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Re: The Dossier

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To whom it may concern:  Miseeker:   Please report RK to moderators - as the statements being made about you are both derogatory and a personal attack.    But then when they have no viable debate point, because most of us here have taken the time to read the 300page transcript.    Is it desperation? 

 

I sure got a good chuckle when donald's personal lawyer did what he always does - launches an legal attack that will go no where.   It must be really tough to be a lawyer for Donald, when his threats are met with laughter.   

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Re: The Dossier

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rk9152 wrote:

CriticalThinking wrote:

Afisher and Centrist, what you described is the key to the problem. Members of the Trump Cult live in an alternate reality, where truth is fiction and fiction becomes the truth. They have no interest in doing indpendent research or finding out the truth. 

 

They prefer being told what and how to think by Fox and other right wing propaganda sources. If you come up with FACTS, they will completely ignore them.


Since af, cent and now you are all reticent of actually discuss this important information, I guess this, like most, will deteriorate to the left wing swamp of "Let's talk about Fox etal".


afisher wrote:

1.   Apparently some have yet to bother to read any of the "Dossier" interview/ testimony that was posted for anyone really interested in learning about facts not Republican spin on Focus GPS on Tuesday.    

2.   Some here really need to learn how a calendar works - because they are essentially denying that it is a useful tool in developing a time line.  

 

 

rk, you really should read the testimony of Fusion before you continue making a fool of yourself. you yourself in this thread stated in a quote..the dossier was not the main catalyst for the FISA warrant, and here you are back to claiming it was. Really man..there is a reason people ( me too) devolve to insult. TOS wont let us what your statements are full of. You are denying something there is proof of in another post. Read something besides alt right, wath something besides Fox and Richard Spencer.

So it begins.
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Re: The Dossier

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MIseker wrote:

Centristsin2010 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

Centristsin2010 wrote:

Two plus weeks ago, a Conservative who embraces the conspiracy theory that the government used the DNC paid for dossier to obtain FISA warrants on the trump campaign, posted a topic about the dossier.  His thesis read as follows:

 

The Clinton campaign, the DNC, and the FBI were involved in getting the Fusion GPS "dossier" that was used by the Obama Administration to get FISA approval to spy on political opponents.

 

It has been said by posters that 70% of it is "true". Yet, no one seems to know exactly what is true. 

 

Anyone care to contribute to the "true" claim?

 

Day after day we continue to understand just how bogus this conspiracy theory truly is.  The poster too left out much information in his post conveniently omitting the FACT that Republicans initiated the dossier, including direction and payment to Fusion GPS.

 

In addition, they claimed it was the dossier that initiated the FISA warrants, yet today we learn the FBI was already aware of the contacts with Russia as Popodopolous was already boasting to the Australian government about working with Russians.

 

Bye-bye Conservative conspiracy theories.  The FBI already knew, well before Steele notified them of the illegal trump campaign contacts with Russia.  What will the come up with next???  More lies; more conspiracy theories for sure.


About the FISA warrent (from the Wash. Post) - But it's worth emphasizing that the Times called it merely “a catalyst” and not “the catalyst.”

 

It appears that the opposition research STARTED BY REPUBLICANS and handed to the DNC and Clinton campaign after trump was nominated, was used by the FBI.  (it's obvious your intellectually dishonest statement needed to be modified....you know, FACTS!)

 

So, why don't we just accept that as a fact rather than a conspiracy theory or lies?  Why?  So YOU feel better?  It's a FACT the FBI was already aware of the trump campaign contacts with Russia prior to hearing from Steele.  Can we accept that as FACT?  Were you wrong when you claimed the dossier was THE reason for the FISA warrants?


no he wont admit it. Trump supporters are more blind than Bush sopporters were. 


no he won't. instead he just posts the factual material that makes his point.

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Re: The Dossier

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For those interested in reading the transcript of Glenn Simpson's (Fusion GPS) testimony before the Senate you can find it here:

 

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/3/9/3974a291-ddbe-4525-9ed1-22bab43c05ae/934A35...

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Re: The Dossier

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Has the dossier been disproved and, if so, how?  The basic premise was that the Russians were using a hooker filled trip to Moscow as blackmail material. We now know the FBI "collusion" investigation started because of Papadopolas getting drunk with an Australian.  However, based on Trump's documented antics in Wolff's book, it is now completely possible that Trump did all the things mentioned in the dossier. 

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Re: The Dossier

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Centristsin2010 wrote:

MIseker wrote:

so, its gone from NO COLLUSION to NO COLLUSION THAT EFFECTED THE OUTCOME. my my. the worm trail from position to position is obvious. You did the same on your other post about what wapo says. Was your last gig at a dementia ward? most of us arent there yet. and of course you dont know what that even means.

 

Just one of the games the forum's TROLL play's here, MIseker.  Certainly he doesn't expect others to follow the bouncing ball. 


 Another example of a favorite game of our leftward leaning posters, "If we all repeat the same ...... "untruth" (is that O.K. cent?) ........ that will make it true". 

 

"And we'll all swap kudoes just to make it official".


 

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Re: The Dossier

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MIseker wrote:


so, its gone from NO COLLUSION to NO COLLUSION THAT EFFECTED THE OUTCOME. my my. the worm trail from position to position is obvious. You did the same on your other post about what wapo says. Was your last gig at a dementia ward? most of us arent there yet. and of course you dont know what that even means.


no, it has always been "no proof of collusion" and "no claim by officials of any effect on the election outcomes".

 

and you lead the way down to the sewer of "the dementia ward" and what i don't even no.

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Re: The Dossier

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There you go again Cent. Copying the lie and proving a post to be an alt fact. but have heart..his defense will be more of the same. Kinda like his topic on the Alt Right.
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Re: The Dossier

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CriticalThinking wrote:

Afisher and Centrist, what you described is the key to the problem. Members of the Trump Cult live in an alternate reality, where truth is fiction and fiction becomes the truth. They have no interest in doing indpendent research or finding out the truth. 

 

They prefer being told what and how to think by Fox and other right wing propaganda sources. If you come up with FACTS, they will completely ignore them.


Since af, cent and now you are all reticent of actually discuss this important information, I guess this, like most, will deteriorate to the left wing swamp of "Let's talk about Fox etal".

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Re: The Dossier

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rk9152 wrote:

afisher wrote:

1.   Apparently some have yet to bother to read any of the "Dossier" interview/ testimony that was posted for anyone really interested in learning about facts not Republican spin on Focus GPS on Tuesday.    

2.   Some here really need to learn how a calendar works - because they are essentially denying that it is a useful tool in developing a time line.  


Apparently we have some here that would like to suggest that they have some useful information but would prefer to be vague and general resorting instead to the more common discussion technique of the left - insult.


You claim to know what the DNC contract with Fusion GPS said.  Let's see the contract.  Oh, you don't have it?  Of course not!  Just more "rk" lies.....


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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