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Hi lynetteg1107,

Welcome to the AARP forums. 

I am so very sorry for what has happened to you.

Please know that you are not alone. 

There are others of us out there, where we have been responsible and have done our best and have planned our best for life, and then something truly terrible happened to change it for us, for the worst, in an instant. 

Circumstances beyond our control, like a terrible accident. I have known others where things like this have happened to them, too. It is truly horrifying, when something unexpected like this, happens to you or someone you know. No one is immune to these kinds of things happening to them. 

It is truly the worst when we are judged by others for this, too. 


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We all have to do what we have to do depending upon what befalls us during this thing called "life".

Getting old and not being able to do what we once did is NOT a medical condition.  It is a normal consequence of life.  If we know that this might (most likely) someday come upon us, we have a chance to make plans.

Just as you are having to change your life, including your spending targets, people getting older need to do the same thing and they have time to do it.

Those changes could be just small things around the house, a different can opener, added safety supports,  or major construction projects to make living in this environment more suitable for the older person.  We have to make plans about our transportation needs since someday we most likely will not be able to drive.  Are the doors wide enough in the home for a walker or wheelchair?  Wh's gonna do the yard work?

Those daily living needs don't change, our bodies just get older, making those daily living needs harder to do,if not impossible to do, one way or another.

I am sorry that Medicare is paying only a part of your medical care, once your assets have been depleted more, Medicaid is there to help out.  We do still have that social net to help out.  I don't understand, with coverage under Medicare and all the different parts covered, it seems your annual out of pocket would be financally managable.  ????

Perhaps you are saying that you became disabled and had to wait (and pay) for 24 months before Medicare kicked in if you are younger than 65 - that does propose a 24 month problem especially if a supplemental policy is not available in your state if you are less than 65.

Actually that is why there are rules under both Medicare and / or Medicaid as to what they cover - Medical care.
And of course, nursing home or community based care for those that cannot do for themselves any longer and they have no money to cover this care option.

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In response to "Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best?":
Unfortunately, there's something that hasn't been addressed concerning this issue.  There's big profit in selling specialty tubs to seniors now. No doubt there's a lobby somewhere that is preventing this item as being labeled necessary.  And let's not forget all the "water therapy" offered by physical therapy offices.  If doctors prescribed these items, and they were deemed necessary for those who are disabled, the result would be that thousands of dollars would be lost by these medical establishments.  There's a lot of dirt going on in the medical industry, and this is just the tip of a very ugly iceberg. A basic walk in tub could be made for basically the same, or just a little higher, expense as "normal tubs".  But what manufacturer wants to do that when they can rip off the public by making this a "luxury" or "special order" item?  In Response to Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best? :
Posted by muskratdottir

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About seniors or disabled who are struggling having not worked hard enough or smart enough. That's BS. I am an RN who worked over 40 years in ICU. I worked long hard hours weekend and holidays and had put some away for retirement. Last year I had emergency surgery that went horribly wrong. I was hospitalized for over a year and am now bed bound. The medical costs that insurance didn't covet have put me into bankruptcy. I am struggling just to keep a roof over my head and food on the table because Medicare openly pays a part of the cost of my ongoing care. What I had put away is gone. I have $110 left over after the basic bills are paid. Most of thar goes into co-pays for my medication. I hope you never have a serious medical problem
or you will find out just how fast everything you thought you had disappears.
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In response to "Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best?":
Unfortunately, there's something that hasn't been addressed concerning this issue.  There's big profit in selling specialty tubs to seniors now. No doubt there's a lobby somewhere that is preventing this item as being labeled necessary.  And let's not forget all the "water therapy" offered by physical therapy offices.  If doctors prescribed these items, and they were deemed necessary for those who are disabled, the result would be that thousands of dollars would be lost by these medical establishments.  There's a lot of dirt going on in the medical industry, and this is just the tip of a very ugly iceberg. A basic walk in tub could be made for basically the same, or just a little higher, expense as "normal tubs".  But what manufacturer wants to do that when they can rip off the public by making this a "luxury" or "special order" item?  In Response to Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best? :
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As to the reply posted. I'm an RN who worked in ICU for over 40
years. I worked long hard hours. Last year I had an emergency surgery that went horribly wrong and resulted In my being in the hospital over a year and am bed bound. The medical costs that insurance didn't covet bankrupted me. I lost everything I had put away for my retirement. I am now struggling through no fault of my own and its not due to my not working hard enough or smart enough. You can't be stupid and work in Critical Care. I hope you never get hit with a major medical problem because you will find out quickly just how fast everything you thought you had can disappear .
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There are alternatives to your wife's problems which would be tax deductible. Her problem is linked to health only if she falls and sustains injury - but changes to your home more in-tune to her disability could prevent any injury.  Would you want Medicare to pay for lowering counters for those disabled in a wheel chair? What about a ramp to help them get inside or out? Door widening? What about special equipt cars allowing them to drive? My mother needed a walker several years back, I got her one with a seat and wheels that she pushes.  It has become part of her person and she cannot go anywhere without it.  Medicare did not pay for it. Medicare does not pay for hearing aides either and my mother hears nothing without them in both ears - with added volume of a pocket talker - Medicare does not pay for glasses to see either. See if you can find a contractor to look over the shower  - then put a bath chair inside the stall for her to sit upon while bathing. I don't think anybody has ever died from not having a shower or bath inside an enclosure.  Heck, my grandmother never had a bathroom and she made 90 with no falls. I am sorry to be so hard hearted but we need to all start realizing what is health care and what is not !
Posted by GailL1

Exactly the point. Which saves more money for Medicare. A one time payment of $7000 or repeated hospitalizations even one of which costs probably ten or more times that amount
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Unfortunately, there's something that hasn't been addressed concerning this issue.  There's big profit in selling specialty tubs to seniors now. No doubt there's a lobby somewhere that is preventing this item as being labeled necessary.  And let's not forget all the "water therapy" offered by physical therapy offices.  If doctors prescribed these items, and they were deemed necessary for those who are disabled, the result would be that thousands of dollars would be lost by these medical establishments.  There's a lot of dirt going on in the medical industry, and this is just the tip of a very ugly iceberg. A basic walk in tub could be made for basically the same, or just a little higher, expense as "normal tubs".  But what manufacturer wants to do that when they can rip off the public by making this a "luxury" or "special order" item? 


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  Yeah Gail, we all know how you feel. You told us in an earlier post that, If a senior or disabled person is struggling, its their own fault, for not working hard enough and smart enough . Sorry, but  we all dont have a lucrative business like your husband's to live off of and maybe we're not as smart as you and your husband, but that doesn't mean we didn't work just as hard.  Maybe a little compassion for those struggling, who have been hit by hard times, to no fault of their own, would be nice. Anyone's life could change in a heart beat. Response to Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best? :
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My wife and I recently had Safe Step and a couple other companies out for estimates and it was unbeleivable to me that Medicare doesn't cover any portion of the cost of these tubs.  My wife is disabled and has an extremely hard time getting into or out of the shower (which only has a 7" lip) and cannot even attempt getting into our tub.  Out of all of these different companies, we fell in love with what Safe Step had to offer.  No, it wasn't just because of Pat Boone being their spokesperson!    However, just like the reps that were out before Safe Step, we were informed that Medicare wouldn't cover any of the cost.  This doesn't make sense to me, as my wife has fallen and been hospitalized because of our bathroom countless times.  Am I alone in thinking this, or does anyone else feel the same? Here's the tub we were looking at getting, I'd love some feedback from those of you that may have one.   Safe Step Walk in Tub Have any of you ever considered purchasing one of these? If so, what helped you decide which company to go with?  Obviously they're expensive, which is why we were hoping medicare would cover it.  However, now it's looking like we're going to have to pay cash and Safe Step was the least expensive and most attractive option out of the ones we looked at.
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I think you should purchase handicapped showers or handicap bathtubs for safety as these are safe for handicapped person. Check all these from http://www.universaldesignspecialists.com/walk-in-tubs.html. Here you can get different types of these products at affordable prices.
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In response to "Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best?": I'm sorry you've had to pay for some things. YES! I think Medicare should pay for those things! Being able to care for yourself is NOT a luxury! Neither is a shower, a bath, or a ramp to leave the house!!!!
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I helped my mother plan for those things for which she was responsible, so as she changed and got older, I made plans for her care and help.

Just getting older is not an illness nor is it a disability but it does help if you can make accommodation for those things that can help you.

Years ago communities had grants available to low income elderly  through HUD for just this purpose.  Here is the link to the Dept of Housing and Urban Development:  Home Repair/Modification Programs for Elderly Homeowners

Where is it today?  I don't know, but if you are low income (and low enough), I'm sure there is help out there - check with your local Dept of Aging or call your Congresscritter.


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In response to "Re: Why doesn't Medicare pay for Walk In Bathtubs and what tub is the best?":
There are alternatives to your wife's problems which would be tax deductible. Her problem is linked to health only if she falls and sustains injury - but changes to your home more in-tune to her disability could prevent any injury.  Would you want Medicare to pay for lowering counters for those disabled in a wheel chair? What about a ramp to help them get inside or out? Door widening? What about special equipt cars allowing them to drive? My mother needed a walker several years back, I got her one with a seat and wheels that she pushes.  It has become part of her person and she cannot go anywhere without it.  Medicare did not pay for it. Medicare does not pay for hearing aides either and my mother hears nothing without them in both ears - with added volume of a pocket talker - Medicare does not pay for glasses to see either. See if you can find a contractor to look over the shower  - then put a bath chair inside the stall for her to sit upon while bathing. I don't think anybody has ever died from not having a shower or bath inside an enclosure.  Heck, my grandmother never had a bathroom and she made 90 with no falls. I am sorry to be so hard hearted but we need to all start realizing what is health care and what is not !
Posted by GailL1

I'm sorry you've had to pay for some things. YES! I think Medicare should pay for those things! Being able to care for yourself is NOT a luxury! Neither is a shower, a bath, or a ramp to leave the house!!!!
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What can I say? I agree with all of these posts.If you work all your life and pay into this system
looks like you could get some help when you get older.....Heck, I thought that was what it was for! Smile
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