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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

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KidBoy2 wrote:
Jim posted..

Also remember it takes two people to start a fight. Both must be willing and one has to throw the first punch. He that threw the first punch broke the law and should be prosecuted. That is the job for law enforcement, not a bunch of old people on the internet.

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That is something many on the left are not seeing...or do not want to see...or there (sic) hate for Trump they have lost their ability to face the truth.

So in their hate they take their hate out on others with their name calling.

So no one has the right to condemn the actions of a person running the vehicle into a crowd on purpose, killing one and injuring many others, except for "law enforcement"?  Really?? Keep ignoring me, but everyone else sees your post and my response and question. Doesn't paint a pretty picture.


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

Message 102 of 338 (109 Views)

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

jimc91 wrote:

 

Our Constitution is a very unique and important document that provides freedom and rights for all Americans.

 

Thank God we are not a fascist run country!

 

Enjoy your freedom today, thank the founding fathers for their keen insight.

 

Also remember it takes two people to start a fight.  Both must be willing and one has to throw the first punch.  He that threw the first punch broke the law and should be prosecuted.  That is the job for law enforcement, not a bunch of old people on the internet.

 

 


Well said Jim.  Constitutionally we should be obligated to support those groups right to rally and demonstrate peacefully.  Just because we support their right to even exist doesn't mean that we approve of their philosophy.  That anyone supporting their constitutional rights has been misused very frequently in these discussions.

 


"Group speak" ????  So you really think that the KKK showed up with weapons, shields, and other fighting paraphernalia to have a "peaceful demonstration"? Allowing a white supremacist/nationalist bigoted, racist hate group like the KKK to thrive in America is simply wrong. Defending them in any way is simply wrong.

 

Do you support the white supremacist nationalist actions and agenda of the KKK?

 


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

Message 103 of 338 (116 Views)

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 

Another question is why didn't the Obama administration break up the KKK and NAZI people during his 8 years in office?  The reason is that the Constitution grants them a right to exist unless they are detrimental to good order.

 

Of course in fascist countries the government would have anniliated these groups long ago.


This has nothing to do with Obama. The White supremacist KKK enticed violence, preaching their hate rhetoric and white supremacist 'make America white (oops, great) again' chants. A KKK supporter (or member?) used his vehicle to commit a murder, injuring many others.

 

Do you support the racist white supremacist nationalist actions and agenda of the KKK?


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

Message 104 of 338 (114 Views)

jimc91 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

Can/will anyone here state a logical a rational reason why most all trump supporters (regardless of Party affiliation, even 'Independent') will give a yes or no answer to the following simple question?

 

Do you support the White Supremacist/Nationalist actions and agenda of the KKK?


No...

 

I support First amendment rights for all Americans.

 

Do YOU support the First Amendment for ALL Americans?

 

I also support law and order.  Those that break our laws need to be held accountable.

 

 

 

 


So doesn't the KKK break laws by displaying weapons, carrying signs inciting violence, and shouting hate rhetoric promoting violence?  White supremacy has to go and should not be protected by anyone.

 

Do you support the White Supremacist Nationalist actions and agenda of the KKK?


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

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Message 105 of 338 (126 Views)

jimc91 wrote:

The intellectual dishonesty on display here from the left is astounding...  

 

The violence was on both sides and most normal Americans understand that.

 

Less than a year ago, on 9-15-2016, Jim posted this about the KKK:

 

I just don't understand your obsession with 1 very small fringe group.  What are you afraid of?

 

Well Jim, 3 dead, 35 injured.


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

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rk9152 wrote:

CriticalThinking wrote:

Sebastian Gorka is officially a deputy assistant to President Trump. He and several other White Nationalists (NAZIs) were hired by Donald Trump. Yet we have a group of dedicated Trump Lovers who support their hero 100% and never criticize the man. 

 

Therefore, one can imply by their complete support of Trump, they believe in and/or condone the policies of White Nationalists (NAZIs). Is there any other conclusion we can come to?

Three come to mind - 1) President Trump is not a Nazi, 2) President Trump does not have Nazis on his staff, 3) his supporters are not Nazis.

 

 



But he is still a big liar, isn't he? NOW he brings up the Barcelona pig blood on bullets myth again, like in his lie filled campaign:

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-resurrects-bloody-war-myth-wake-barcelona-attack-n...

Most have had it with trump, 40% support his impeachment. I wonder how many hang on to supporting him because they support the Racist White Supremacy that the KKK's agenda is all about. After all, the KKK wants to help trump 'make America white (oops), er uh, great again'.


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

Message 107 of 338 (106 Views)

Rk, 

 

my spidey sense just just went off is this the image your hinting at of both sides.

 

Supposedly of an antifa beating upon a cop in Charlottesville or is it another.

 

This one is fake and proven fake like, who is that guy that calls everything fake.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/ap-fact-check-viral-photo-doesnt-show-antifa-beating...

 

Froze

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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

Message 108 of 338 (100 Views)

jimc91 wrote:

The intellectual dishonesty on display here from the left is astounding...  

 

The violence was on both sides and most normal Americans understand that.

 

And most with an IQ over 60 understand once the protest had ended and the only injuries were minor, and the police had everything under control, one vile piece of trash got into his car and drove it into a crowd of innocent people, while a mob of his buddies were attacking a young black male walking to his car in a parking garage.

 

When this occurs in Europe, the President is quick to blame terrorism, in the US, he say's, some of them were good people.

 

Then we have the ones on the left that just want to continue to argue by accusing others of supporting despicable racist groups.  There's no argument, YOUR Alt-Right was there to "Unite The Right" with Nazi's and the KKK. It is what it is, some are just in denial.  Go ahead and prove to the normal Americans why the left should never be trusted to run our Republic until they cure their need to divide people into groups so they can continue the fight.  That is SICK!!!  No Jim, what is sick is uniting with these sick people.  YOUR people wanted to divide the whites from Jews and minorities.  Please pay attention to the facts and quit distorting the facts simply because they disgust you.


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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

Message 109 of 338 (112 Views)

BLOTUS lied - again - his credulous fool-owers believed him and are repeating it...

Have pity for Melania - she wakes up with a jerk every morning
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Re: Violence on ‘Many Sides’ in Charlottesville

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creppelrm wrote:

 

they did the same thing the U.S. did fighting Nazis in WWII.  Also what was done when the North defeated the South but the KKK still holds to Confederate values..  Fight it now or fight it later when it would be much worse.


And the antifas are following the model of the brownshirts. So, it appears that our President was right - both sides were wrong.