material from Fusion GPS to spy on the other Party. And remember Comey leaking privileged conversations through a friend to the NYT to ensure an investigation (he said).

 

Could you you claeify a bit - just what Fox report are you whining about. It seems like it has to e reported by MSNBC for you to accept it. BTW - the above was.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

There is nothing morally wrong with obstruction of witch hunt.

 


That is a good point - when you are under attack by corrupted elements of the DoJ and being spied on for partisan purposes by corrupt elements of the Administration, I'd say fighting back is just human.


That is delusional. Just part of Republicans campaign to discredit all the things that will put them in jail.

 

The GOPerBase believes that Democrats are so powerful they control the Government every time the Government exposes criminal behavior of a Republican and subverts investigations so Democrats are never found guilty.

 

They have to believe this because the GOPerLords said so AND it's the only way they can explain how FIVE YEARS of investigating Hillary produce ZERO indictments while 5 months of looking at tRump put five of his top aides in prison.

 

Republicans know the best way to rob a bank is to own it and now they've moved on to avoiding Justice by subverting it.


That is a pretty good analogy. If you own the DoJ you can stymie the investigation of certain people and create fraudulent investigations of other people.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

There is nothing morally wrong with obstruction of witch hunt.

 


Meaningless since the FBI does NOT conduct "Witch hunts" and tRump has no morals.


Minor corrections - the FBI isn't supposed to conduct partisan witch hunts and Mueller was not charged with evaluating morals

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