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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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Centristsin2010 wrote:

"Conservative sanctimony" is indeed a right-wing value.


Yep, just like hypocrisy and lying.


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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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"Conservative sanctimony" is indeed a right-wing value.


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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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Pence used the NFL to star in a cheap, transparent political stunt. 

 

While US troops were being killed in Africa.

 

Not a word about those special forces soldiers from Trump or Pence?

 

Plenty to say about NFL players silent protests though.

 

You know it's all about respecting the troops and the flag.

 

 

 

 

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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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Trump has to keep pretending this is about the flag and not racial inequality or he may have to do something which angers his supporters in the KKK and Nazi party

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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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It’s not the cost of Pence’s trip that was galling. It was the preparation for it.

 

Sunday’s NFL game between the San Francisco 49ers and the Indianapolis Colts was scheduled to begin at 1 p.m. Eastern time. By 1:24 p.m., Vice President Pence’s official Twitter account had posted this.

 

That graphic — complete with the appropriate social media information — was the tail end of a thread of tweets that conveyed the same message. The thread began at 1:08 p.m., without a typo to be found.

 

This reinforces the obvious conclusion that Pence’s appearance at the game and his well-coordinated exit from it was staged. It was a Colts-Niners game — pitting his home-state team against the team from the liberal hotbed where the players’ protests over racial violence began.

 

Pence’s press pool was informed that, in essence, there probably wasn’t any reason for them to join him inside the stadium. Why get out of your press van when Pence would go in, take a quick patriotic picture, and leave?

 

As President Trump said on Twitter on Monday morning, Pence’s trip to Indianapolis for this game was long-planned. An event that necessitated some modicum of effort and expense, for one reason: to reinforce the divide at the center of the protests, a divide that overlaps almost completely with racial politics.

 

A lot of emphasis has been placed on the cost of the trip, for understandable reasons. CNN figured that the flight alone cost about $200,000 on net — $242,500 in flying time from Las Vegas (where Pence was holding an event in the wake of the massacre there last week) and back to Los Angeles (where he had a political event scheduled). An Air Force Two flight from Vegas to L.A. alone would have cost about $45,000, so: about $200,000.

 

A spokesman for the vice president told The Washington Post in a statement that this was actually a cost savings, because Pence would otherwise have flown to D.C. for the night instead of Indianapolis. “Instead,” the statement read, “he made a shorter trip to Indiana for a game that was on his schedule for several weeks.”

 

But CNN’s analysis excludes a lot of other costs, of course. As the Indianapolis Star reported, Pence’s appearance introduced another level of security for fans attending the game, prompting the Colts to encourage people to show up early to navigate that security. That extra security cost extra money — as did Pence’s travel from the airport to the stadium and back.

 

There’s a ripple through a city whenever a president or vice president visits: street closures, added security, added nuisances. The full costs of those visits are probably incalculable, because they have effects beyond the places directly affected. In this case, it’s worth remembering that the ripple was for the purpose of allowing Pence to spend less than an hour at the stadium so he could spend 30 minutes bragging about his principled stand on social media.

 

A few hours after Pence’s stage-managed hand-wringing on Twitter — the digital equivalent of the disappointed head-shake he perfected on the campaign trail — Trump took to his favorite social-media platform to address a different subject.

 

“Nobody could have done what I’ve done for Puerto Rico with so little appreciation,” Trump said. “So much work!”

 

It was an odd tweet for a lot of reasons, including that it framed Trump, once again, as one of the victims of the ongoing disaster on that island. But it also reminded Americans that, as Pence was saving us money by not flying all the way across the country, federal authorities on the island were scrambling to pour resources into fixing a problem that, to some extent, resulted from a lack of adequate planning from the government.

 

The time of the president and vice president are valuable, and what they do and where they go reflect the things that are important to them. You can always scrounge up more money; you can’t create more time. And Trump’s visit to Puerto Rico last week lasted only a few more hours than Pence’s trip to Indianapolis. Of the 520-odd cumulative days that Trump and Pence have been in power, one was spent traveling to Puerto Rico and one was spent going to Indianapolis. Time is spent in other ways, too: As we’ve noted before, the president has spent a lot more of his time tweeting about the NFL than he has the devastation of Hurricane Maria.

 

Pence’s flight to Indianapolis was planned for weeks; his social-media response ready to go with a graphic immediately after he left the stadium. It’s an impressive level of preparation for an administration, as it turns out, focused on goading the president’s base into anger at black athletes.

 

The trip wasn’t free, and the idea that it was a cost savings is ridiculous. But the really galling aspect of Pence’s jaunt was that it demonstrated the sort of issue on which the administration is deliberate about having its act together.

 

It’s not the cost of Pence’s trip that was galling. It was the preparation for it.


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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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trump and pence - crotch grabbing, lying, not particularly patriotic and NOT Constitution First Amendment Supporters - wanna be fascist autocrats - NOT supported by the majority of patriotic American Citizens.

 

Poll: Majority of adults disagree with Trump on firing athletes who kneel during anthem - Business I...

 

Poll: Majority disagrees with Trump on firing athletes who kneel during anthem | TheHill

 

The flag is a symbol of the real thing and NOT the real thing itself that may Constitutionally and Lawfully be trod upon, burned, excreted upon, and otherwise used as desired in Symbolic First Amendment Protected Free Speech Protests and Demonstrations... 

 

The anthem's music was written for a club dedicated to drinking and debauchery - the words were written by a lawyer who often fought court cases against the First Amendment - and persistently lost the vast majority of those cases.

 

"We the people" are what make up the nation - the people are the very essence of the United States of America.

 

Haven't heard any right wing liars making the bogus assertion that constitutionally and lawfully permitted protest by kneeling - is direct disrespect of "we the people"

 

Although, now that I've mentioned it, I expect to see a republican/conservative butt-person - maybe even the Liar-in-Chief - making a try at throwing it against the wall to see if it sticks... 

 

Question - do Constitutional First Amendment Free Speech Rights override trump's and pence's blatant lies that respect for the flag and anthem is more important than Constitutional First Amendment Free Speech Rights to symbolically protest the continuing and ongoing existence of institutionalized racism and bigotry in this nation?

 

Of course the fact that trump has always been a white supremacist and racist has nothing to do with it - just ask a trump-sucker...

 

 

Have pity for Melania - she wakes up with a jerk every morning
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Re: Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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Centristsin2010 wrote: Then, like a baby who wants to show a room of adults what’s in his diaper, Trump tweeted out that this was all his doing, hanging Pence out to dry. He wrote, “I asked @vp Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country.”.

ROTFLOL

 

However, seriously this IS distracting all of us when maybe we should be focusing on Trump's threats against North Korea.  

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So...........having said all that, Mike Pence is VPOTUS, hand picked by Donald John Trump, POTUS.  From all reports so far, VPOTUS was directed by POTUS prior to the event to do what he did.  I suppose it all fits............you know......the vp doing what he's told.  Doesn't make either of them look a whole lot like statesmen interested in 'preserving' our Nation, now does it?  Looks like a cynical, crass, orchestrated political ploy built around what was a virtual certainty.  

 

Just remember, IF or WHEN 'the donald' is no longer POTUS, Mikey comes up in the ranks.  IF somehow somebody gets to 'the donald's' while he still runs the operation, and Mikey somehow gets put out of the running, 'Pauly' gets the nod.  Sounds like an episode from 'The Sopranos' to me.  Only 'made men' get to play and only 'made men' win.  Me....I think we need another Eliot Ness.

But Wait!!!!  Maybe we already have one.

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Trump/Pence Fraud Against America

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Mike Pence’s NFL Walkout Was a Cheap, Transparent Stunt For which taxpayers picked up the tab.

 

Vice President John Nance Garner once said that being the vice president was “not worth a bucket of warm piss.” (Many know this quote as “bucket of warm spit.” It’s “piss”.) The current holder of that office, Mike Pence showed on Sunday that Garner, if alive, would owe an apology to piss buckets everywhere.

 

Pence used the NFL to star in a cheap, transparent political stunt. The narrative Pence tried—and failed—to sell was that he showed up at the Colts-49ers game in Indianapolis and then supposedly left in a huff after being shocked—SHOCKED!—at seeing the San Francisco 49ers kneel. After assumedly taking a whiff of his personal smelling salts, he immediately released a statement that magically was already prepared, which read in part, “I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.”

 

Forget for a moment that this is a vice president who fronts for a Commander-in-Chief that mocked a POW and insulted the family of a slain solider, yet blathers about “disrespect.” Forget that he just used “soldiers, Flag, and National Anthem” for his own form of protest (irony!). Forget even his bizarre capitalization of “Flag.”

 

It’s not what happened. It’s how it happened. This was staged: a taxpayer subsidized stunt aimed at attacking dissenting black athletes. It was revealed in record time to be yet another toxic effort by this administration to divide people along racial lines and distract us from a train wreck of an administration, described by Senator Bob Corker as “an adult day care center” that looks after a big orange baby.

The first sign that Pence’s scurrying-off was staged: these were the San Francisco 49ers that the Colts were playing. The 49ers have been protesting racism during the anthem for over a year. Led by safety Eric Reid, the first player to kneel with Colin Kaepernick over a year ago, the 49ers are the team you’d pick if you wanted to fake outrage about someone peacefully protesting police brutality. Peter Alexander of NBC News tweeted almost immediately, “Reporters [accompanying Pence] were told to stay in van bc ‘there may be an early departure from the game.’” In other words, in advance of the anthem, Pence was planning to show up and then leave.

 

Then the veep’s own publicly available schedule tripped him up. That morning, his team let it be known that Pence would be at a California fundraiser by 6:30pm. The plane was gassed up and ready to go. Pence actually flew from Nevada to Indianapolis to go to a game for five minutes only to fly back to the West Coast. As Sports Illustrated‘s Peter King tweeted, “@VP took a taxpayer-funded airplane knowing he’d be walking out right after the anthem to protest. Swell use of our tax dollars.”

 

When you factor in the secret service, the diverting of law enforcement, as well as the clearing air and road traffic to get him in and out, this was at least a six figure authoritarian stunt.

 

Just to add an even thicker lacquer of incompetence, Pence tweeted out a photo of himself from the game; yet as the Indianapolis Star quickly noted, the photo was from 2014.

Then, like a baby who wants to show a room of adults what’s in his diaper, Trump tweeted out that this was all his doing, hanging Pence out to dry. He wrote, “I asked @vp Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country.”

 

This was amateur hour fraud. It was Gulf of Tonkin for idiots: a ham handed effort to isolate people brave enough to dissent in the face of the most powerful people in the world and raise issues of racism that this administration is too craven to discuss. It’s also very disturbing. The very week Sarah Huckabee Sanders spoke about Trump’s “respect for the 1st Amendment,” we had a staged spectacle with the highest levels of government attempting to intimidate and coerce people to not exercise those rights. It’s disgusting and another example of Pence’s degradation, his Faustian bargain with this administration. If  Mike Pence thinks he can deodorize Trump with a fraudulent photo-op, he should know that even the contents of John Nance Garner’s bucket gives off less of a stench.

 

Mike Pence’s NFL Walkout Was a Cheap, Transparent Stunt For which taxpayers picked up the tab.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.