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I think that current experience as seen by medical professionals should be used to determine the appropriate levels of BP, opinions shouldn't.   I take my BP fairly regularly and it varies from day to day as well as hour to hour, examples (dyistolic) decreasing by 20% from one day to the next and in a different case where it increased by 26% within another day.  My concern is that if I see the MD at one of those specific times, what is my true BP, does it  warrant medication?  


If you take your BP regularly and record the dates/times and bring that with you to the doc, most doctors will consider your records along with their measurement when prescribing BP meds. If your doctor is NOT willing to consider your measurements, it's time to find a new doc!

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I think that current experience as seen by medical professionals should be used to determine the appropriate levels of BP, opinions shouldn't.   I take my BP fairly regularly and it varies from day to day as well as hour to hour, examples (dyistolic) decreasing by 20% from one day to the next and in a different case where it increased by 26% within another day.  My concern is that if I see the MD at one of those specific times, what is my true BP, does it  warrant medication?  

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" The opinion published in JAMA advises treatment at 140/90 for adults from ages 30 to 59, but starting only at 150/90 for people 60 and older. The American Heart Association maintains its recommendation of initiating treatment — starting with lifestyle changes and then medication if necessary — at 140/90 until age 80, then at 150/90."

 

One issue that is older people often have partially obstructed blood vessels, so they NEED higher pressures to keep their tissue perfused with blood! If you lower BP too much in an older person, they can faint, or event start to pool blood in their ventricle due to inadequate pressure to push it out to the body, which can in and of itself form a clot, and cause a stroke.


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I am personally highly suspect of the timing we see with all the "new guidelines" for health screening coming out in general. We see new guidelines advising less frequent testing for mammograms, PSA-prostate, different BP guidelines, etc..etc...etc.... All of these reduced testings coming at the same time as the USA is trying to revamp its healthcare system.

I have some suspicion cost savings are more at play here than real medical or scientific findings intended to improve the accuracy of spotting illness. This way, when more and more people are gradually shifted to a system managed by the central government, they can show reduced costs in the system ......... with all this reduced monitoring helping to reduce the costs of course.

The same kind of thing is going on in the corproate world
- We now have lots of Pharmaceutical companies buying up all the health food, natural and supplement companies.

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We live in a very scary time of "Big Brother"! I was recently diagnosed with a serious medical problem, and so much time is wasted, because insurance rules require the results of one test/procedure, before they'll approve a more definitive (and more $$) test be done.


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The current blood pressure guidelines were created after the introduction of blood pressure lowering drugs. For me, I decided I wouldn't take blood pressure meds for any reason and here's why. All my early life I had the same blood pressure, around 135/75. Every time I got my BP checked it would be around this level and the doctor would say that "your blood pressure is good". Then one day I went to the doctor to get my allergy meds and quick checkup. My BP was 132/71. This time the doc said. "your blood pressure is high, we need to do something." Interesting I thought, what changed? He said a new study shows that your normal BP should be around 120/70. The doc tells me there is a fairly new drug on the market that will lower my BP 10 points. "Ah" I say, "new drug, typical". Isn't it a coincidence that I have good blood pressure all the way up to the time a new drug is invented to lower it? I'm now 63, do brisk walking of 5 miles every day and have a BP ranging around 135/75 to 140/80 depending on when I take it, and I feel great.

 

These drugs are BIG business, if you don't believe it check out. There are currently 227 drugs available to lower blood pressure. It is estimated that blood pressure medications account for around 25% of the drug producer's $800 Billion net profits since 2003.

 

The new guideline are reasonable and will take millions of people off of blood pressure medication. This is the reason the new guidelines are being fought, lower profits for the doctors and the powerful drug companies. Don't be fooled by drug company propaganda. It's your life, take control!

 

 

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I think alot of doctors these days are nothing more than legal pill pushers, putting people on medications, before trying alternative methods.  I tend to agree with the new guidelines, most medications out there have alist of side effects as long as both my arms and legs, how odd is it

that statins are proven to bring on diabetes type II ?  This way now your on 2 maintenance drugs.

Then the doctor gets to see twice as often...bilking your  insurance.

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I am not willing to risk my life waiting for them to work the bugs out of the new protocol.  The old guidelines work.  I trust my doctor but i research things for myself.  Never leave ur health to anyone totally. Except, Jesus.

   

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I am a 63 year old African-American female and have suffered with high blood pressure since my pregnancy with my son in 1982. Heredity, as well as lifestyle, has played a role in my condition. My father and his mother both had high blood pressure. I think the guidelines should be set according to age, ethnicity, and lifestyle, not just a general formula for everyone. It's time for the medical world to pay attention to these differences!

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I am personally highly suspect of the timing we see with all the "new guidelines" for health screening coming out in general.

We see new guidelines advising less frequent testing for mammograms, PSA-prostate, different BP guidelines, etc..etc...etc....

All of these reduced testings coming at the same time as the USA is trying to revamp its healthcare system.

I have some suspicion cost savings are more at play here than real medical or scientific findings intended to improve the accuracy of spotting illness.

This way, when more and more people are gradually shifted to a system managed by the central government, they can show reduced costs in the system ......... with all this reduced monitoring helping to reduce the costs of course.

The same kind of thing is going on in the corproate world
- We now have lots of Pharmaceutical companies buying up all the health food, natural and supplement companies.
Some say it is to diversify their business portfolios ---- owning both the medical and natural sides of the business.
Others fear it is a way to eliminate competition and force people to depend more on medicines to cure ilnnes instead of preventative healthly lifestyle choices to prevent illness.
I suppose either theory has valid points.

Michael Spitzer - Author - FITNESS AT 40,50,60 AND BEYOND

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I don't think the guidelines should be change its not one size fit all more research needs to be done.
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