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Respected Social Butterfly
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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 21 of 117 (65 Views)

Olderscout66 wrote:

Notice how the RW lie that the woman was hitting people with a bottle has vanished, along with the claim they had this on video?



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This doesn't appear to be a bouquet of flowers in her hand:

 

http://www.snopes.com/antifa-protestor-punch-m80/

 

The photograph of Rosealma holding a glass bottle was taken by Stephen Lam of Reuters and has not been altered (other than the red circle). However, a close-up of the bottle appears to show that it’s empty:

bottle-pic.jpg

 

 

 

 

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 22 of 117 (67 Views)

Olderscout66 wrote:

Marx had a few good ideas when he wrote them 140 years ago, but only in the fetid mind of the neoRepublican do Progressives support Marxism. People who actually think about the subject realize that our Democracy has already eliminated virtually all the ills that Marx sought to correct and used very different means than Marx envisioned.

 

It's just an excuse to not discuss the issues that Republicans try and paint their opponents as "Marxist", exactly as the John Birch Society evaded actual debate by painting their opponents "Communist". This entire "Marxism = Progressivism" tripe is simply a rebottling of JBS drivil from the 1950's.


Well, if he had good ideas, why would the Progressive Movement not adopt them?

 

Throwing the JBS and Communists is an attempt at intentionally misleading. This is not about the Cold War - this is about political ideology. Take for example your desire for "From each...to each....", that is political ideology with nothing to do with the Cold War.

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

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Olderscout66 wrote:

Notice how the RW lie that the woman was hitting people with a bottle has vanished, along with the claim they had this on video? Now they justify the assault of the 98lb woman by the 230lb cryptonazi on the basis that nobody claimed it was a fair fight. Typical.

 

Progressive protesters know that they are likely to be attacked by neonazis supported by Republicans, so now they come prepared to defend themselves. I've yet to see a video of the Progressives initiating the violence, but more and more, they are fighting back.


You seem to be overlooking the fact that "Progressive" anarchist came to town to get scalps. That is not "fighting back".

 

But, hey, you got your meaningless "cryptonazi" in as well as your "neonazi". So, who cares about truth - right???

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

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Richva wrote:

Wow, do you really thing the Russians' influence over Trump has gotten that strong?


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Nice try, but you do know that I was speaking about liberals.   Your deflection was way off, but of course when one keeps doing so, they don't deserve a reply.  Have a nice day.

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 25 of 117 (64 Views)

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

Olderscout66 wrote:

Notice how the RW lie that the woman was hitting people with a bottle has vanished

 

 


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Of course the photo of her with a bottle on Snopes was no doubt photoshopped?  But of course the eye sees what it wants to see, and the mind believes what it wants to believe...  As far as a fair fight, why did that 98 lb woman go jumping into a fight on purpose intending to 'take some scalps'?

 

Sometimes posts here sound like the broadcasts from Radio Moscow back in the late 1940s.


Wow, do you really thing the Russians' influence over Trump has gotten that strong?

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 26 of 117 (62 Views)

Olderscout66 wrote:

Notice how the RW lie that the woman was hitting people with a bottle has vanished

 

 


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Of course the photo of her with a bottle on Snopes was no doubt photoshopped?  But of course the eye sees what it wants to see, and the mind believes what it wants to believe...  As far as a fair fight, why did that 98 lb woman go jumping into a fight on purpose intending to 'take some scalps'?

 

Sometimes posts here sound like the broadcasts from Radio Moscow back in the late 1940s.

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 27 of 117 (69 Views)

Marx had a few good ideas when he wrote them 140 years ago, but only in the fetid mind of the neoRepublican do Progressives support Marxism. People who actually think about the subject realize that our Democracy has already eliminated virtually all the ills that Marx sought to correct and used very different means than Marx envisioned.

 

It's just an excuse to not discuss the issues that Republicans try and paint their opponents as "Marxist", exactly as the John Birch Society evaded actual debate by painting their opponents "Communist". This entire "Marxism = Progressivism" tripe is simply a rebottling of JBS drivil from the 1950's.

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 28 of 117 (56 Views)

Notice how the RW lie that the woman was hitting people with a bottle has vanished, along with the claim they had this on video? Now they justify the assault of the 98lb woman by the 230lb cryptonazi on the basis that nobody claimed it was a fair fight. Typical.

 

Progressive protesters know that they are likely to be attacked by neonazis supported by Republicans, so now they come prepared to defend themselves. I've yet to see a video of the Progressives initiating the violence, but more and more, they are fighting back.

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

Message 29 of 117 (61 Views)

creppelrm wrote:

I saw the videos, and what I  saw was a 230 lb. known leader of a radical group of white supremacist beating a 98 lb. women.  Now you may call that a fair fight if you sympathise with white supremacist, but it wasn't .


I have not seen any claim of a "fair fight". Did you? 

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Re: UC-Berkely Attacks FREE SPEECH (again)

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ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

 

 

Aside - "your gal" is a bit below you. It's like the "your hero", "your idol" silliness that some insist on posting.


 


Oh, you mean like "your heroine" as used in your post that I quote below?

 

"Botton line, folks - your heroine went there with the specific intent of creating violence".


Exactly - that was sarcasm illustrating the nonsense of "your hero", "your idol", etc. Along the same line of the claim that posters "love" President Trump and "hated" President Obama.

 

Adults can agree and disagree without all the supposed emotional silliness.