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Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

mickstuder wrote:

 

Not only do Millions of Americans Purchase this Software and run it on their Computers - the US Government has thousands of copies of Kapersky Anti-virus running on Government Computers - some in crtitical infrastructure 

 

 

 


 Kapersky Anti-virus has been among the highly recommended anti-virus softwares for years, along with AVG and AVAST.  Now it is suddenly became a political football?   And mostly among those who are not that computer literate.

 

Now we are moving back to the McCarthy era with the 'red scare' and the phrase "The Russians are Coming!!  The Russians are Coming!!"?

 


Naw .... The Russians are already here Tex ..... as evidenced by their interference in the recent presidential election enabling Trump to win!


Are you saying that Kaspersky home computer software effected our elections??

 

If not, what are you taking about??


Obviously, focusing and actually reading all that was posted would render it unnecessary to ask such an erroneous question, unless it was asked for the purpose of aggravating and baiting.


Since you have opted to add your 1 cent, possibly you would like to address the words: Naw .... The Russians are already here Tex ..... as evidenced by their interference in the recent presidential election enabling Trump to win! - with something more than insults.

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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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ChasKy53 wrote:



Actually, I have learned a heck of a lot from my brother who is a Director for one of the largest computer firms in America. My work partner's son got his masters in computer security and I've learned much from him also.

 

I see no sense in using a Russian anti-virus when I can use one made in the USA that is just as good (but then I have always been big on using American made anything that I can). I have had no problems with viruses or any kind of spy ware. My computer has remained secure for years.



Famous last words, but then again it only takes one attack to demobilize a computer.  Are you protected against ransomware? 

 

But of course having a brother who is a director of a computer firm should keep virus ware out won't it.  Doesn't mean that you are knowledgeable.  My son is an IT executive with one of the world's largest oil companies, plus my many years of experience should keep my computer safe?  I also have a brother with executive experience and over 60 years experience in programming.  But that doesn't mean a thing.

 

As far as using a Russian program over an American one? Are you sure it's American, or one that is from another country?  I'm sure that any computer virus would be blocked just because your antivirus is American.

 


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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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rk9152 wrote:

Your concerns are valid about cyber warfare being a reality that must be dealt with. But, where are the mailboxes manufactured? Probably no Russia.

 

We do contract out a lot but - Snowden is an American and had been hired by Booze, Allen, Hamilton - an American firm.

 

So, while I agree that we have to be very, very careful - "Fortress America" is not the solution.

 

On the other hand, when a foreign product is determined to be a danger, it should be pulled from the market and all owners should be alerted.


Huh?

 

Swiss Cheese America is apparently - more to your liking?

 

These are only the Screw-ups of one Outsourced Private Defense Contractor - I could list several more if you're interested............................Outsourcing Sidewalks & Driveways or maybe in even Laundry Service - Food Preperation and Supply Transport & Warehousing is not the same as Outsourcing American Security...............................................and it should be Stopped 

 

1.  On May 24, (2017) Chris Vickery, a cyber risk analyst with the security firm UpGuard, discovered a publicly accessible data cache on Amazon Web Services' S3 storage service that contained highly classified intelligence data. The cache was posted to an account linked to defense and intelligence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton. And the files within were connected to the US National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), the US military's provider of battlefield satellite and drone surveillance imagery.

 

Based on domain-registration data tied to the servers linked to the S3 "bucket," the data was apparently tied to Booz Allen and another contractor, Metronome. Also present in the data cache was a Booz Allen Hamilton engineer's remote login (SSH) keys and login credentials for at least one system in the company's data center.

 

[Update, 5:10 PM] UpGuard's post suggested the data may have been classified at up to the Top Secret level. A Booz-Allen spokesperson told Ars that the data was not connected to classified systems. However, the credentials included in the store could have provided access to more sensitive data, including code repositories.

 

2. October 7, 2016 Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp. is once again at the center of a major U.S. intelligence breach. And for the second time in three years, the company known in Washington for its classified contracts and influential alumni will probably face criticism but suffer few consequences.

 

The disclosure Wednesday that Booz Allen employee Harold Martin, who was contracted to work at the National Security Agency, was arrested for stealing classified data immediately brought up memories of fugitive Edward Snowden. In 2013, Snowden fled his Booz Allen job in Hawaii for Hong Kong and then Russia after stealing and releasing a trove of data on classified U.S. data collection programs.

 

"Booz Allen is in the incredible position as having offered up the two most unfit contractor employees in recent memory," Charles Tiefer, a law professor at the University of Baltimore, said in an interview.

 

It’s become “the too-big-to-fail company of the classified secrets world," Tiefer said, supplementing “a hollowed-out government employee workforce” while profiting from “very lucrative taxpayer-funded classified work."

 

Sources 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-07/another-breach-at-nsa-involves-booz-allen-will-an...

 

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/defense-contractor-stored-intelligence-data-i...

 

 

( " Eat Tic Tacs - Grope Woman - Become President " ) " - Anonymous

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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TxGrandpa2 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

myexper wrote:



What can be readily "observed" is a conspiracy that YOU contrived and then fallaciously imply that others believe it! 


When you're ready to discuss the topic instead of attempted zingers we could continue.


Sure!!!  Wot 'r the odds??


Zero to nothing!!!


The probability that you guys will ever answer a question! 

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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rk9152 wrote:

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

myexper wrote:



What can be readily "observed" is a conspiracy that YOU contrived and then fallaciously imply that others believe it! 


When you're ready to discuss the topic instead of attempted zingers we could continue.


Sure!!!  Wot 'r the odds??


Yup .... The odds that you guys will ever answer a question posed to you instead of continually evading it!

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

mickstuder wrote:
 

There is a BIG BIG difference between Politics and Security.................

 

  


There is also a difference between taking advice from anonymous posters with unknown technical expertise on a public discussion forum, mostly with a political bias,  and politicians or from computer experts on highly regarded technical publications.

 

I'll take the experts anytime.


Anytime Tex?  Yet you denied the results of 17 U.S. "expert"  Intelligence Agencies relative to Russian to believeinterference.


See - you learn something new each day. For example, I was not aware that the 17 U.S. "expert' Intelligence Agencies had pointed out the cabal of PCMagazine, Staples, Walmart, Amazon, etal were all out to destroy our nation.


Well - If that's what you "learned" then it's what you taught yourself as no here, other than yourself of course,  made such a ludicrous statement! 

 

Agreed - "ludicrous" (the word of the day). And who was it that brought the intel community and the elections into the discussion?

 

The word "ludicrous" was used to describe YOUR  assertion that "17 U.S. "expert' Intelligence Agencies had pointed out the cabal of PCMagazine, Staples, Walmart, Amazon, etal were all out to destroy our nation."

 

Those were YOUR words and not mine rk. So stop putting your words into my posts!


 


 

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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

mandm84 wrote:

If you havent noticed , It's all connected !!!


That's right, Tx. Kaspersky software and PCMagazine and Amazon and Staples and Walmart and the President and Putin and maybe the Illuminati are all one big happy family trying to bring the Democrats down.


That's a rather ludicrous arrangement that you contrived and then concurred with rk. 


I agree, it is. It comes from your introduction of the elections - a totally off-topic and "ludicrous" comment.

No .... it came from your contrived post which I replied to, as clearly shown within this thread!

 

By the way, do you have any thoughts on the topic?

Yup .... and I already expressed them. But you continue to evade them and play your game of asking questions for which answers were already given!


 

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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

mandm84 wrote:

Can't we just look the other way and give President Trump and Putin a pass. Heck it's only the Democratic fabric of OUR Nation at stake !!!


An interesting thought. Putin and Trump required that Amazon and Staples market the software and that PCMagazine review it well.

 

Strange bedfellows - - - or strange imagining.


Neither rk.... just a "strange thought"!


That is confusing.

Nope .... It was quite DIRECT!

 

What connection do you see between the software marketed by major outlets (the topic) and Putin and Trump??

None ..... And never said there was!

 

So that's just another straw man argument you initiated rk!

 

 


 

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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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TxGrandpa2 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

So you actually think that you are more knowledgeable about anti viruses and such than most people here?


No but from many of the posts here probably more than some.  And what about you?


Actually, I have learned a heck of a lot from my brother who is a Director for one of the largest computer firms in America. My work partner's son got his masters in computer security and I've learned much from him also.

 

I see no sense in using a Russian anti-virus when I can use one made in the USA that is just as good (but then I have always been big on using American made anything that I can). I have had no problems with viruses or any kind of spy ware. My computer has remained secure for years.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: What Kind of American uses Russian Anti-virus Software

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rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

 


Naw .... The Russians are already here Tex ..... as evidenced by their interference in the recent presidential election enabling Trump to win!


Are you saying that Kaspersky home computer software effected our elections??

Nope ... But you're fallaciously implying that I did!

 

The topic is the software, you posted something about the the elections. It is the denial that is falicious. So, do you have anything to say about the topic?? Or will you continue the pattern of only posting about other posters?

OR .... the poster I questioned could simply answer the question that was posed to him instead of continuing to evade it with superfluous fallacious verbiage!