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Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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rker321 wrote:

Richva wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


Which issues, which individual and which monarcy?


Rich, are we still trying to debunk the words of a poster? like I have stated. til the end of creation and there will never be a change of mind regarding this argument.  We have now over 300+ post and and almost the same amount of views on this thread. Unless, now we can all sit down and drink some coffee and simply ignore other more pressing subjects. Sorry Rich, but this thread is really getting boring. perhaps you can meet in private with RK and continue this conversation.


Since you chose to put your one cent in, do you have any idea what Umbarch meant? If so, please help Rich and I understand. If not - what was the point of this post?

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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Richva wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


Which issues, which individual and which monarcy?


You'll have to ask Umbarch. I have been trying to get the same answers with no success.

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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rker321 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:


That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


I believe that no progressive would actually believe in putting their trust in a monarchy, unless  of course, you are equating monarchy = Federal government, which is as false as any statement can be. But of course, "what's new" in the minds of the very conservative individuals.


I have no idea what you are talking about. This thread started with someone who seemed to be equating a monarch with the "individual".

 

Does that last sentence in some way relate to the thread or did it just satisfy a need to insult those with whom you disagree?

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Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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Rker-The proverbial slamming one's head into a wall repeatedly

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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With all due respect Scout, how many times are we going to post rational posts regarding this issue, simply have to go back and do it all over again? 

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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rk9152 wrote:

Richva wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

Do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy - or are you just playing games?


It would appear we are playing games. No Progressive is a Marxist. They have diametrically opposite viewpoints but the Conservatives keep trying to make the connection. it is almost as if they have no other value to add to the discussion.  Could it be?


That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


Your argument has nothing to do with "trusting the individual" and everything to do with "enslaving the individual" because the individual cannot protect himself from the predation that is the hallmark of unregulated Capitalism.

 

NO Progressive has ever supported Monarchy as a desirable form of Government. Only those on the far Right even suggest our Democracy is a Monarchy, and they only make that assertion when there's a Democrat in the White House.

 

The Regressive push to destroy Government and the ability of ordinary citizens to have a counter to the power of the Corporate State is becoming a tad threadbare as more and more people come to realize the absence of Government in the affairs of business is the reason they are making less than their parents did in the 1960's and paying a great deal more in "hidden taxes" - fees for all those things that once were free like driving on highways, their kids school books, student activities, local services clean streets and  trash pick-up, the water they drink (think Detroit) and the safety of the food they eat.

 

When and where exactly have you EVER seen a Progressive/liberal support Monarchy? Just another hyperbolic evasion of the issues.

Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: The Progressive Movement

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Richva wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


Which issues, which individual and which monarcy?


Rich, are we still trying to debunk the words of a poster? like I have stated. til the end of creation and there will never be a change of mind regarding this argument.  We have now over 300+ post and and almost the same amount of views on this thread. Unless, now we can all sit down and drink some coffee and simply ignore other more pressing subjects. Sorry Rich, but this thread is really getting boring. perhaps you can meet in private with RK and continue this conversation.

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Re: The Progressive Movement

Message 68 of 396 (384 Views)

rk9152 wrote:

That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


Which issues, which individual and which monarcy?

Valued Social Butterfly
Posts: 22,282
Registered: ‎03-04-2009

Re: The Progressive Movement

Message 69 of 396 (382 Views)

rk9152 wrote:


That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?


I believe that no progressive would actually believe in putting their trust in a monarchy, unless  of course, you are equating monarchy = Federal government, which is as false as any statement can be. But of course, "what's new" in the minds of the very conservative individuals.

Valued Social Butterfly
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Registered: ‎02-21-2014

Re: The Progressive Movement

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Richva wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

Do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy - or are you just playing games?


It would appear we are playing games. No Progressive is a Marxist. They have diametrically opposite viewpoints but the Conservatives keep trying to make the connection. it is almost as if they have no other value to add to the discussion.  Could it be?


That has nothing to do with the words you were theoretically responding to. So, again, do you really not see the difference between trust in the individual and placing everything in the hands of a monarchy?