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RonMesnard wrote:

A few points...

 

We are all suggested to keep BGs below 140 to maintain health.  That is a conservative number but excersising when your BG is already at 200 as your artical suggests is fool hearty.  Excessive BGs, above 300, are thought to damage your vascular system.  Why would people purposfully damage their vascular system?  I bet this is the reason they die before their time.  It is when idelogy overcomes common sense. 


@RonMesnard  Yeah, well, there's just no way to write a concise article to cover every health condition. So this is where common sense comes in, eh? If you are at the kind of risk described, one would think your doctor would tell you to start with slow, measured exercise rather than the kind of sweat-dripping, heart-pumping 780 calories burned workout I just got in 46 minutes on the mini-trampoline. I do not have a blood glucose issue nor do I have a heart problem. Common sense: talk with your doctor; find out what exercises are appropritate ... and probably most of all take charge of your health. You are  in the driver's seat: so drive. Smiley Happy

 

Good health starts on the plate, no? Smiley Happy I made a peach tart rather than a pumpkin pie for Christmas dessert because it has far less sugar. And we skipped those fatty, calorie and carb rich foods and treats. Also we were mindful of portion control, and the need to have a feast that was predominantly vegetables. 

 

To improve health we must learn to think carefully about our choices. Or so I think. Smiley Happy

 

And hey, Happy New Year! May you meet and exceed your health goals!

 

 

 

 

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A few points...

 

We are all suggested to keep BGs below 140 to maintain health.  That is a conservative number but excersising when your BG is already at 200 as your artical suggests is fool hearty.  Excessive BGs, above 300, are thought to damage your vascular system.  Why would people purposfully damage their vascular system?  I bet this is the reason they die before their time.  It is when idelogy overcomes common sense. 

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@RonMesnard  Yes, it can. (depends upon the person's health and BG levels) That said, non-athletes do not need to work out to the same level as an athlete to realize benefit.

 

Here'a a good discussion on the subject: https://www.diabeteshealth.com/why-does-my-sugar-go-up-after-exercise/

 

A snippet: "Athletes who workout strenuously on a regular basis may not need to eat as large a feeding as expected before strenuous sessions. Also, as the body adapts to intense training, the hormonal secretion decreases when the same intensity workouts are done. Consequently, an intense workout at the beginning of a season that caused a surge in BG may cause a lesser rise in BG at mid-season."

 

Their summary (for those with BG issues): "In summary, monitor BG before exercise, during exercise if the sessions last beyond an hour, and after exercise one or more times. For non-athletes, high-intensity exercise isn’t needed to improve fitness, health in general, and improve BG control. It even tends to make BG management more difficult and increase the risk of injury, sore muscles, and heart attack, and may discourage you from sticking with your exercise regimen."

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The intense excersise shoots your blood sugar to crazy levels (500-100) in a super intense excersise.  Probably to power your body during a possible life threatening situation.  It is probably all the stresss hormones that makes that possible may produce the wear and tare on your body.

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RonMesnard wrote:
Thanks! I thought diet was the only way to lose weight. I only get way hungrier and eat more if I try to lose weight with exercise. I do think exercise is essential for good health but we need to reduce the intensity as we age. Serious aerobics stresses your body and shortens life. I read a study by your mid 50s people who jog for exercise vs walking don't live as long. I suspect this is probably linked to the individual and not everyone will react the same way.

@RonMesnard  Yes, I've experienced that post-workout hunger as well. I've successfully combated it by drinking lots of water; eating something that's loaded with fiber (fiber makes you feel fuller) and sometimes just denying myself, so as not to let my temporary hunger undo long term gains. And sometimes, (like the day after we cycled 100 miles) I just let myself graze. Of course, I don't have donuts of chips or cookies or things that are dietary no-nos the house, so it's pretty safe for me to go grazing through the fridge. Smiley Happy I'm likely to pull out some cauliflower, hummus and mustard or eat an apple with some peanut butter. Smiley Happy

 

Best wishes!

 

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Just saw this on Twitter. Think it fits right in here. Smiley Happy

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Thanks! I thought diet was the only way to lose weight. I only get way hungrier and eat more if I try to lose weight with exercise. I do think exercise is essential for good health but we need to reduce the intensity as we age. Serious aerobics stresses your body and shortens life. I read a study by your mid 50s people who jog for exercise vs walking don't live as long. I suspect this is probably linked to the individual and not everyone will react the same way.
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nyadrn wrote:

It is pretty difficult to motivate others as I am sure you know.  My dad was a lifelong walker who enjoyed good health and he is always a model for me.  Plus I want to be able to get around and travel and that motivates me to try to keep healthy although there is much more I could do.   I guess everyone has to find their own reasons and I hope many will.  

 

 

@nyadrn  Since all personal improvement is an inside job, there is actually nothing we can do to improve another person.

 

 

That said, I consider it important --vital-- to keep putting out these wee beacons of medical/scientific fact. Not so much for those who are here right this minute, because most of those people have made up their minds, but more so for the seekers to come. The ones looking for answers. Those are the peeps that can be reached and inspired.

 

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Marketing 101: get your message in front of the decision maker at the point of decision. Smiley Happy 

 

 

 

 

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@nyadrn  No worries.

 

I'm a bulldog when it comes to the obesity epidemic. It has already cost my family so many times more than what I was willing to pay. It is likewise costing America many times more than I am willing to pay. Besides minding my own physical fitness, screaming here in the wilderness is about all I can do about it, though. Smiley Sad Which is a crazymaker. Sorry if my crazy spilled over. I do try to keep it contained. Smiley Wink

 


It is pretty difficult to motivate others as I am sure you know.  My dad was a lifelong walker who enjoyed good health and he is always a model for me.  Plus I want to be able to get around and travel and that motivates me to try to keep healthy although there is much more I could do.   I guess everyone has to find their own reasons and I hope many will.  

 

 

 

 

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@nyadrn  No worries.

 

I'm a bulldog when it comes to the obesity epidemic. It has already cost my family so many times more than what I was willing to pay. It is likewise costing America many times more than I am willing to pay. Besides minding my own physical fitness, screaming here in the wilderness is about all I can do about it, though. Smiley Sad Which is a crazymaker. Sorry if my crazy spilled over. I do try to keep it contained. Smiley Wink

 

 

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